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Cheddar Man from a Y-dna perspective
Hi all, Great that we have a new list!
To fuel the fire and start some activity I post a link to my recent citizen science paper "Cheddar Man from a Y-dna perspective".
It think it will interest all those focussing on I2: https://www.academia.edu/people/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=cheddar+man Comments are welcome :-)
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Re: Cheddar Man from a Y-dna perspective
I am testing a link shortener to see if the link will be active, eliminating the need to copy and paste.
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There is also a direct link to the paper. Aaron On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 02:06 PM, Hans De Beule wrote: https://www.academia.edu/people/search?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=cheddar+man |
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Michael Sager of FTDNA at Genetic Genealogy Ireland Belfast
开云体育Michael Sager, the man behind FTDNA’s Y chromosome haplotree, will be talking about his work at Genetic Genealogy Ireland Belfast next month. You can read Michael’s profile here and get a taste of what he will be talking about: ? ? Debbie Kennett |
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Haplogroup I1 Ancient Samples Map
Since we have a first post on the list from Hans, then we can say the list is active. Thanks Hans! The map can be found here? |
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Z382-project at FTDNA
Over at the z382-project on FTDNA we are doing alot of work trying to map out?I-M253 > DF29 > Z58 > Z59 > Z2041 > Z2040 > Z382?including some custom made applications. Sometimes we expand our perspective to include clades upstream of ”ours”, in attempt to get a better picture, and here is an example of what the output can look like: ? |
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Historic Migration Patterns Are Written in Americans’ DNA
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Historic Migration Patterns Are Written in Americans’ DNA
“Studies of DNA from ancient human fossils have helped scientists to trace human migration routes around the world thousands of years ago. But can modern DNA tell us anything about more recent movements, especially in an ancestrally diverse melting pot
like the United States?”
“Understanding the genetic structure of the US is important because it helps illuminate distinctions between populations that studies might not otherwise account for. If we want genetic technologies to benefit everyone, we need to rethink our current approach
for genetic studies because at the moment, they typically miss a huge swath of American diversity.”
“Some findings caught the researchers by surprise. For instance, their analysis revealed a striking diversity in the geographic origins of participants who identified as Hispanic or Latino. The genetic patterns of these participants indicated a complex
mixture of European, African, and Native American ancestries that varied widely depending on where participants lived, whether they were in California, Texas or Florida, for example.”
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Re: Haplogroup I1 Ancient Samples Map
Thanks for this reference, Simon. I found two samples that match, at least to a degree, my own Y-haplogroup. Sample VK297 in Denmark is I1-Y4051, which is also my terminal SNP at present, and sample VK549 in Estonia is I1-P109, which is the SNP I was "stuck at" for so long, until I took the Big-Y test. There is also one sample which matches my mt-haplogroup.
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... Martin Potter On Thu, Jan 16, 2020 at 05:30 PM, Simon Hedley wrote:
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Re: I-Z58
Hi Aaron, ? ?There was a flurry of interest in Z58+ back when Ken Nordedt was involved.? Family Tree has a project but I don't know how active it is (). ?(The project name is "I1>Z63+ and I1>Z59+" but it appears to actually mean Z58+.) ?? By the way, I'm in Harris Group 4 and I tested positive for Z63 but negative for Z58.? Downstream SNP results: M21-, ?M227-, ??M253+, P109-, P259-, P30+, L22-, L338-, Z63+, Z131-, Z58-, L840+, DF29+, L1243-, L1237+, CTS7416-, L1439+ Best, Keith On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 11:44 PM Aaron Hill <hillaj@...> wrote: Just learned that one of my cousins is?I-Z58+. This is from the 23andMe database. I, unfortunately, tested years ago, long before this subclade was discovered. Anyone know of any resources for this group? |
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Re: Ken Nordtvedt
开云体育I found a page on Google Docs (?) Groups (?), headed by Bernie Cullen and Zdenko Markovic, but most Nordtvedt links failed, and even worse, I failed to bookmark it. They work in mainly I2 and most of my work is in I1, but I wish I had saved the link to provide here. ?Instead, I saved some files locally, but they were quite old and do not seem to pertain to your question. If I stumble on it again, I will post here. ? From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Aaron Hill
Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2021 4:54 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [Y-DNA-HAPLOGROUP-I] Ken Nordtvedt ? I have looked for archived copies of Ken's site, which is now offline, but without much success. Anyone know of people who have saved material from his old site? I am particularly interested in this document,?. |
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Re: Ken Nordtvedt
I don't have a file with that specific name, but found these two from a group thread. One by Ken and the other from Julie Frame Falk. Tree for I1 Z58+ Z60-.pdf
Tree for I1 Z58+ Z60-.pdf
JFF_ I1- Z63 et al.pdf
JFF_ I1- Z63 et al.pdf
JFF_ I1- Z58 et al.pdf
JFF_ I1- Z58 et al.pdf
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Re: I-Z58
开云体育Hi Keith, Aaron,My father’s FTDNA results are Z63 [but not Z58], with the terminal at I-BY40648. His results are unusual, lacking in non-surname matches (a known cousin is 35/37 match). There are zero matches to his terminal SNP. I don’t have a good understanding of the haplogroup trees, but I had hoped through to identify a geographic region of origin for my male line. After looking at the results, it’s my understanding that the identification of regions associated with a haplogroup are based on the information provided by people who have tested. If that’s true, I would expect to find errors (due to incorrect family documentation) and large gaps (due to lack of participants) in the knowledge base. France, for instance is seriously under-represented in genetic test results. Can anyone suggest the implications of zero matches at the terminal SNP? I would also appreciate an insight in understanding how people from the UK would be downstream of a Native American. It flows like this, downstream of I-Z63:? I-Y6375
Amerindian ancestry >?I-Y13945?UK ancestry >?I-BY40648 (my father) Thanks in advance for any thoughts or suggestions! Best, Eileen
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Re: I-Z58
开云体育A rather simple explanation for the I-Y6375 amerindian part is that one person hasn’t the heritage he thinks, Somewhere in his line is an European ancestor. That is always the case when using user submitted information. The best with this is that the user now see that this is probably not right ?
? Fr?n: [email protected] <[email protected]> F?r E Avery ? Hi Keith, Aaron, ? My father’s FTDNA results are Z63 [but not Z58], with the terminal at I-BY40648. ? His results are unusual, lacking in non-surname matches (a known cousin is 35/37 match). There are zero matches to his terminal SNP. ? I don’t have a good understanding of the haplogroup trees, but I had hoped through to identify a geographic region of origin for my male line. After looking at the results, it’s my understanding that the identification of regions associated with a haplogroup are based on the information provided by people who have tested. If that’s true, I would expect to find errors (due to incorrect family documentation) and large gaps (due to lack of participants) in the knowledge base. France, for instance is seriously under-represented in genetic test results. ? Can anyone suggest the implications of zero matches at the terminal SNP? ? I would also appreciate an insight in understanding how people from the UK would be downstream of a Native American. It flows like this, downstream of I-Z63:? ????????????????????? I-Y6375 Amerindian ancestry >?I-Y13945?UK ancestry >?I-BY40648 (my father) ? Thanks in advance for any thoughts or suggestions! ? Best, Eileen ?
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