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Re: I-M253 in Scotland

 

I note the absence on Z2535 or equivalent on , which one of my cousins claimed was"proficient" in Scotland and posted several YouTube vids re this, have conferred with Dr. Bruce Durie, sennachie of his clan Chief, BSc (Hons) PhD OMLJ FIGRS, Consultant Genealogist and Heraldist, Author, Broadcaster, Lecturer, and I asked him if there was any evidence of concentration of I-Z2535 (or precursors or downstreams) in Scotland, and he was kind enough to examine our Slaton project results and respond, and his opinion is basically the same as that promulgated by Ken Nordtvedt: more Anglo-Saxon than anything else.

Clinton Slayton (A1890>A11041>F1997>FT26183 >A11035 >A11036+)


I-M253 in Scotland

 

Vince,
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Wondering what you think of this graph on I-M253 branches in Scotland.
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Maybe we can get involved in the project.
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Aaron


Twigstat

 

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I’m curious to hear if anyone has learned if anyone, any company, is beginning to use?Twigstat?to build out, aka enhance, family trees for the public. ?Twigstat was recently written about in an article in Nature (#637) January 1. Twigstat is an open source method written in C++ and R.

Twigstat has intrigued me because I am one of the old guys that used to work with Ken Nordtvedt, snp by snp, trying to figure out if I had some Viking in me. The article in Nature says that Twigstat was used to trace the movements of Northern Europeans from AD 1 to AD 1000, My paper trail only goes back to Scotland circa 1680. ?If only there was a way to skip back 1500 years.

Genetic genealogy speaking, the future of family trees may be just around the corner. Hopefully I might be around to see it.

Jim Robeson,?

I1a-M253 > DF29 > CTS6364 > S4795 > S4767 > S4770 > Y13495/Y13016 > Y29634/S4774?> A13294 > FTA86767

Mito-H1e1a3


Re: M253 > DF29 > Z58 > A5716 > A5726 > A5734 > BY152625 > BY155598

 

I have done my entire genome. Will see if I can get the data.


Re: M253 > DF29 > Z58 > A5716 > A5726 > A5734 > BY152625 > BY155598

 

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Aaron, ?thanks for joining the I-A5716 project! You fit right in.

It’d be nice to have a Hill upgrade to Big Y at some point, but there’s no doubt which part of the I-A5716 tree they belong to.

Vincent Vizachero
sent from my iPhone

On Nov 20, 2024, at 5:20?PM, Aaron Hill via groups.io <hillaj@...> wrote:

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I meant that I am the founder of the haplogroup I1 project at FTDNA. I will join your subgroup. I cannot remember precisely where these matches came from. I think it was the Johnson/Johnston/Johnstone project at FTDNA.


Re: M253 > DF29 > Z58 > A5716 > A5726 > A5734 > BY152625 > BY155598

 

I meant that I am the founder of the haplogroup I1 project at FTDNA. I will join your subgroup. I cannot remember precisely where these matches came from. I think it was the Johnson/Johnston/Johnstone project at FTDNA.


Re: M253 > DF29 > Z58 > A5716 > A5726 > A5734 > BY152625 > BY155598

 

I am the founder of that group at FTDNA, but have not been involved for years. Thanks for your note. That progression is from the site I cited.
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Aaron


Re: M253 > DF29 > Z58 > A5716 > A5726 > A5734 > BY152625 > BY155598

 

Aaron,?

I'm not sure of your interest in this haplogroup, but we now know that I-A5716 is not downstream of I-Z58.

Instead it is directly downstream of I-DF29.

If you manage a kit that is either confirmed A5716+ or A5734+ or matches kits who have a haplogroup like this, please join our haplogroup project at
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Vince Vizachero


Re: M253 > DF29 > Z58 > A5716 > A5726 > A5734 > BY152625 > BY155598

 

An updated map for M253 > DF29 > Z58 > A5716 > A5726 > A5734 > BY152625 > BY155598 via :


Any updates?

 

I was active in this group about 8 years ago but got into other things? What did I miss?


Re: Ken Nordtvedt

 

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That is what I used. Look at the first link.

Aaron


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use Wayback Machine

On Sat, Feb 20, 2021 at 1:54 PM Aaron Hill <hillaj@...> wrote:

I have looked for archived copies of Ken's site, which is now offline, but without much success. Anyone know of people who have saved material from his old site? I am particularly interested in this document,?.




