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Re: For Sale: WW D-9 in Wreath Parlor and D-9 Geared Hand Crank

 

Outstanding.? I live nearby (starts with a B and is west of you ?) but neither would have fit into my collection (moratorium on tables and focused on TS hand cranks or much older machines) but happy that you found them a home.
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Calvin Armerding
Chair, International Sewing Machine Collectors Society

"Bother" said Pooh, as he connected at 14.4kbps


Re: For Sale: WW D-9 in Wreath Parlor and D-9 Geared Hand Crank

 

Thank you to everyone who expressed interest in my two W&W machines.? A couple of very fine young women are now going to ensure that they continue to contribute to history.? I could not be happier.
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Jacqueline


Re: For Sale: WW D-9 in Wreath Parlor and D-9 Geared Hand Crank

 

Hi Jaqueline, can't help with the sale, but they are gorgeous machines, especially that parlor cabinet. Hope it goes to a good home.?
Best wishes from Massachusetts!
Lisa W

On Mar 30, 2025 4:32 PM, "BreadArtist via groups.io" <breadartist@...> wrote:
I joined this group ages ago when Daddy Dean from Quebec and Miller from Tennessee were my heroes.? ?They were never too busy to answer questions and share their knowledge and enthusiasm.??
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I saw that my photo album for my "W&W D-9 Parlor Cabinet" still existed as it was moved by Daddy Dean when this W&W group transitioned to Groups.io.? Today, I added a second album for my "W&W D-9 Geared Hand Crank" as well.
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I live in WA state 100 miles directly north of Seattle and I would like to sell both of these machines.? I am hopeful that someone in this group might be interested.? Local pickup would be best for both items, especially the wreath bearing parlor cabinet.?
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Please check out the W&W "Photos" directory by sorting on "date updated" and they will appear side by side as I updated them on 3/29/2025 and 3/30/2025.
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Thank you for looking, Jacqueline


Re: For Sale: WW D-9 in Wreath Parlor and D-9 Geared Hand Crank

 

Jacqueline, I am interested in the hand crank D9.
you can reach me via email: jfwrobel@... or phone 831 801 8114.

Thanks,
John Wrobel

On Sunday, March 30, 2025 at 01:32:14 PM PDT, BreadArtist via groups.io <breadartist@...> wrote:


I joined this group ages ago when Daddy Dean from Quebec and Miller from Tennessee were my heroes.? ?They were never too busy to answer questions and share their knowledge and enthusiasm.??
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I saw that my photo album for my "W&W D-9 Parlor Cabinet" still existed as it was moved by Daddy Dean when this W&W group transitioned to Groups.io.? Today, I added a second album for my "W&W D-9 Geared Hand Crank" as well.
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I live in WA state 100 miles directly north of Seattle and I would like to sell both of these machines.? I am hopeful that someone in this group might be interested.? Local pickup would be best for both items, especially the wreath bearing parlor cabinet.?
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Please check out the W&W "Photos" directory by sorting on "date updated" and they will appear side by side as I updated them on 3/29/2025 and 3/30/2025.
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Thank you for looking, Jacqueline


For Sale: WW D-9 in Wreath Parlor and D-9 Geared Hand Crank

 

I joined this group ages ago when Daddy Dean from Quebec and Miller from Tennessee were my heroes.? ?They were never too busy to answer questions and share their knowledge and enthusiasm.??
?
I saw that my photo album for my "W&W D-9 Parlor Cabinet" still existed as it was moved by Daddy Dean when this W&W group transitioned to Groups.io.? Today, I added a second album for my "W&W D-9 Geared Hand Crank" as well.
?
I live in WA state 100 miles directly north of Seattle and I would like to sell both of these machines.? I am hopeful that someone in this group might be interested.? Local pickup would be best for both items, especially the wreath bearing parlor cabinet.?
?
Please check out the W&W "Photos" directory by sorting on "date updated" and they will appear side by side as I updated them on 3/29/2025 and 3/30/2025.
?
Thank you for looking, Jacqueline


Re: welcome new members!

 

I'm certainly glad I spoke up! John -- that no.5 is fanstastic! So,
it can sew the side seam on a sleeve, but not the cuff. Usually it's
the other way, right (unless you have a 29-4 ;-), so that's pretty
cool.

