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Re: Obsidian


 

Is there a what looks like a UHF SO-239 connector on the head or the CU series power supply or your version of the LIXI PSU?

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Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2021 9:53:55 PM
Subject: Re: [XRF] Obsidian

This one is the PS-500-OS power supply- this version has no HV power supply inside, it is in the head. There are two versions, one controls the HV generator in the head with 12V signals, the other has the HV power supply in the control box and LV cables to the head and a single HV cable looks like RG-8. That's the newer kind and the style of the one in the basement here. I've worked with a several? of both styles in the past but only have the 2 now.



From: "DFEMER" <dfemer@...>
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Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2021 8:48:17 PM
Subject: Re: [XRF] Obsidian

I have 2 Kevex CU015 power supplies for the head and a LIXI PS-500-OS. What setup are you running?

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Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2021 8:31 PM
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Was that out of a LIXI and has a LIXI controller or does it use a Spellman power supply?

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From: "DFEMER" <dfemer@...>
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Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2021 8:25:00 PM
Subject: Re: [XRF] Obsidian

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No they¡¯re just sitting there I haven¡¯t fired it up with anything yet. The plan was to use them with the SiLi detector when I get a load of LN2 but the SDD is so much easier and nicer.

Can you run the comparison tests, I¡¯m curious to see the difference.

Dud

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Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2021 8:08 PM
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Dud are you using your Kevex? If so on what? Geo

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From: "DFEMER" <dfemer@...>
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Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2021 5:01:02 PM
Subject: Re: [XRF] Obsidian

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That should be the same one I have here a Kevex W micro focus. I ?don¡¯t see why you need to have 2 positions or a detector collimator, it will work fine with just ?a close up detector and no collimator. For low energy work you run a 15 kVp beam. You want to set the beam voltage about 10 keV above the K edge. Run 2 test shots, no detector collimator close up and with collimator close up. Try a 15 or 20 kVp beam if it¡¯s not filtered which I don¡¯t think the Las Vegas one was. ?All XRF needs to be done close up to maximize signal and minimize air absorption. What is you close up and far distance? You should be able to see Si, K, and Ca as they are important in determining what type of rock you¡¯re looking at.

Dud

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Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2021 4:45 PM
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Low energy is for below W L peaks, like K and Ca. Low energy from sample can't travel far in air, needs to be really close, the W L lines don't interfere with the wanted rays.

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What I have now is the same unit I had in Las Vegas in 2013.

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From: "DFEMER" <dfemer@...>
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Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2021 3:13:04 PM
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Geo,

What is the high energy position and purpose for both? I¡¯m seeing W in the spectra is this the high energy position run? What Is the purpose of the W 1mm collimator on a 25mm detector? The collimator and filter is used on the x-ray exit. ?Can you do the same run without it and close up detector.

The newer commercial units use a 45 deg setup with the detector the closest to the sample and it runs well down into the 1-2 keV range.

Dud

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amptek set up.bmp

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Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2021 2:13 PM
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Subject: Re: [XRF] Obsidian

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Back to Obsidian.?
One of my wife Betty's finds in New Mexico

A nice lump with a broken tendril the end of which is glass smooth. Perfect for micro beam XRFing.

1mm beam and 1mm hole in sensor's W collimator. 300 seconds, the sensor is moved back to the high energy position, which eliminates tungsten XRF activation in the collimator. It is moved much closer when lowest energies are to be observed, due to air attenuation in the path of those low energies. Normally they are studied in a vacuum for this reason.

High def pic of the setup and .mca attached.

Note the exciter beam path- .? This closer to conventional and the 45 degrees is the angle of the beam to target and of the XRF to the sensor for 90 degrees total. Commercial units are arranged with the exciter and sensor both facing nearly? the same way, more like the RAPCAP arrangement we use.



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