Re: Ken Nordtvedt

 

use Wayback Machine


On Sat, Feb 20, 2021 at 1:54 PM Aaron Hill <hillaj@...> wrote:
I have looked for archived copies of Ken's site, which is now offline, but without much success. Anyone know of people who have saved material from his old site? I am particularly interested in this document,?.





Aaron


Re: Ken Nordtvedt

 

Tons of Ken's file's listed here
https://onedrive.live.com/?authkey=%21AG9vK41G%2DOOujfQ&id=8B35ADFFC37790D0%2189654&cid=8B35ADFFC37790D0


Terminal Haplogroup

 

Keep your eyes on FTDNA… They just gave me a new Terminal Haplogroup! The YFull tree hasn’t caught up yet. The Big Y test was worth it, for sure.

Jim Robeson,

I1a-M253 > DF29 > CTS6364 > S4795 > S4767 > S4770 > Y13495/Y13016 > Y29634/S4774 > A13294 > FTA86767

Mito-H1e1a


Re: Y DNA Haplogroup Comparisons

 

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The same can be done on FTDNA’s Y-DNA Haplotree. Their tree is in fact bigger than Y’full’s

Mats

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?mne: Re: [Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I] Y DNA Haplogroup Comparisons

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You most simple way is to use the "search on this page" function of your browser in the YFull tree.

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Best,

Hans

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Verzonden vanaf mijn Galaxy

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-------- Oorspronkelijk bericht --------

Van: Jim E Robeson <robeson.jim.e@...>

Datum: 21/06/21 05:18 (GMT+01:00)

Onderwerp: [Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I] Y DNA Haplogroup Comparisons

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Is there a way to compare one terminal haplogroup with another to determine if one is ancestral to the other?? Is there a web site to easily do the comparison ?

Jim Robeson,? I1a-M253 > DF29 > CTS6364 > S4795 > S4767 > S4770 > Y13495/Y13016 > Y29634/S4774 > A13294






Re: Y DNA Haplogroup Comparisons

 

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You most simple way is to use the "search on this page" function of your browser in the YFull tree.

Best,
Hans



Verzonden vanaf mijn Galaxy



-------- Oorspronkelijk bericht --------
Van: Jim E Robeson <robeson.jim.e@...>
Datum: 21/06/21 05:18 (GMT+01:00)
Onderwerp: [Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I] Y DNA Haplogroup Comparisons

Is there a way to compare one terminal haplogroup with another to determine if one is ancestral to the other?? Is there a web site to easily do the comparison ?

Jim Robeson,? I1a-M253 > DF29 > CTS6364 > S4795 > S4767 > S4770 > Y13495/Y13016 > Y29634/S4774 > A13294







Y DNA Haplogroup Comparisons

 

Is there a way to compare one terminal haplogroup with another to determine if one is ancestral to the other? Is there a web site to easily do the comparison ?

Jim Robeson, I1a-M253 > DF29 > CTS6364 > S4795 > S4767 > S4770 > Y13495/Y13016 > Y29634/S4774 > A13294


Re: M253+ > DF29+ > Z58+ > A5734?

 

There is some confusion about the placement of Z58. It is excluded on these maps, but I do think the following is accurate.

M253 > DF29 > Z58 > A5716 > A5726 > A5734 > BY152625 > BY155598
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M253 > DF29 > Z58 > A5716 > A5726 > A5734 > FT90664

-- Aaron


Re: M253+ > DF29+ > Z58+ > A5734?

 

I discovered two mutations on?, so I am updating the info here.

M253 > DF29 > A5716 > A5726 > A5734 > BY152625 > BY155598
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M253 > DF29 > A5716 > A5726 > A5734 > FT90664

-- Aaron


Re: I-Z58

 

I am not sure how accurate and relevant these designations are anymore, but here are my results:

Haplo-I Subclades and probabilities are as follows:
I-M253-T13 =>29%? I-M253-AS1H =>22%? I-M253-AS9a =>13%? I-M253-ND =>11%? I-M253-ASgen =>10%? I-M253-AS1 =>4%? I-L22-N =>4%? I-L22-Bothnia =>3%? I-M253-AS6 =>2%??