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Good document on the DR4018 Switching Decoder

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I think that this is the new DR4018 manual that was released on the Digikeijs website a few weeks ago?

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Hello,

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File: 20933457-07f432-DR4018_V1.2.pdf

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Good document on the DR4018 Switching Decoder

You can access this file at the URL:
/g/Digikeijs/files/Digikeijs%20Products/DR4018,%20DR4101,%20DR4102%20and%20DR4103%20Switch%20Decoders/20933457-07f432-DR4018_V1.2.pdf

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Edited

No, this is an earlier version (V1.2) dated? 05-02-2012.? It has some information not in the most current version Dated 12-23-2018)

There is some of the programming steps not found in the current version.

Also the note about when you program the DR4018 you might have to reprogram the ID for the DR4018 again.

I have seen this problem and wondered if it was something I was doing, now know it might have to be done again.


 

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There may a problem then as the one on the Digikeijs website (modified 08/04/2019 but dated 23/12/18) has more information contained within it that the one you have uploaded.

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You actually need to refer to both to get all the information

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Subject: Re: [Digikeijs], JMRI, Rocrail, Itrain, Walthers, Tortise, Cobalt, Switch Machine, Roco, Throttle New file uploaded to [email protected]

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No, this is an earlier version (V1.2) dated? 05-02-2012.? It has some information not in the most current version Dated 12-23-2018)

There is some of the programming steps not found in the current version.

Also the note about when you program the DR4018 you might have to reprogram the ID for the DR40218 again.

I have seen this problem and wondered if it was something I was doing, now know it might have to be done again.


 

Reading this topic and the implication that you need to read both a new and old data sheets for the DR4018 is this also true for other products?
If so, where does one find older datasheets on the website?

Colin


 

On 17/04/2019 13:48, Iain Morrison wrote:
There may a problem then as the one on the Digikeijs website (modified 08/04/2019 but dated 23/12/18) has more information contained within it that the one you have uploaded.
You actually need to refer to both to get all the information
Does anyone find the DR4018 hasn't the oomph to switch Peco PL-11 side-mounted turnout motors?

If so, can anything be done to improve this, such as lengthening the duration of the switch pulse?

--
Chris


 

Hi Chris,

Have you adjusted the position of the motors? I have just fitted 14 pl11s to a couple of dr4018s and found that I had to move a few of them into or away from the points lever because the point wasn’t throwing properly, certainly got the oomph as you put it to throw them though, are the points switching freely by hand, may need to loosen track pins if that’s how you’ve stuck them down.

Hope this helps
Andy

On 17 Apr 2019, at 16:59, Chris Youlden <lists@...> wrote:

On 17/04/2019 13:48, Iain Morrison wrote:
There may a problem then as the one on the Digikeijs website (modified 08/04/2019 but dated 23/12/18) has more information contained within it that the one you have uploaded.
You actually need to refer to both to get all the information
Does anyone find the DR4018 hasn't the oomph to switch Peco PL-11 side-mounted turnout motors?

If so, can anything be done to improve this, such as lengthening the duration of the switch pulse?

--
Chris



 

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Also depends on the power supply you are using - if you are having issues might be worth putting a more powerful separate power supply into DR4018 rather than using DCC Bus

Iain Morrison
07767 456746
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From: [email protected] on behalf of andrew whitaker via Groups.Io <andy9202@...>
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To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Digikeijs], JMRI, Rocrail, Itrain, Walthers, Tortise, Cobalt, Switch Machine, Roco, Throttle New file uploaded to [email protected]
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Hi Chris,

Have you adjusted the position of the motors? I have just fitted 14 pl11s to a couple of dr4018s and found that I had to move a few of them into or away from the points lever because the point wasn’t throwing properly, certainly got the oomph as you put it to throw them though, are the points switching freely by hand, may need to loosen track pins if that’s how you’ve stuck them down.

Hope this helps
Andy
> On 17 Apr 2019, at 16:59, Chris Youlden <lists@...> wrote:
>
>> On 17/04/2019 13:48, Iain Morrison wrote:
>> There may a problem then as the one on the Digikeijs website (modified 08/04/2019 but dated 23/12/18) has more information contained within it that the one you have uploaded.
>> You actually need to refer to both to get all the information
> Does anyone find the DR4018 hasn't the oomph to switch Peco PL-11 side-mounted turnout motors?
>
> If so, can anything be done to improve this, such as lengthening the duration of the switch pulse?
>
> --
> Chris
>
>
>





 
Edited

Chris, your correct, I have the manual file now from Digikeijs and starting to correct and update the manual.? If anyone knows technical errors that need to be fixed let me know.

