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Hello, all.? I've been lurking here for a few months and have so appreciated your wealth of knowledge.? I currently have a beautiful W&W 9 in a gorgeous cabinet, a D9 machine head that was rescued from a salvage bin, a working W9 in a Singer cabinet and four early No. 8's with two No. 8 bases.? One of the W&W 8 bases is destined to become a conversation piece as it's missing the top and all of the drawers.? The other base was professionally stripped of it's wood finish and is nearly pristine--I'm told that its chestnut wood.? (I did not have the finish stripped...it arrived here in that condition.)
This past weekend, I found a Singer badged cobbler on a Wheeler & Wilson industrial base.? Am not finding much info here on W&W industrials.? I'm also not finding much info on the so-called Singer cobbler machine head as it doesn't match anything that I find online.? I'm thinking that it could be a re-badged W&W from Singer's acquisition...?
I read not to post photos here so I just set up a shutterfly account to share photos and am hoping that I'm doing this correctly.? Here's the link to my photos.?


Thank you all in advance for any information you can provide.
Roxy

roxy via groups.io wrote:
> This past weekend, I found a Singer badged cobbler on a Wheeler & Wilson
> industrial base. Am not finding much info here on W&W industrials. I'm

Interesting. You might try googling for UFA (can't remember what that
stands for) since it looks older tgan the 29-4, and that suggests a
UFA machine.

Also, you should feel free to attach pictures to your group messages,
or create your own album to put them in.

paul


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paul fox, pgf@... (arlington, ma, where it's 63.7 degrees)

Universal Feed Arm.? If that's what it is, it's a fabulous, bordering on rare catch!

Thank you both!? It appears that the machine is 100% Singer and matches photos for Singer No. 29.? My next question is about what kind of W&W machine head would've originally been on the base.? I'm assuming that it was an electric machine because it doesn't appear that the base is set up for a fly wheel. Anything is possible, tho, as I've not done any rehab work on industrial machines and know very little about them.? I didn't know that W&W made industrial machines until a few weeks ago.

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If you'll allow me, that is not a 29.? That is a UFA, which pre-dates the 29 series.? ISMACS notes that they were produced from 1877 to 1892+.? The 29-4 started in 1896, but no real data on US or UK 29s before that.? 29k-1, UK, produced 1887 to 1921.? So there's some overlap there.??

bsiegmund01, my assumption about the UFA being a No. 29 was based on this.? I really know nothing about them.?

Huh.? I wonder if the parts list was put out as Singer was changing the name, because it also has "UFA" at the bottom.? Clearly, there's a crossover in name prior to any design change.? The 29s we're used to seeing have a different drive setup for the needle bar, as in the attached photo (1911 29-4).? I'm not sure where the serial numbers are on the older models, but it would be very interesting to look it up and determine the age.? On our 29 it's stamped into the edge of the base below the pillar.? There are some folks over at Victorian Sweatshop and on an FB industrial group who are much more knowledgeable than I.

And, yeah, what the heck went on that W&W base?? A #7?? Seems large for that.

Thank you again!? Will check the forums.? Since I now know that the machine is not a W&W, I'll try not to discuss it much more here.? However, as you mentioned, the W&W base is perplexing.? If anyone needs measurements or more photos to assist in identification, I'll be glad to take them.? It's definitely larger than any W&W base I have already, and designed for an industrial.