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Re: Trinitite


 

"it could be the method by which intensity is reported."

I must agree because this is the first mass spec report I've ever seen.
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Still looking for more online.

But why Unat metal in the first place in the tamper? Why not their super depleted U?
The Pu' way a super pure, why trash up the test results with U-235?

Geo

----- Original Message -----
From: WILLIAM S Dubyk <sdubyk@...>
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Sent: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 21:50:34 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [XRF] Trinitite



Still too low to explain the discrepancy. Must be something else involved, it could be the method by which intensity is reported.


Steve



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Steve, a lot of the U-25 was fished. Some report 30% of the total released energy from Trinity was due to plain ol' natural U-235.

Geo



----- Original Message -----

From: WILLIAM S Dubyk <sdubyk@...>

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Sent: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 21:32:14 -0400 (EDT)

Subject: Re: [XRF] Trinitite





What is interesting is the ratio of intensity of 235/238. Of course, nuclide production, decay activity and contribution of Unat must be considered but it still seems off.



Steve

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He did weigh the sample Steve, but then he digested it in Hydrofluoric and Nitric acid. after drying he must have measured it again? Anyhow I don't know but would guess yes they can do that.

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From: WILLIAM S Dubyk <sdubyk@...>


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Sent: Tue, 29 Sep 2020 19:11:59 -0400 (EDT)


Subject: Re: [XRF] Trinitite






Is there any way to convert intensity to ppm or ppt?




Steve

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Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2020 4:05 PM
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"Neptunium", a YouTuber did an ICPMS mass-spectrum? of Trinitite.




From the data presented on isotope ratios these are of most interest to us:




Analysis? ? ?Intensity



? U-235? ? ? ? ? ?1523.1



? U-238? ? ? ?235679.6??



? Pu-239? ? ? ? ?6312.2



? Pu-240? ? ? ? ? ?167.5



? Pu-241? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?3.6?




Good to know. He did multiple runs, they were statistically the same.




We can start to make preliminary assumptions based on known T/2 of the isotopes and their daughters.




Pu-239 by far the most abundant species.?




Pu-241 is only T/2= 14.4 years so it's remarkable there is any left now. It decays 100% to Am-241 so we can get a calculation of it's T=0 quantity.




Pu-243 would have decayed away in one day, but it's 100% progeny Am-243 lasts a long time, so we have to at least consider the one report that identifies Am-243 as possible, while at the same time investigate the alternatives.




All-in-all we can probably claim a good half dozen X-Ray peaks to our personal Life-Lists, and either prove or debunk a few prior claims by others.




Good hunting.




Geo










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