I am correcting some of the translations and omission right now.

Some should come along and help you with the setup for you Peco Plii's

Dennis


 

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Thanks for that, Andy. I have stuck them down but will reposition them. It helps to know they can be driven by the 4018s.

Many thanks
Chris



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From: "andrew whitaker via Groups.Io" <andy9202@...>
Date: 17/04/2019 17:27 (GMT+00:00)
Subject: Re: [Digikeijs], JMRI, Rocrail, Itrain, Walthers, Tortise, Cobalt, Switch Machine, Roco, Throttle New file uploaded to [email protected]

Hi Chris,

Have you adjusted the position of the motors? I have just fitted 14 pl11s to a couple of dr4018s and found that I had to move a few of them into or away from the points lever because the point wasn’t throwing properly, certainly got the oomph as you put it to throw them though, are the points switching freely by hand, may need to loosen track pins if that’s how you’ve stuck them down.

Hope this helps
Andy
> On 17 Apr 2019, at 16:59, Chris Youlden <lists@...> wrote:
>
>> On 17/04/2019 13:48, Iain Morrison wrote:
>> There may a problem then as the one on the Digikeijs website (modified 08/04/2019 but dated 23/12/18) has more information contained within it that the one you have uploaded.
>> You actually need to refer to both to get all the information
> Does anyone find the DR4018 hasn't the oomph to switch Peco PL-11 side-mounted turnout motors?
>
> If so, can anything be done to improve this, such as lengthening the duration of the switch pulse?
>
> --
> Chris
>
>
>





 

On 17/04/2019 17:27, andrew whitaker via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi Chris,
Have you adjusted the position of the motors? I have just fitted 14 pl11s to a couple of dr4018s and found that I had to move a few of them into or away from the points lever because the point wasn’t throwing properly, certainly got the oomph as you put it to throw them though, are the points switching freely by hand, may need to loosen track pins if that’s how you’ve stuck them down.
Hope this helps
Andy
Hi Andy

Just to report back that your advice has proved successful! The first PL11 was moved just enough to ease the control bar and it now works flawlessly. Investigation of the second PL11 showed something different - miswiring. Despite me knowing that the green wire is common, I had miswired which caused non-operation in one direction.

So many thanks for your help.

Meanwhile regarding Iain's suggestion - yes, I did in fact have this problem when I first installed the DR4018. It took only one command to drop the input volts below 9v, and then didn't recover.

I was using a power distribution board by Blocksignalling - PS4 - which is a very good way of feeding accessories - but each output is limited to 1 amp, not nearly enough for a 4018.

How does everyone else feed all the accessories - other than using the track? What's the favourite way of providing a number of 12v feeds from one supply?

Thanks for your comments.



--
Chris


 

Glad I could help

Andy

On 18 Apr 2019, at 17:52, Chris Youlden <lists@...> wrote:

On 17/04/2019 17:27, andrew whitaker via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi Chris,
Have you adjusted the position of the motors? I have just fitted 14 pl11s to a couple of dr4018s and found that I had to move a few of them into or away from the points lever because the point wasn’t throwing properly, certainly got the oomph as you put it to throw them though, are the points switching freely by hand, may need to loosen track pins if that’s how you’ve stuck them down.
Hope this helps
Andy
Hi Andy

Just to report back that your advice has proved successful! The first PL11 was moved just enough to ease the control bar and it now works flawlessly. Investigation of the second PL11 showed something different - miswiring. Despite me knowing that the green wire is common, I had miswired which caused non-operation in one direction.

So many thanks for your help.

Meanwhile regarding Iain's suggestion - yes, I did in fact have this problem when I first installed the DR4018. It took only one command to drop the input volts below 9v, and then didn't recover.

I was using a power distribution board by Blocksignalling - PS4 - which is a very good way of feeding accessories - but each output is limited to 1 amp, not nearly enough for a 4018.

How does everyone else feed all the accessories - other than using the track? What's the favourite way of providing a number of 12v feeds from one supply?

Thanks for your comments.



--
Chris



 

How does everyone else feed all the accessories - other than using the track? What's the favourite way of providing a number of 12v feeds from one supply?

Thanks for your comments.
I don't connect any accessory decoders to track power. If DCC is needed I use a separate bus fed from a dedicated booster or before the circuit breaker of a track feeding booster. If 12v d.c. I use a commercial power supply (though have built my own in the past). If 16v a.c. a separate transformer.

Mike Ruby