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No. 3 heartburn


 

Good day, all!

I am now gratefully accepting? input--thoughts, experience, wild guesses--regarding why the thread on our #3 refuses to pass over the bobbin, instead forging its own path underneath.

Here's what I have tried so far:
Observing the few youtube vids out available;
Searching this group for hints (haven't been able to tease anything out, so please point out known threads that I have missed);
Securing the bobbin thread to the small rod under the cloth plate;
Not securing the bobbin thread beneath the plate;
Tilting the machine (which resulted in one correct motion);
Adjusting the ring slide to be progressively looser or tighter;
Holding the upper thread when starting out;
Not holding the upper thread when starting out;
Adjusting the upper thread tension;
Stringing certain words together in interesting arrangements.

The machine is 1860 vintage. Could the hook simply be worn out?

Thanks in advance,
Ziggy in Maine


 

Can you post a video with the bobbin cover or door open so the bobbin area is exposed,
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? forming (or attempting to form) a stitch(es) in slow motion,
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?using very high contrast thread in different colors top & bottom?
Narration please.

Sandra


On Sun, Feb 25, 2024 at 11:35?AM Bruce Siegmund <bsiegmund01@...> wrote:
Good day, all!

I am now gratefully accepting? input--thoughts, experience, wild guesses--regarding why the thread on our #3 refuses to pass over the bobbin, instead forging its own path underneath.

Here's what I have tried so far:
Observing the few youtube vids out available;
Searching this group for hints (haven't been able to tease anything out, so please point out known threads that I have missed);
Securing the bobbin thread to the small rod under the cloth plate;
Not securing the bobbin thread beneath the plate;
Tilting the machine (which resulted in one correct motion);
Adjusting the ring slide to be progressively looser or tighter;
Holding the upper thread when starting out;
Not holding the upper thread when starting out;
Adjusting the upper thread tension;
Stringing certain words together in interesting arrangements.

The machine is 1860 vintage. Could the hook simply be worn out?

Thanks in advance,
Ziggy in Maine



--
Sandra W. Haak
Phone (cell) 801-201-5331
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This is a #3, so it doesn't have a bobbin cover.? Attached pic is of a different machine (#1), same style/model.? Same principle on the #8, don't know about #9 models. Our #8 works perfectly, but is designed somewhat differently than the 1 or 3.


On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 12:09?PM Sandra Haak <swhaak@...> wrote:
Can you post a video with the bobbin cover or door open so the bobbin area is exposed,
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? forming (or attempting to form) a stitch(es) in slow motion,
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?using very high contrast thread in different colors top & bottom?
Narration please.

Sandra


On Sun, Feb 25, 2024 at 11:35?AM Bruce Siegmund <bsiegmund01@...> wrote:
Good day, all!

I am now gratefully accepting? input--thoughts, experience, wild guesses--regarding why the thread on our #3 refuses to pass over the bobbin, instead forging its own path underneath.

Here's what I have tried so far:
Observing the few youtube vids out available;
Searching this group for hints (haven't been able to tease anything out, so please point out known threads that I have missed);
Securing the bobbin thread to the small rod under the cloth plate;
Not securing the bobbin thread beneath the plate;
Tilting the machine (which resulted in one correct motion);
Adjusting the ring slide to be progressively looser or tighter;
Holding the upper thread when starting out;
Not holding the upper thread when starting out;
Adjusting the upper thread tension;
Stringing certain words together in interesting arrangements.

The machine is 1860 vintage. Could the hook simply be worn out?

Thanks in advance,
Ziggy in Maine



--
Sandra W. Haak
Phone (cell) 801-201-5331
?


 

I guess I wasn¡¯t clear. I was hoping for video of the offending machine and with the thread I suggested so I and others could try to see where the stitch went wrong.

Maybe your question has already been answered.

Sandra W. Haak
Phone (cell) 801-201-5331
?


On Sun, Feb 25, 2024 at 11:35?AM Bruce Siegmund <bsiegmund01@...> wrote:
Good day, all!

I am now gratefully accepting? input--thoughts, experience, wild guesses--regarding why the thread on our #3 refuses to pass over the bobbin, instead forging its own path underneath.

Here's what I have tried so far:
Observing the few youtube vids out available;
Searching this group for hints (haven't been able to tease anything out, so please point out known threads that I have missed);
Securing the bobbin thread to the small rod under the cloth plate;
Not securing the bobbin thread beneath the plate;
Tilting the machine (which resulted in one correct motion);
Adjusting the ring slide to be progressively looser or tighter;
Holding the upper thread when starting out;
Not holding the upper thread when starting out;
Adjusting the upper thread tension;
Stringing certain words together in interesting arrangements.

The machine is 1860 vintage. Could the hook simply be worn out?

Thanks in advance,
Ziggy in Maine


 

I would put a video together if I thought it would be useful. Fact is, it's hard to see the offending area due to the design of the thing:? the ring and bobbin obscure what is happening with the hook.? Trust me, I've tried to see back there! But the previously attached photo gives a pretty good idea of what's happening: the thread does not come off of the hook and pass over the bobbin as it should, even though timing is correct, brush placement appears to be correct, hook is not damaged or severely worn, etc.?

The only other thing I can think of is that the bobbins themselves are misshapen somehow, but there are 5 of them and it's doubtful that they're all askew...or not!

On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 5:47?PM Sandra Haak <swhaak@...> wrote:
I guess I wasn¡¯t clear. I was hoping for video of the offending machine and with the thread I suggested so I and others could try to see where the stitch went wrong.

Maybe your question has already been answered.

Sandra W. Haak
Phone (cell) 801-201-5331
?


On Sun, Feb 25, 2024 at 11:35?AM Bruce Siegmund <bsiegmund01@...> wrote:
Good day, all!

I am now gratefully accepting? input--thoughts, experience, wild guesses--regarding why the thread on our #3 refuses to pass over the bobbin, instead forging its own path underneath.

Here's what I have tried so far:
Observing the few youtube vids out available;
Searching this group for hints (haven't been able to tease anything out, so please point out known threads that I have missed);
Securing the bobbin thread to the small rod under the cloth plate;
Not securing the bobbin thread beneath the plate;
Tilting the machine (which resulted in one correct motion);
Adjusting the ring slide to be progressively looser or tighter;
Holding the upper thread when starting out;
Not holding the upper thread when starting out;
Adjusting the upper thread tension;
Stringing certain words together in interesting arrangements.

The machine is 1860 vintage. Could the hook simply be worn out?

Thanks in advance,
Ziggy in Maine