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Re: Si pin xrf ..1st go


 

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Sounds good Taray. Keep those weird metal pieces coming we never get to see stuff like that. I wonder what dental implants look like.

Dud

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of taray singh via groups.io
Sent: Friday, October 2, 2020 4:30 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [XRF] Si pin xrf ..1st go

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Dude

Good advice.

With regard to 2048 gain,I will put on hold for now

Need to recalibrate to do so.

Need time to familiarize software first.

Thanks for the apron analysis

It's a composite rubberized lead apron.

Most likely homogenous

It will attenuate medical 120 kev x rays according to lead equivalent values.

Since it is close to the skin,the xrf esp from Sn to tissue is a concern.

Radiation is stochastic in nature.

Nuclear medicine departments apron are different.

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Regarding my knee implant analysis above,my ortho colleague agrees it is?

CoCrMb .He was probably testing me.

I have some new implants awaiting xrf

Welcome to Medical XrF

Taray

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On Friday, October 2, 2020, 04:37:52 AM GMT+8, Dude <dfemer@...> wrote:

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Taray,

Attached is a look at the original X-ray apron file you sent (Apron Dud.jpg). This is the same as Apron 1 and is a Pb Sn construction. Apron 2 is also a Pb Sn apron.

The F7F27 .jpeg you sent is looks to be Apron 2 which is of a Pb Sn construction not Bi Sn.

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Pb La1 10.55 keV

Pb Lb1? 12.61

Pb Lg1? 14.76

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Bi La1 10.83 keV

Bi Lb1? 13.02

Bi Lg1? 15.24

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Close together lines can create interpretation problems especially in noisy low resolution data. The use of a computer pick and pre labeled lines for ID is a bad idea and even worse is a preconceived notion of what you are expecting. The data tells you what it is not the other way around. A hypothesis is great, but test and verify it.

Note that your using a 1024 channel conversion gain over an energy range of 133 keV / 1024 channels or 0.13 keV/channel.

The energy separation between Pb and Bi La1 is only 0.38 keV or 3 channels and a Si detector has a FWHM resolution of about 0.250 keV at the Pb La1. The Si detector efficiency falls off very rapidly above 30 keV or so it would make better sense to calibrate 0 to 66 keV using a 2048 conversion gain. That would give you 0.03 keV/channel and allows you to do a AM-241 cal check as well.

I¡¯d also recommend doing longer count times to better define the peaks and to see the confirming lower yield peaks.

Dud

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of taray singh via groups.io
Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 4:22 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [XRF] Si pin xrf ..1st go

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Here is the x ray apron file.
Taray

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