On Jul 28, 2020, at 3:39 PM, paul fox <pgf@...> wrote:

Whew. My mouse hand is tired.

Our group photos used to take 1.3Gb of storage. Now they take 323Mb.
It took the group 7 years to fill that 323Mb. It hope it's a while
until we hit the 1Gb ceiling again.

Things to know:

I've reenabled the Photos section. Images are resized automatically
to a maxiumum of 1024x1024 when you upload. Because there are _some_
photos that would benefit from higher resolutions than that, I've also
turned on the ability to store photos in the Files section, where no
resizing takes place. Please don't do this unless it's really necessary.
(I can also temporarily disable the automatic resizing if you really need
to upload higher res photos, and want then in a Photos album.)

I may enable photo attachments, but haven't decided yet. I think
having to create an album and do an upload just to illustrate a point
in email is cumbersome. I'll look into it.

I did skip a few albums intentionally, so they're still at their full
resolutions. Helen DeFoe's photos of, and taken by, Allen Wilson himself,
for instance. The "Hertzberg plate" is another. (That one should probably
be in Files.)

I fumbled fingered while dealing with two albums, and hit "Delete" on
the album, instead of on the next photo. So those two needed to be
fully recreated, and as a result they now appear as our two newest
albums. The orginal creation date is mentioned in the descriptions.

I did not change ownership of individual photos back to the original
owner -- that would have been a lot more clicks. So all the re-uploads
are owned by me. The albums themselves should still have the correct
owner -- I hope that's sufficient. If not, let me know.

Photos within albums may be in a different order than they were
before. If an email thread refers to the album, and pictures were
added incrementally over time, the thread might now seem confusing.
(Not sure about this.)

Also, the album cover picture may have changed, if groups.io was
selecting it based on upload order. In addition, if you had set a
specific photo to be the album cover picture, that choice has been
lost. Summary: if you don't like your album cover picture, change
it. (You'll see a checkbox if you "edit" the picture that you want to
choose.)

If you deleted an album recently to help save space, I'm sorry you
felt you needed to do that. You're welcome to recreate your album
and re-upload those pictures if you'd like. (In some cases, I may
have a copy, if I took my snapshot before you deleted. But I won't
upload them without you asking.)

Let me know if you see any issues!

paul
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paul fox, pgf@... (arlington, ma, where it's 87.4 degrees)

On Jul 30, 2020, at 8:41 AM, paul fox <pgf@...> wrote:

mb wrote:

Paul,

Is there a new procedure of how to edit our photo albums? ?I tried
numerous combinations of clicks but the site always takes me back
to the home page. ?My goal was to exchange three photos but keep
the quantity of pictures the same.

Can you even add a picture? ?I wouldn't have thought there was
anything changed, but perhaps it's because while, although the owner
of the album should be unchanged from before, the owner of the individual
pictures is now me, in all cases. ?:-/ ?I can fix that, slowly.

In the meantime: ?please try just adding a photo, and let me know if that
works. ?After that, I'll make you the owner of all the photos in the
album in question. ?(Please let me know the name of the album.)

Oh, and one other thing: ?there's no real reason to keep the number of
pictures the same. ?We have lots of room now.

paul

Mary

On Jul 28, 2020, at 3:39 PM, paul fox <pgf@...> wrote:

Whew. ?My mouse hand is tired.

Our group photos used to take 1.3Gb of storage. ?Now they take 323Mb.
It took the group 7 years to fill that 323Mb. ?It hope it's a while
until we hit the 1Gb ceiling again.

Things to know:

I've reenabled the Photos section. ?Images are resized automatically
to a maxiumum of 1024x1024 when you upload. ?Because there are _some_
photos that would benefit from higher resolutions than that, I've also
turned on the ability to store photos in the Files section, where no
resizing takes place. ?Please don't do this unless it's really necessary.
(I can also temporarily disable the automatic resizing if you really need
to upload higher res photos, and want then in a Photos album.)

I may enable photo attachments, but haven't decided yet. ?I think
having to create an album and do an upload just to illustrate a point
in email is cumbersome. ?I'll look into it.

I did skip a few albums intentionally, so they're still at their full
resolutions. ?Helen DeFoe's photos of, and taken by, Allen Wilson himself,
for instance. ?The "Hertzberg plate" is another. ?(That one should probably
be in Files.)

I fumbled fingered while dealing with two albums, and hit "Delete" on
the album, instead of on the next photo. ?So those two needed to be
fully recreated, and as a result they now appear as our two newest
albums. ?The orginal creation date is mentioned in the descriptions.

I did not change ownership of individual photos back to the original
owner -- that would have been a lot more clicks. ?So all the re-uploads
are owned by me. ?The albums themselves should still have the correct
owner -- I hope that's sufficient. ?If not, let me know.

Photos within albums may be in a different order than they were
before. ?If an email thread refers to the album, and pictures were
added incrementally over time, the thread might now seem confusing.?
(Not sure about this.)

Also, the album cover picture may have changed, if was
selecting it based on upload order. ?In addition, if you had set a
specific photo to be the album cover picture, that choice has been
lost. ?Summary: ?if you don't like your album cover picture, change
it. ?(You'll see a checkbox if you "edit" the picture that you want to
choose.)

