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You could reasonably expect all that detailed knowledge would be available Geoff but at this point it simply is not, which makes the CASA decision difficult to justify.

?Hopefully the ATSB will soon complete its analysis of all the incidents involved and we can all benefit from that. Jabiru's own writings in respect of the CASA action give some indication of the parts involved and the type of service in which they have arisen but from its viewpoint, the major group involve high use training aircraft. Parts include case throughbolts, propellor attachment bolts and flywheel attachment fasteners, as well as valve trains which have led to the progressive changes in lifters and roller ends etc.

Actually, the latest issue of Jabachat, Jabiru's own periodic electronic magazine, carries a useful article covering the various changes over time. I was pleasantly surprised at the general tone of this issue and indeed, the generally more helpful tone of recent Service Bulletins released by the company. If better communication between the company and its customers is an outcome of this recent CASA action, that will? go some way to repairing the damage it has done to Jabiru owners.

I would expect maintenance issues will have been a factor in some incidents, having seen some questionable practices myself. It will be a significant day once we have a report with supporting data, on which we could all rely.

Bill

On 27/03/2015 1:59 PM, Geoffrey gbgartshore@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] wrote:

Thanks Bill. ?That is helpful. I would be very interested in the specifics of the various failures in Australia. ? What parts have failed , what type of flying was done , what were flight circumstances at time of failures , ?were maintenance issues involved? ? That way we Jabiru owners would have more guidance in our own engine management.?

Geoff Gartshore

On Mar 26, 2015, at 7:35 PM, Bill Maxwell wrmaxwell@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] <X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...> wrote:

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Geoffrey, it's a long and complex story that really does require considerable reading and research to get any reasonable understanding. I could give you my interpretation of the background it would only be my view. I suggest you take a look at the material available on - the RAAust being our self-administration body that covers the bulk of the Jabiru fleet in Australia - the yahoo jairuengines group and elsewhere. A google search should throw up heaps more.

I can say with absolute authority that the legislative instrument that imposed the limitations has an automatic sunset clause. It will cease to have effect on the. nominated June date, as a matter of Australian law. Whether it is replaced by another remains to be seen but I have to observe that introducing such a major set of restrictions for just a 7 month period seems? in itself an inadequate resonse to a situation if the severity of concern was sufficient to justify the restrictions in the first instance.

Bill

On 27/03/2015 9:54 AM, Geoffrey gbgartshore@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] wrote:

What does that mean? ?Have fixes been identified? ?Or will amended restrictions be identified?

Geoff Gartshore

On Mar 26, 2015, at 6:52 PM, Bill Maxwell wrmaxwell@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] <X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...> wrote:

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But in total fairness you should also read up on the background to the making of? those restrictions and note that they expire automatically in June this year.

On 27/03/2015 8:05 AM, Michael Coates mcoates@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] wrote:

Hello all, on paper the jabiru is a great engine but in the field it does have other issues.

Many of you in other parts of the world may not be aware of the very heavy restrictions put in place for the engine operations and manufacture by the CAA in Australia just before Christmas. If you are not already aware of these problems could I suggest a quick Internet search to pull up the relevant details?

M Capon wannagoflying@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] wrote, On 27/03/2015 6:29 AM:

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I use the Jab 2200 on my Hawk. Works great just make sure you keep it cool have good airflow

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From: "drice003@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft]"

Date:03-26-2015 5:13 PM (GMT-04:00)

To: X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft@...

Subject: Re: X-Air Ultralight Aircraft Re: Falcon or Standard HELP !!!!

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read here two guys pointing out best of best
Ray
You didn't mention........no gear box ,no oil cooler, running at 2x the rpms, more gas all is more weight , not to mention 76 hose connections to support the systems, then there is the 100's of updated rotax issuses. I am sure I missed some pluses also , and we all realize ,each has his own thoughts
Love the combo T & J
Dave

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I love my Tornado, especially with the Jabiru.? I believe they are a perfect match.? The Jab only burns about 3gph, no oil mixing, no radiator,? runs very strong.? I have worked on both my Jabirus and they are great for the wrench head with some experience who wants to save bundles doing his own work.? The work I did was a re-ring job on both engines due to cylinder corrosion from improper storage and lack of use.? You have to run them or at least turn the prop every week.

My T-II is a great handling plane, can turn on a dime, climbs great, and is very forgiving of crappy landings.? Only downside is they are very pitch sensitive and can scare the crapola out of you on landing if you have not flown one before.

I had the engine quit due to a previous owner using silicone in the fuel tank and landed in a VERY muddy farm field and the plane was completely undamaged, except for needing a thourough cleaning.

?I built my T-S because I got a great deal and wanted the extra room and the bells and whistles that came with it.

The only thing I do not like is the tandem seating, because I think passengers are more at ease when next to you.

Ray Henrie T-II 9079R T-S 1776E
4TN9

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I've had a standard on a 582 for 4 years and have very much enjoyed it. Very stable and a great climber. A bit frustrated in a headwind now and the 2 stroke limitations on distance. Has anyone advice for me on converting it to a Jabiru or 912? Is it worth it or a waste of time and effort?

Gwyn

On 26/03/2015 09:29, avia1or01@... [X-Air_Ultralight_Aircraft] wrote:

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I've been flying a 912 Falcon for a year and am loving it.

When buying I was advised that the flaps are a waste of time and I should get a standard, however when a 912 Falcon came on the market I had to have it.

Supposedly ? the F is slightly faster but if you want fast this is completely the wrong plane as both tootle along at 50 to 60 knots.

I have never used the flaps, there seems to be no point in them. It leaps of the ground like an excited puppy so I don't need them for take off and it lands in a very short space so I don't need them for landing. ? I guess they would be handy if I was trying to do an emergency landing in somebodies garden.

If I was buying I would ignore whether its an Falcon or a standard and concentrate on more important things such as the engine and condition. Either aircraft is a fantastic machine, very safe and predictable. They are als o by aeroplane standards very easy and cheap to maintain. I bought the whole aircraft for less than our group Cessna cost for its annual.

Do take a test flight and get the aircraft checked over before buying it.?



Regards,

Jon

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Gold Coast, Australia.

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