And I have to confess, I can't decide which I'm more interested in:
pictures of Ozzwill's hot rod Fords, or Josh's leather chaps! :-)
Clearly we need both! Plus the results of Agatha's road trip, of
course.

Nice to hear from you all.

For my own part, as much as I love all three of my W&W machines
(numbers 9, 8, and 3, of course), I sure don't spend enough time with
them. Maybe I just need to invest in more bobbins, to reduce
the temptation of "just grab a singer 15 bobbin for the Necchi", or
"just grab a spool" for the chain stitchers, or "it's a boot patcher,
of course black thread is fine!". If I had a couple of Wheeler
bobbins in neutral thread already wound for all three machines, I'll
bet they'd get used more. Sounds like a project all in itself.

Josh -- what kind of needles did you get for your 9? As far as I recall,
the Singer 9 takes a 127x1 (or modern MY1014) just like the other #9
models.

paul
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paul fox, pgf@... (arlington, ma, where it's 31.0 degrees)


W&W #5 Free-arm treadle, ca 1865

 

Paul's note welcoming new members prompted me to finally post some pictures of an unusual W&W in our collection - the #5 free-arm. ?This machine has a serial number dating it to ca 1865, according to Grace Rogers Cooper's work. ?The machine is based on the earlier design of the curved-needle #1 and #3 machines, but the front and back horizontal shafts have been extended to allow it to function as a free-arm. ?It uses the same rotating hook and bobbin as the #1/#3 machines. ?Pictures have been added in the photos section. ?(Didn't get them loaded in quite the intended order! ?Please refer to the number preceding the name for the order in which they were intended to be seen.)
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What's a bit unusual about the machine is that the orientation of the presser-foot and feed is unchanged from the original #1/#3 design. ?It still feeds from left to right. ?So, in practice, the operator has to feed the work (a sleeve lets say) onto the free-arm (under the presser foot), before starting to sew. ?If there's another way to operate this machine, I have yet to figure it out. ?A short video clip showing this machine in action can be found on You-Tube:
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Photos show the machine and the treadle after conservation. ?The gold accents on the treadle irons are original. If anyone knows of another example of this machine, would love to hear about it. ??


Photo Notifications #photo-notice

Group Notification
 

John Lowrey <john_p_lowrey@...> added the photo album John's W&W #5 free-arm on original treadle : This machine was based on the earlier design of the curved-needle W&W #1 & #2 machine. One can see from the top view pictures with the covers removed, the free-arm was made possible by extending the front and back shafts of the earlier #1/#3 design. This machine bears a serial number dating to approximately 1865 (per Grace Rogers Cooper). Link to video of machine in operation: https://youtu.be/DIaKT75HuoY


The following photos have been uploaded to the John's W&W #5 free-arm on original treadle photo album of the [email protected] group.

By: John Lowrey <john_p_lowrey@...>


Hello from SoCal

 

I am a new guy here after starting my collection a few years ago when I retired (2018). I currently have 21 various vintage machines, mostly treadles and I sew on them routinely. Most of my machines were gifted to me, some are ¡°rescues¡± and some just purchased because their sub-$50 price tag was impossible to resist. Everything I own came to me in a sad state, very few required just cleaning and oiling.?
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I am 77 years old and a former classic car/ hot rod guy that earlier in life competed in motorsports of different types. I always built my own stuff, fabricated what ever I needed. I still have my original hot rod, a 1935 Ford that is a daily driver, my wife has a 1923 Ford hot rod truck with a flathead V-8 that she built. My shop setup now leans toward my sewing machine passion¡­.no more heavy car parts.?
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I plan to learn as much as possible with my entry into this expert filled group.
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Thank you,
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Oscar AKA Ozzwill


Re: welcome new members!

 

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Hello I'm Teresa I've been sewing since I was about 6 years old . I just got my Wheeler and Willson treadle 1868 even found some needles that adapt.? Soon I'll make my first treadle quilt. I've been quilting for about 50 years. Never made one on a treadle machine. I'm in for a challenge.

Teresa Orr


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Josh black via groups.io <dragonweaver1982@...>
Sent: Friday, February 28, 2025 1:04:36 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Wheeler_and_Wilson-Sewing-Machines] welcome new members!
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Aloha all,

I'm Josh & I live in Hawai'i. I've been sewing since middle school about 30 years ago & finally got my 1st treadle sewing machine as a bday present. It's a wheeler & wilson D9 with singer printing & original table & one needle & one bagle ufo bobbin. Just got new needles in hopes that the shank will be small enough to replace the original rusy needle till i can clean it. Getting ready to make bergandy leather chap pants with no inseam I'll post a picture of my sewing machine & chap pants when i start sewing them up.


