Re: X5105 Charger Problem - Can Anybody Help
Rick,
At first this seems like a cheap shortcut. However, it gives a lot of flexibility. For example, in addition to what Doug and others have said. You can use a solar panel to charge the built in battery.
Also remember that you have a menu option that turns charging on or off. Just because you have the power cord plugged in does not mean the radio battery is charging.
Brian
K0FBS
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Brian
K0FBS
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Re: X5105 Charger Problem - Can Anybody Help
On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 07:00 PM, TopHat wrote:
Understood that the X5105 comes with a lead, with no UK plug, but how does this unplugged lead then attach to the power supply (Red and Black terminals) and does it need to be fused (to what amps). 5A ?
The X5105 does not "normally" come with a power lead, but your supplier might have provided one (?).? The provider of yours should tell you about required fusing.? And about a UK plug for it.? Fusing depends on the maximum safe current into/out of the power supply, to prevent fire.? The AC supply current will be less than the DC charging output current, and the fuse size required depends on which lead it is in.? (You didn't say.)? Hopefully it has a plug that matches the radio's power/charging connector. I posted information about the battery charger I bought for my X5105 in the very first message posted in this group. /g/X5105-Users/topic/my_battery_charger_for_the/75611521?p=,,,20,0,0,0::recentpostdate%2Fsticky,,,20,2,20,75611521It does not have any fuses. ? -- Doug, K8RFT
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Re: X5105 Charger Problem - Can Anybody Help
If you have a station power supply at 13.8vdc you already have what you need to charge the X5105. The radio itself should come with a charging cable with proper connector on one end and no connector on the other end that you can connect to a 13.8vdc supply. That is how I charge mine.
Regards,
On Wed, May 5, 2021 at 18:00, TopHat via groups.io <Siberpaw@...> wrote: Awaiting a X5105 Unit. However I can¡¯t source a simple charger anywhere in the UK for this unit at 13.8V and 5A.
The only information I can obtain is that I need a separate power supply, which I¡¯ve ordered and awaiting delivery.
Understood that the X5105 comes with a lead, with no UK plug, but how does this unplugged lead then attach to the power supply (Red and Black terminals) and does it need to be fused (to what amps). 5A ?
Typical of the Chinese to produce a product that will be difficult to charge. ?As for taking it out mobile then how is it powered ?
By by the time I¡¯ve resolved this power issue the unit will likely be drained of power. If anyone has any suggestions I¡¯m all ears.?
Thanks.?
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X5105 Charger Problem - Can Anybody Help
Awaiting a X5105 Unit. However I can¡¯t source a simple charger anywhere in the UK for this unit at 13.8V and 5A.
The only information I can obtain is that I need a separate power supply, which I¡¯ve ordered and awaiting delivery.
Understood that the X5105 comes with a lead, with no UK plug, but how does this unplugged lead then attach to the power supply (Red and Black terminals) and does it need to be fused (to what amps). 5A ?
Typical of the Chinese to produce a product that will be difficult to charge. ?As for taking it out mobile then how is it powered ?
By by the time I¡¯ve resolved this power issue the unit will likely be drained of power. If anyone has any suggestions I¡¯m all ears.?
Thanks.?
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This ebay listing
FT8 Audio CAT Interface 8-Pin Mini DIN DATA Cable XIEGU G90 X5105 HF Transceiver
is for a very handy-looking cable, for $14 + $1 shipping.
It connects to the mini-DIN connector and doesn't use (or need) USB.? But this version is only for PC's with a TRRS audio jack - one connector for both headphones and microphone.? There is another version of the cable for PCs that have separate MIC and Headphone jacks (same price).
[Having the DATA signal at/in the ACC connector is a great idea!? I should have thought of this setup myself!]
the seller's store is
He has a bunch of accessories for the Xiegus and the IC-705.? One that sounds good is a charger/power supply for the X5105, at $15 + $2 shipping.
I wondered about how popular this store might be, so here's a couple "specs" from the page
bd7-maple
166 followers; bd7-maple (1408 ratings) 100.0%-
I plan to order the cable once I get back to Michigan - I can only get paypal items shipped there, but I'm away for a couple of months.? Meanwhile, I'll use my homebrew "kludge" connections.
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Doug, K8RFT
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Re: Winlink using xggcoms cable
Thanks! I also ran across OH8STN blog post about his settings last night just before bed and his settings are just about the same as yours. Hopefully I'll get it working with winlink today and be done with digital mode setup. Setup for everything else was pretty straight forward... WSJT-X, JS8call, MMSSTV, and N3FJP for logging.
