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Great find!? Welcome to the group. Would love to see pics.?? On Mar 17, 2018 4:58 PM, "Beka via Groups.Io" <lovearizona03=[email protected]> wrote:
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Thanks for adding me to your group. I picked up a Wheeler and Wilson machine last week.? The tag says 1858 but I was told it is a 1867. No badge and it looks like the some of the parts might be silver plated. The cabinet and irons are in great shape. I have been working on cleaning dirty parts and have finally gotten this old sole sewing. I am from Ohio and have a large collection of singer sewing machines. Just really like getting them sewing again.? |
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Beka; Welcome to the group. I assume this is one of the curved needle machines. Very interesting machines. I have one of these in the half case treadle cabinet which was made in 1872. I also have acquired a head only from 1860 but as this one has the wide bed & the treadle is for the narrow bed the early head does not fit the treadle.? There is a serial number listing on these which was worked up by the late Grace Rogers Cooper, former curator at the Smithsonian. She used the number of licenses sold through the "Sewing Machine Combination" to derive it. It is thus not guaranteed 100% accurate but is very close.? I have a copy of these numbers so if you would like to post your serial? number would be happy to look up her date. There is a copy of an 1866 "Ladies Almanac" published by W&W which also includes a catalog dispersed throughout its pages, you might find interesting on the Smithsonian site. It is available Here;? ? Miller/TN On Friday, March 16, 2018 9:05 PM, Beka via Groups.Io <lovearizona03@...> wrote: Thanks for adding me to your group. I picked up a Wheeler and Wilson machine last week.? The tag says 1858 but I was told it is a 1867. No badge and it looks like the some of the parts might be silver plated. The cabinet and irons are in great shape. I have been working on cleaning dirty parts and have finally gotten this old sole sewing. I am from Ohio and have a large collection of singer sewing machines. Just really like getting them sewing again.? |
Thanks again for the add. I had no clue what I was dealing with here. They are very simple machines compared to the new ones. Or should I say newer ones. Yes it is the curved needle machine. The serial number is 304221 and also in the half treadle cabinet. Would love to get an approximant date. Love the Smithsonian site. Very interesting.?? |
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Great find!? Welcome to the group. Would love to see pics.?? On Mar 17, 2018 4:58 PM, "Beka via Groups.Io" <lovearizona03=[email protected]> wrote:
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Hi Beka; Serial number 304,221 would date to 1867. Although I did not buy them all I have seen a few warranty cards, bill of sales etc where a known date was established & they have all matched with this chart which Mrs Cooper worked up so I do feel it? is quite accurate.? Incidentally don't recall if I have mentioned it before but this machine in the High Bed version was still listed in a 1924 Singer/Bridgeport catalog as the model 1W1 for industrial use. Miller On Tue, Mar 20, 2018 at 10:47 PM, Beka via Groups.Io <lovearizona03@...> wrote:
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