On Fri, Feb 28, 2025, 10:12 AM Agatha Harkness via <lacunasubs=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Paul!?

I'm not a fan of FB, so I'm here, instead. ??

I've been sewing for many many years but collecting machines only since 2016. I try to be selective due to space. I have 40ish machines, only 2 are duplicates, 15 have tables. I got rid of my modern machine several years ago once I realized it was literally collecting dust.?

I have a 1909 Singer 9W treadle (bagel bobbin with W&W serial number), an 1872 W&W #3, head only, that had been parted out before I got it, and an 1869 #3 compete in table.

I'm focusing more on portables atm due to space, but I can fit in a few more tables if needs arise. I can't say no to some!

I'm going on a road trip soon. I'll be picking up a few portables that are waiting for me in a couple different states. Who knows what else I may find along the way?

On Fri, Feb 28, 2025, 1:55?PM Paul Fox via <pgf=[email protected]> wrote:
Don't worry -- I won't call you out by name, and make you stand up
and tell us about yourselves.? ;-)

But if you feel like introducing yourself, and as importantly, a machine
or two, I'll bet no one here would mind!? It's not like we're suffering
from too much traffic.? :-) :-/? And we all like looking at pictures.

(It really does seem like FB has sucked much of the life out of mailing
lists / forums like this one.? You'd never know there are almost 450
subscribers here!)

paul


Re: welcome new members!

 

Aloha all,

I'm Josh & I live in Hawai'i. I've been sewing since middle school about 30 years ago & finally got my 1st treadle sewing machine as a bday present. It's a wheeler & wilson D9 with singer printing & original table & one needle & one bagle ufo bobbin. Just got new needles in hopes that the shank will be small enough to replace the original rusy needle till i can clean it. Getting ready to make bergandy leather chap pants with no inseam I'll post a picture of my sewing machine & chap pants when i start sewing them up.


On Fri, Feb 28, 2025, 10:12 AM Agatha Harkness via <lacunasubs=[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Paul!?

I'm not a fan of FB, so I'm here, instead. ??

I've been sewing for many many years but collecting machines only since 2016. I try to be selective due to space. I have 40ish machines, only 2 are duplicates, 15 have tables. I got rid of my modern machine several years ago once I realized it was literally collecting dust.?

I have a 1909 Singer 9W treadle (bagel bobbin with W&W serial number), an 1872 W&W #3, head only, that had been parted out before I got it, and an 1869 #3 compete in table.

I'm focusing more on portables atm due to space, but I can fit in a few more tables if needs arise. I can't say no to some!

I'm going on a road trip soon. I'll be picking up a few portables that are waiting for me in a couple different states. Who knows what else I may find along the way?

On Fri, Feb 28, 2025, 1:55?PM Paul Fox via <pgf=[email protected]> wrote:
Don't worry -- I won't call you out by name, and make you stand up
and tell us about yourselves.? ;-)

But if you feel like introducing yourself, and as importantly, a machine
or two, I'll bet no one here would mind!? It's not like we're suffering
from too much traffic.? :-) :-/? And we all like looking at pictures.

(It really does seem like FB has sucked much of the life out of mailing
lists / forums like this one.? You'd never know there are almost 450
subscribers here!)

paul


Re: welcome new members!

 

Hi Paul!?

I'm not a fan of FB, so I'm here, instead. ??

I've been sewing for many many years but collecting machines only since 2016. I try to be selective due to space. I have 40ish machines, only 2 are duplicates, 15 have tables. I got rid of my modern machine several years ago once I realized it was literally collecting dust.?

I have a 1909 Singer 9W treadle (bagel bobbin with W&W serial number), an 1872 W&W #3, head only, that had been parted out before I got it, and an 1869 #3 compete in table.

I'm focusing more on portables atm due to space, but I can fit in a few more tables if needs arise. I can't say no to some!

I'm going on a road trip soon. I'll be picking up a few portables that are waiting for me in a couple different states. Who knows what else I may find along the way?