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Re: Winlink using xggcoms cable
Ben,
Here are the settings I used with my XGGCOMS Soundcard (I have the soundcard only model, so I had to use the Mfg CIV Computer Cable for Rig Control.) and I was TX on Winlink VARA HF and Winlink set the radio freq to the RMS station I chose from the Station Table.
Winlink Settings
Radio Setup
Radio =IC-7100, Icom Add =70, USB
Radio Control Com# ( whatever the comport is for computer control of the radio), Baud =19200, Enable RTS checked
PTT Port = External
Vara Soundcard Menu=USB Audio Device
On the X5105
Menu 6 Lin/Out, Short Press
LIN = On
LOUT=On
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Brian
K0FBS
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Winlink using xggcoms cable
Does anyone have settings for rms express/winlink using the xggcoms cable??
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Mike,
What a story! I am so glad you shared that.
Brian
K0FBS
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Brian
K0FBS
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Practice,practice and practice some more. I've been using a bug of one brand or another since I was a teenager (more years than I care to admit) I collect Vibroplex bugs, not because they are the best, because of their history. Everyone has their own views on keys and thats the way it should be. What works best for you may be a scurge to the next op. Ive used Vibroplex,Speed-X, a home brew and now a Japanese BK100 which in my opinion is the best,easiest to use bug around once its properly adjusted.
My opinion of course but the thing to remember is stick with what you like and practice, even on the air. CW ops will always take the time to accomodate a slower speed operator.
Best 73s and gud luk
Rick/K9ETE
On Wednesday, March 24, 2021 Mike Colyar <[email protected]> wrote:Dave,
When I got my first bug (A real Vibroplex. The christmas gift of a lifetime!) in 1960, I spent a long time getting proficient. Once able to send reasonably well I used it for years until I got my first electronic keyer and promptly gave the bug away. Then the real problem reared its head. Complacency.
It was so easy to send flawless code that I began to relax. Sort of like the 100 hour pilot syndrome. I got so relaxed that it began to fall apart. The reason being that while the bug could lead to poorly formed characters but still the right ones, my keyer produced flawless code until it didn¡¯t and then I flat out sent the wrong character! Made me look like a lunatic rather than an oaf.
I force myself to practice five minutes or so when I¡¯m getting back into CW after a lapse of more than a few months. Allows me to hide my inner oaf and lunatic.
Don¡¯t be apologetic for sending slower code. When signals are weak, rushing the matter doesn¡¯t help. It takes much longer to send a repeat than to send it right the first time.
Long winded story follows:
When the big earthquake hit Alaska in 1964 I was a volunteer operator at the State of Washington civil defense station in Olympia, WA. As a college student at the time I could drop everything and man the RACES/ARES station. There had been a solar flare so H.F. links of all sorts were down especially RTTY. Voice (A.M.) was a joke so we were down to CW. The main traffic list was, as usual, outgoing health and welfare to the lower 48. All using ARL message encoding for brevity. We moved back and forth between 40m and 20m. A Johnson desk KW at my end. Wonder where it is now?
I started on Friday evening receiving incoming traffic. I wrote the traffic down on adding machine tape and when the strip of tape reached the floor a nice Red Cross woman ripped off the copy and typed it into their TTY land line network. All I had to do was write down the headers and signatures and the ARL code. And then send "QSL NR X¡±. They had several operators up there but I was alone. The only CW fool available. A run to the bathroom occasionally and the occasional sandwich. Two short naps I think.
Between Friday when I started and Sunday night when some sort of TTY link was re-established all I did was receive traffic. Our working speed varied from maybe 18-20 when the signals were good to creeping with repeats during fades. When we were doing an 'after action' analysis a week or so later, it was pointed out to me that I should have been paid on a piecework basis as my message total was just over 2000. About one per minute some of the time. How they managed to organize such an effort at the Anchorage end I have no idea.
Ah, youth. I was 21 and full of beans and thought I was invincible. I slept for days.
I don¡¯t think PSK or other digital modes would have done any better though it would have made it possible to use less skilled operators.
Mike K7ITL
On Mar 24, 2021, at 2:10 PM, David KK7SS < d3j452@...> wrote:
Mike,
Thank you for your reply.
I've just acquired my first 'bug' and do not wish to inflict damage to someones brains or ears while I try to get used to the transition from a straight key...
