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Re: Xrf meteorite


 

FYI- All the ones being used here are factory matched DP5-PC5-Si-PIN. These are made from the OEM kits.

Geo


From: "DFEMER" <dfemer@...>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 12:04:38 PM
Subject: Re: [XRF] Xrf meteorite

Short peaking times are used for high count rates and with Pile up rejection and you trade off resolution for count rate. A longer peaking time is used for low count rates for better resolution but with a slower acquisition time. When changing peaking time you need to also reset the slow and fast thresholds to optimize to your system or you¡¯re still going to get low energy noise or missed counts ?That can be done manually or automatically in DppMCA. The DP5 system must also be set up with the actual specifications of the detector you are using so be sure to check that if it¡¯s not a factory supplied DP5/SI-pin pair. That setting is in the DPPMCA. The gain setting is going to set the range of interest and to a certain point the resolution which is limited by the FWHM resolution of the detector itself. Over sampling will do nothing for resolution but will increase the acquisition time by a factor of 2 for each doubling of conversion gain. Even SDD detectors only use 2048 channels.? Running a high count rate with the wrong peaking time will cause pile up problems loss of resolution and energy shifts. Watch your dead time and the Total and Input count. They should be close to one another. If total count is too high you have too much low threshold noise and need to optimize the system again

Am sources need a long count time to see much of anything other than % level elements 10 - 20 counts isn¡¯t a peak, it needs lots of counts and a Gaussian shape to see if its merged with other peaks, has a low energy tail, and to find the true centriod.

Dud

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Charles David Young
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 8:37 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [XRF] Xrf meteorite

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I'm using the same peaking time.

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El El mi¨¦, oct. 21, 2020 a la(s) 7:14 a.?m., <GEOelectronics@...> escribi¨®:

Charles, what is your peaking time? I've been using 4.8 us but may change it to slightly slower to get rid of all noise on far left.

Geo

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From: "Charles David Young" <charlesdavidyoung@...>
To: "XRF" <[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 21, 2020 7:46:09 AM
Subject: Re: [XRF] Xrf meteorite

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Hi Taray,

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If you could let that run about 10x longer we would have enough counts to know for sure whether there is something else in addition to Fe.? I would be interested in seeing that mca file again after that.

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BTW, 1024 channels is really not enough resolution for seeing everything.? I tried that for a while and it makes fast, smooth scans but I was missing a lot.? I now run 4096 channels and just wait for my largest peak to get to about 200.? BTW, I also changed my gain to 9.999x.

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Charles

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On Wed, Oct 21, 2020 at 5:23 AM taray singh via <sukhjez=[email protected]> wrote:

Mike

If I remember correctly,there was no change with bg.

I do not have scaler

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Here is a repeat scan with si pin

Only show Fe ..no nickel

I think it gives me a feel how the core of the earth is like.

Attached is a pdf of celestial radioactivity

Taray

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