On Fri, Feb 28, 2025, 1:55?PM Paul Fox via <pgf=[email protected]> wrote:
Don't worry -- I won't call you out by name, and make you stand up
and tell us about yourselves.? ;-)

But if you feel like introducing yourself, and as importantly, a machine
or two, I'll bet no one here would mind!? It's not like we're suffering
from too much traffic.? :-) :-/? And we all like looking at pictures.

(It really does seem like FB has sucked much of the life out of mailing
lists / forums like this one.? You'd never know there are almost 450
subscribers here!)

paul


welcome new members!

 

Don't worry -- I won't call you out by name, and make you stand up
and tell us about yourselves. ;-)

But if you feel like introducing yourself, and as importantly, a machine
or two, I'll bet no one here would mind! It's not like we're suffering
from too much traffic. :-) :-/ And we all like looking at pictures.

(It really does seem like FB has sucked much of the life out of mailing
lists / forums like this one. You'd never know there are almost 450
subscribers here!)

paul
=----------------------
paul fox, pgf@... (arlington, ma, where it's 43.0 degrees)


Re: D9

 


Hi Deb you are correct, the Boye 18 or 127x1. I also have Groz-Beckert 10 that work as well in my D9.?


From: "Deb via groups.io" <brookstonegsp2@...>
To: "Wheeler and Wilson-Sewing-Machines" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, 20 December, 2024 08:40:57
Subject: Re: [Wheeler_and_Wilson-Sewing-Machines] D9

I have some packed away. Just need to find them. No problem sending you a few if you like. I'm working? now. I believe they take a Boye18 or 127x1. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
Deb
brookstonegsp2@...?


On Fri, Dec 20, 2024 at 10:28 AM, Helen Howes
<helen@...> wrote:
On Fri, Dec 20, 2024 at 03:23 PM, leah dockter wrote:
I just found my grandmother¡¯s D9. It¡¯s pretty complete, but no needle. What kind do I need? Thanks for any info.
Regular needles are No Longer Available, but I find a DBx1 (commonly available) will work just find, if perhaps lowered very slightly in the needle clamp
HH


Re: D9

 

I have some packed away. Just need to find them. No problem sending you a few if you like. I'm working? now. I believe they take a Boye18 or 127x1. Someone will correct me if I'm wrong.
Deb
brookstonegsp2@...?


On Fri, Dec 20, 2024 at 10:28 AM, Helen Howes
<helen@...> wrote:
On Fri, Dec 20, 2024 at 03:23 PM, leah dockter wrote:
I just found my grandmother¡¯s D9. It¡¯s pretty complete, but no needle. What kind do I need? Thanks for any info.
Regular needles are No Longer Available, but I find a DBx1 (commonly available) will work just find, if perhaps lowered very slightly in the needle clamp
HH


Re: D9

 

On Fri, Dec 20, 2024 at 03:23 PM, leah dockter wrote:
I just found my grandmother¡¯s D9. It¡¯s pretty complete, but no needle. What kind do I need? Thanks for any info.
Regular needles are No Longer Available, but I find a DBx1 (commonly available) will work just find, if perhaps lowered very slightly in the needle clamp
HH


D9

 

I just found my grandmother¡¯s D9. It¡¯s pretty complete, but no needle. What kind do I need? Thanks for any info.


Introduction

 

Hi All!
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I have just one WW, a D12 B. The serial number is 137475. I just finished getting it cleaned and oiled, and it makes a fine stitch. I love the operator position, it is so comfortable to be positioned directly in front of the needle.
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I haven't looks at the threads here yet, but if there is any information on narrowing down the date of production, based on purchase agreements, sales receipts, etc, I'd like to dial in a range more specific than 1887-1905.
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Cheers!
Lori


Re: Needle Clamp Screw Size

 

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Thank you so much! This gives me a starting point.
Cathy



On 11/16/2024 7:24 PM, d.looney via groups.io wrote:

5/32" thick, shaft is 3/8" long, the first 5/32" of the shaft does not have threading and is 3/32" thick.? The remaining 7/32" is threaded with 9 threads.? Attaching a photo.? Hope this helps and best wishes!
Deryl






On Fri, Nov 15, 2024 at 7:16 PM, Cathy Landon via groups.io
Does anyone know what the diameter and thread the needle clamp screw on a D9 is? The one in the clamp on mine has been used so long that the rounded end is now flat and about 1/8" too short. I'd like to find a replacement that will hold the needle in the clamp.
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