If you deleted an album recently to help save space, I'm sorry you
felt you needed to do that. ?You're welcome to recreate your album
and re-upload those pictures if you'd like. ?(In some cases, I may
have a copy, if I took my snapshot before you deleted. ?But I won't
upload them without you asking.)

Let me know if you see any issues!

paul
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paul fox, pgf@... (arlington, ma, where it's 87.4 degrees)

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paul fox,?pgf@...?(arlington, ma, where it's 79.5 degrees)

On Jul 30, 2020, at 9:10 AM, paul fox <pgf@...> wrote:

mb wrote:

Paul,

No, I could not add a new picture to an existing album. The
album’s name is: Singer 9W7 with bagel bobbin - Laguna Hills,
California

Well, thank you, Mary, for being our first test subject.

It was user error: mine. I'm not sure how, but somehow I never
reenabled the Photos section for everyone but me. Fixed now, I hope.
Let me know if you still can't delete a photo -- I may still need to
change ownership for that to work.

paul

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paul fox, pgf@... (arlington, ma, where it's 80.4 degrees)

On Jul 30, 2020, at 10:37 AM, MB Freeman <bumby3@...> wrote:

OK I’ll give it a try and get back to you Paul.

On Jul 30, 2020, at 9:10 AM, paul fox <pgf@...> wrote:

mb wrote:

Paul,

No, I could not add a new picture to an existing album. ?The
album’s name is: ?Singer 9W7 with bagel bobbin - Laguna Hills,
California

Well, thank you, Mary, for being our first test subject.

It was user error: ?mine. ?I'm not sure how, but somehow I never
reenabled the Photos section for everyone but me. ?Fixed now, I hope.?
Let me know if you still can't delete a photo -- I may still need to
change ownership for that to work.

paul

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paul fox, pgf@... (arlington, ma, where it's 80.4 degrees)

On Jul 30, 2020, at 1:37 PM, paul fox <pgf@...> wrote:

mb wrote:

Paul,

I successfully added 3 photos ...

Great!

...but, I could not find a delete photo
icon. ?There is only a delete album icon, any thoughts on this?

For pictures, it's inside of "Edit". ?Select the picture, then Edit,
then Delete.

paul

Mary

On Jul 30, 2020, at 10:37 AM, MB Freeman <bumby3@...> wrote:

OK I’ll give it a try and get back to you Paul.

On Jul 30, 2020, at 9:10 AM, paul fox <pgf@...> wrote:

mb wrote:

Paul,

No, I could not add a new picture to an existing album. ?The
album’s name is: ?Singer 9W7 with bagel bobbin - Laguna Hills,
California

Well, thank you, Mary, for being our first test subject.

It was user error: ?mine. ?I'm not sure how, but somehow I never
reenabled the Photos section for everyone but me. ?Fixed now, I hope.?
Let me know if you still can't delete a photo -- I may still need to
change ownership for that to work.

paul

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paul fox, pgf@... (arlington, ma, where it's 80.4 degrees)

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paul fox,?pgf@...?(arlington, ma, where it's 81.3 degrees)

On Jul 30, 2020, at 3:28 PM, paul fox <pgf@...> wrote:

mb wrote:

Paul,

I hate to keep bugging you but, following your instructions (I
think I did), the only option under edit is delete the entire
album. ?I found no way to select one picture and then delete it.
Can you do a test on your end to check, it may be my fault because
I am not the sharpest when it comes to these gadgets.

It's not you. ?The interface isn't very good.

There are two Edit buttons. ?One on the album screen that shows all
your photos, and another after you select a specific photo. ?I think
you're using the first one, rather than the second.

Go into your album. ?Ignore the Edit and Delete buttons at the top.

Click on your picture. ?There will be an Edit button at the bottom of
???the screen (along with Move, and Report). ?Click that Edit button.
???There will be a red Delete button at the bottom of that screen.

paul
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paul fox, pgf@... (arlington, ma, where it's 79.7 degrees)

On Jul 30, 2020, at 3:36 PM, MB Freeman <bumby3@...> wrote:

Sorry Paul but that did not work. ?Here is a screen shot of what happened after following you direction. ?I think I did what you said but like I said, I’m not the best on these gadgets.

On Jul 30, 2020, at 3:28 PM, paul fox <pgf@...> wrote:

mb wrote:

Paul,

I hate to keep bugging you but, following your instructions (I
think I did), the only option under edit is delete the entire
album. ?I found no way to select one picture and then delete it.?
Can you do a test on your end to check, it may be my fault because
I am not the sharpest when it comes to these??gadgets.

It's not you. ?The interface isn't very good.

There are two Edit buttons. ?One on the album screen that shows all
your photos, and another after you select a specific photo. ?I think
you're using the first one, rather than the second.

Go into your album. ?Ignore the Edit and Delete buttons at the top.

Click on your picture. ?There will be an Edit button at the bottom of
???the screen (along with Move, and Report). ?Click that Edit button.?
???There will be a red Delete button at the bottom of that screen.

paul
=----------------------
paul fox,?pgf@...?(arlington, ma, where it's 79.7 degrees)

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