Dave KK7SS
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Dave,
When I got my first bug (A real Vibroplex. The christmas gift of a lifetime!) in 1960, I spent a long time getting proficient. Once able to send reasonably well I used it for years until I got my first electronic keyer and promptly gave the bug away. Then the real problem reared its head. Complacency.
It was so easy to send flawless code that I began to relax. Sort of like the 100 hour pilot syndrome. I got so relaxed that it began to fall apart. The reason being that while the bug could lead to poorly formed characters but still the right ones, my keyer produced flawless code until it didn¡¯t and then I flat out sent the wrong character! Made me look like a lunatic rather than an oaf.
I force myself to practice five minutes or so when I¡¯m getting back into CW after a lapse of more than a few months. Allows me to hide my inner oaf and lunatic.
Don¡¯t be apologetic for sending slower code. When signals are weak, rushing the matter doesn¡¯t help. It takes much longer to send a repeat than to send it right the first time.
Long winded story follows:
When the big earthquake hit Alaska in 1964 I was a volunteer operator at the State of Washington civil defense station in Olympia, WA. As a college student at the time I could drop everything and man the RACES/ARES station. There had been a solar flare so H.F. links of all sorts were down especially RTTY. Voice (A.M.) was a joke so we were down to CW. The main traffic list was, as usual, outgoing health and welfare to the lower 48. All using ARL message encoding for brevity. We moved back and forth between 40m and 20m. A Johnson desk KW at my end. Wonder where it is now?
I started on Friday evening receiving incoming traffic. I wrote the traffic down on adding machine tape and when the strip of tape reached the floor a nice Red Cross woman ripped off the copy and typed it into their TTY land line network. All I had to do was write down the headers and signatures and the ARL code. And then send "QSL NR X¡±. They had several operators up there but I was alone. The only CW fool available. A run to the bathroom occasionally and the occasional sandwich. Two short naps I think.
Between Friday when I started and Sunday night when some sort of TTY link was re-established all I did was receive traffic. Our working speed varied from maybe 18-20 when the signals were good to creeping with repeats during fades. When we were doing an 'after action' analysis a week or so later, it was pointed out to me that I should have been paid on a piecework basis as my message total was just over 2000. About one per minute some of the time. How they managed to organize such an effort at the Anchorage end I have no idea.
Ah, youth. I was 21 and full of beans and thought I was invincible. I slept for days.
I don¡¯t think PSK or other digital modes would have done any better though it would have made it possible to use less skilled operators.
Mike K7ITL
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On Mar 24, 2021, at 2:10 PM, David KK7SS < d3j452@...> wrote:
Mike,
Thank you for your reply.
I've just acquired my first 'bug' and do not wish to inflict damage to someones brains or ears while I try to get used to the transition from a straight key...
Dave KK7SS
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Mike,
Thank you for your reply.
I've just acquired my first 'bug' and do not wish to inflict damage to someones brains or ears while I try to get used to the transition from a straight key...
Dave KK7SS
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In mSec for sure. Experimenting is good.
I have gravitated to setting my QSK dropout to a very short delay. That¡¯s what QSK really means after all. Hearing the other person if they transmit while you are sending.
I was testing on a schedule with a local ham recently where his Paraset receiver wasn¡¯t working. It saved a lot of time to hear him start transmitting while I was calling him.
The relay clicking and the burst of noise between dits is a distraction but I have adjusted to it.
Mike K7ITL
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On Mar 24, 2021, at 9:20 AM, David KK7SS < d3j452@...> wrote:
[Edited Message Follows] (EDITED) Is the number for QSK? in mSec or nSec? If mSec , I calculate that a QSK number of ~700 is needed to stop drop-out at 10 WPM.
Am I correct?
I do NOT want to have a certain relay chattering away at my slow CW speed ! Thanks? :-)
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David didn¡¯t want you to go for long without an acknowledgment of your post. I do not know I have never worked with the CW features. I¡¯m sure someone on here does know.?
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Brian
K0FBS
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(EDITED)
Is the number for QSK? in mSec or nSec?
If mSec , I calculate that a QSK number of ~700 is needed to stop drop-out at 10 WPM.
Am I correct?
I do NOT want to have a certain relay chattering away at my slow CW speed !
Thanks? :-)
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Re: What hardware is needed for RTTY/data with X5105?
