My prodigy advance has locomotive, route, and accessory functions.? I have a Dr4018 that I am controlling my atlas smap switches.? Honestly 4 years after I set up I could not tell yyou how I did it.? I think I just connected and the unit was preset to control this.? Anyway here is the real question.? I want to set up the next 3 paired outputs (5-10) for controlling lights on the display.? First question is can outputs 1-4 control a snap switch while 5-10 is set up for on off of lights.? I can not figure out how to change outputs to have differing output types.? The next question might be an MRC question but how do I change the output to be controlled off of accessory and pick the accessory number.? For example I would like accessory 1 to control 5-6, accessory 2 to control 7-8, and accessory 3 to control 9-10.

Thanks for asking this question. I, too, have asked this question in the past. I received replies but I am still left without a clear understanding of setting the CVs appropriately to have certain outputs control turnouts and others to control lights. Hoping somebody can provide an answer that can be applied universally.

... and to answer your 1st question... yes, I know it can be done, I'm just not clear on the approach to setting the CVs appropriately. There are YouTube videos on this topic but they all leave me confused. I believe there is a chart somewhere but I don't know where to find it. Perhaps a chart that is filled-out for different scenarios would help. In other words a chart that shows the CV values for Outputs 1-8 for turnouts and Outputs 9-16 for lights then another chart that shows the CV values for Outputs 1-8 for lights and Outputs 9-16 for turnouts.

I agree 100%. ?It seems clear that you can do it, but a simple chart would be helpful. ?Honestly it would be great if there were one cv number for each or pair of outputs where you could control function.

You have to change the CV values for the output number/position.

You can use the Pre-Set and then modify the individual output positions.

?CV?? Output?? Total
113? ? ? ? ? 1??? ? ?
114?? ? ? ?? 2??? ? ?
115????????? 3??? ? ?
116????????? 4??? ? ?
117????????? 5??? ? ?
118????????? 6??? ? ?
119????????? 7??? ? ?
120????????? 8??? ? ?
121????????? 9??? ? ?
122??????? 10??? ? ?
124??????? 12??? ? ?
125??????? 13??? ? ?
126??????? 14??? ? ?
127??????? 15??? ? ?
128??????? 16??? ? ?

Ok, I think that makes sense.? The pre-set will give a pulse to operate the switch and that is why I had so little trouble setting up?? If I assign a value I will change the light with the effect as calculated?? I am being a little dense here, so I will need to go back to the manual to figure out how to calculate the value to get what I want.? Initially I want to control output 5 & 6 to be constant on and maximum intensity.? Any thoughts with your experience as to what I program 117 and 118?

So if I understand right changing CV117 to 15 would make this one constant on at highest intensity.? If I wanted it to flash (bit 5) at maximum intensity, I would program CV117 to 47 (15+32)?

Again, sorry so thick here.? most of my programming has been on simple locomotive decoders that are far less complex and versatile.

Yes, if those are the options you want. Here's what you are doing.

These are the physical dip switch that set options initially. We would flip the switches.
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What have gone to the digital form of setting options by giving a software/firmware values in place on the dip switches.

When you set the value to 1 it turns that option on.




So if you were to slide Bit 5 to the on position it would add 32 to the value.
Sliding Bit 7 to the Off position would subtract 128 and remove the Pulse Option.

Your value would be 1+2+4+8+32 = 47


Inobu

wow, way cool.......thank you for the info.

Ok thank you all for the replies but new issue, same question.? I followed the instruction implicitly.? I even found a video on the subject and walked through the exact procedure.? The procedure was to keep paired outputs 1-10 to be snap switches, which seems to be the factory setting.? The outputs 11-16 to be turned to constant on and off lights.? So to do this I had to change each of the function CV's for 11-16 to 15 as discussed, then to change the function mapping of output 11-16 to function 6-11.? No joy on this all.? each time I do it, the mapping of the unit to start with function 1 gets dropped, and it does not control the lights as I expected.? I use a MRC prodigy advance which basically has both accessory commands and function commands with the locomotive setting (9999).? Once I reprogram the functions do I need to be using the functions like this unit was a locomotive.? I can control accessories and routes, while running a locomotive, without switching locomotive to 9999, but for my re-mapped outputs do I need to change my Locomotive 9999 and use the locomotive function keys?

Using 9999 is just a means to program and configure the DR4018. This gives you the ability to write to the DR4018 via a throttle device. Using 9999 is the address used
to formulate the programming packet. With the DR4018 in programming mode it will open the message packet and carry out the programming instructions.

Accessories controls are basically Switch commands be it Closed or Thrown. It is the Switch Address that you programmed into the DR4018 that will
actuate the relay connected to the switch or light.

So you will access the Accessory Button, enter the switch number a either throw or close the device/relay.

Inobu

That was my original assumption, and I guess I was grasping.? Watching the following video:??

I thought would put me on the right track combined with data you provided me on earlier on in the string.? ?
I followed the video implicitly relating to the function mapping.? I even tried to change the outputs without changing the function mapping.? Basically, changing the output CV and using accessory 11 to control accessory 11.? I am thinking I am missing something in the sequence to program off of the prodigy advance.?

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One other thing.? If I understand your first comment correctly I should be able to change the output 11 to constant on and off by changing the associated CV to 15.? Then It should function on ACC 11 without re-mapping.? So to test this out, I can re-set to factory settings to erase all of the changes I might have made, set CV47 to a value of "0", then set CV 123 to a value of 15.? If I understand it right this will change output 11 to on off.? This will leave output 11 mapped to accessory 11,

will do.? from my end, I have changed so many things I think I need to start with a return to factory settings and then give it another try.

Above is another video I watched to understand the programming sequence, ie; using 9999 and the programing button.? The Guagemaster Prodigy looks like it is a pre-cursor to the MRC Prodigy Advance.? They appear to function identically.

I have never tried just changing Light 11 only.

You have to program Light 11 on both sides.
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Quick update to this topic.? Owner/Moderator really hooked me up on the knowledge.? Thanks everyone else as well for the contribution.? It has all contributed to a better understanding of my equipment and programming.? This is what we found.? For some reason we could POM the MRC Prodigy Advance to set CV47 to "0" as well as take the DR4018 back to factory Settings also on the Main, but when it came to the finite programing to set the individual outputs and to map the functions, those simply refused to POM with the MRC Prodigy Advance.? We decided to try do the programming previously discussed on the Programing Track.? Everything worked exactly as it should, and using the Programming Track turned out to be way easier than I thought it would be.? I did have to use the special instructions for programming the DR4018 when the controller does not provide power on the programming circuit, but the instructions were super easy.

The takeaway on using the programming track, it was supper easy and did not ahve to worry about the unit timing out of the programming function, as it seems to do while Programming on the Main.