I second that there are some great posts in the In Feb I posted a schematic for a cable I created last Fall here: /g/X5105-UsersThen, click on Files What I learned today that I didn¡¯t know before is that we can view all of the emailed photos in one spot Under Main -> Photos. I didn¡¯t know that was an option. Neat :-) 73 Joe
On Mar 21, 2021, at 7:50 AM, DougVL <K8RFTradio@...> wrote:
On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 12:18 PM, Brian wrote:
A USB dongle is the better choice in my experience. The cheap ones work fine.
That's the way I run FT8, too, with external USB sound card. But I'm using an Icom IC-706MkII radio. My first try at setting up the X5105 for FT8 was with the external sound card, too. For portability convenience, the 'direct connection' might be better. But for flexibility, the USB dongle is great. And I've read somewhere else about guys hearing Windows sounds and announcements on the FT8 frequencies because the Windows sounds and alerts weren't turned off, and got sent out along with the FT8 tones.
If your PC or tablet has the single audio jack (TRRS) you can get a USB sound card with the same connector and use just one audio cable instead of two. There would still need to be the "Y" adapter at the CE-17 end of the audio cable, though. There is another thread in this group, with pictures of one member's setup with the TRRS cables. He bought an 8-pin mini-DIN cable for getting the audio signals direct from the radio and didn't use the CE-17 interface. I am also pursuing that method and have made up the adapters and tested it.
At the top of each page, there's a "search" box. To its left, there's a button marked "Topics." Click the 'topics' button to see the list of all topics in the group, then click "Search" and look for terms like 'mini-din' or 'TRRS' or 'usb dongle'. Some great day we'll work up nice, well organized tutorials for subjects like this and post them in the group's WIKI or FILES areas. I hope!
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Doug, K8RFT
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Re: Light Saver Max Solar Generator Test
On Sun, Mar 21, 2021 at 12:57 PM, KG2RG wrote:
Light Saver Max is a high quality solar generator
$400 (at Amazon) is far out of my range, but thanks for the idea. ? -- Doug, K8RFT
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Light Saver Max Solar Generator Test
The Light Saver Max is a high quality solar generator perfect with the X5105, maybe the G90 too.?
it is a 12v 2.5a continuous, 5a max, 60ah battery with very high quality solar panels. Small, packable and at just 1.5lbs. You can also connect an additional panel for faster change.?
I spent 2 hours powering the X5105 and according to the indicator of the Light Saver Max, the capacity was the same from start to end. The charger on the X5105 was set to off and the only power source was the external solar generator.?
it¡¯s a little pricey, but you get what you pay for!
here it is in action:
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Re: Connecting a ground or counterpoise to the X5105
I recall seeing a multi-band dipole vid on YouTube using these connectors, from Amazon, between the multi-band segments.
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Pixnor 50 Pairs of 2.0mm Gold Plated Male and Female Bullet Banana Connectors Plugs for DIY RC Battery ESC Motor"
These could be used to make your multi-band conterpoise.
Also, search YouTube for speaker cord antenna.
Good Luck
73, Dan
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Re: What hardware is needed for RTTY/data with X5105?
On Sat, Mar 20, 2021 at 12:18 PM, Brian wrote:
A USB dongle is the better choice in my experience. The cheap ones work fine.
That's the way I run FT8, too, with external USB sound card.? But I'm using an Icom IC-706MkII radio.? My first try at setting up the X5105 for FT8 was with the external sound card, too.? For portability convenience, the 'direct connection' might be better.? But for flexibility, the USB dongle is great.? And I've read somewhere else about guys hearing Windows sounds and announcements on the FT8 frequencies because the Windows sounds and alerts weren't turned off, and got sent out along with the FT8 tones. If your PC or tablet has the single audio jack (TRRS) you can get a USB sound card with the same connector and use just one audio cable instead of two.? There would still need to be the "Y" adapter at the CE-17 end of the audio cable, though.? There is another thread in this group, with pictures of one member's setup with the TRRS cables.? He bought an 8-pin mini-DIN cable for getting the audio signals direct from the radio and didn't use the CE-17 interface.? I am also pursuing that method and have made up the adapters and tested it. At the top of each page, there's a "search" box.? To its left, there's a button marked "Topics."? Click the 'topics' button to see the list of all topics in the group, then click "Search" and look for terms like 'mini-din' or 'TRRS'? or 'usb dongle'.? Some great day we'll work up nice, well organized tutorials for subjects like this and post them in the group's WIKI or FILES areas.? I hope! ? -- Doug, K8RFT
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Brian Smith
David KK7SS