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Excelsior Supply Company

Bill Wells
 

Some time ago I saw the images posted by someone of D9 parts in an Excelsior Supply Company catalog.? Does anyone know who owns this catalog?? I would like to contact the owner. Thanks


Re: New acquisition

 

Carol,
Thank you.
I'm constantly trolling for machines and check Craigslist almost every day.? My last three W&W acquisitions (complete machines) came over several years via Craigslist, including this one, a beautiful WW8 and a gorgeous WW3 that was only about a mile from my home.? Old machines are out there! ??


Re: New acquisition

 

Roxy,

What a beautiful cabinet and it¡¯s in such great shape. I keep waiting for a nice one to show up near me. Hope I¡¯m as lucky one day.?

Carol


W&W D9 / Singer 9W Bobbins Available

 

I have some beautiful, newly made Wheeler & Wilson D9 and early Singer 9W bagel bobbins for sale. These were made from steel using a CNC lathe. The bobbins are made from steel. The price is $10 per bobbin. Each is warrantied good. Please email me at JLHMNJ@...

Jon


Re: New acquisition

 

Thank you for the info.? I haven't yet started to research manufacturing dates for this one.


Re: New acquisition

 

I have several W&W treadles, including a 3, two 8's, a 9 and a 9W.? (There are other brands here as well...many others.)? I enjoy tinkering with machines as much as sewing.? Thankfully, I have a large house but even at that, space is becoming a problem.?


Re: New acquisition

 

I? forgot to mention

Tell us more about the 221 or 222 machines in the 2nd picture ;-))

We just bought a 222k in Wales

Just a bit of fun email

I like the oil can I made a small one and keep it less than 1/2 full so it does not leak and I can put it in the tray of a sewing machine.
John

On Tue, 31 May 2022 at 14:42, Roxy via <rgrinnell2010=[email protected]> wrote:
Brought home this cute D9 yesterday.?
W&W's are somewhat rare to find in my area--this is only the fourth decent W&W that I've seen for sale locally in several years.? The machine has some minor cosmetic issues but the mechanics were spinning within 5 minutes of the initial oiling, as expected.? The seller purchased the machine 30 or 40 years ago basically to use the cabinet as a lamp stand.? He was amazed that anyone would really want to sew on it.

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Re: New acquisition

 

Nice machine, congratulations. I see a few other beauties peering out in the background.

It is always funny when sellers look at you in shock when they find out you actually want to sew with the machine. Gasp!

Tammy


Re: New acquisition

Bill Wells
 

A real pretty piece. The W&W company patented this cabinet style in the early 1900s.

On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 10:12 AM Enid Rudyk <enidr@...> wrote:
Nice find!

----- Original Message -----
From: Roxy via <rgrinnell2010=[email protected]>
To: Wheeler and Wilson-Sewing-Machines <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, 31 May 2022 07:42:56 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [Wheeler_and_Wilson-Sewing-Machines] New acquisition

Brought home this cute D9 yesterday.
W&W's are somewhat rare to find in my area--this is only the fourth decent W&W that I've seen for sale locally in several years.? The machine has some minor cosmetic issues but the mechanics were spinning within 5 minutes of the initial oiling, as expected.? The seller purchased the machine 30 or 40 years ago basically to use the cabinet as a lamp stand.? He was amazed that anyone would really want to sew on it.

Attachments:
IMG_3285.JPG: /g/Wheeler_and_Wilson-Sewing-Machines/attachment/4121/0
IMG_3286.JPG
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Bill Wells
ronone69@...


Re: New acquisition

 

Hi

;-) yep I have and 8 and a 9 I love the machines,? mine are in the UK they are hand wind? and are interesting in the way they tension the lower thread by actually griping the thread between plates rather than some sort of bobbin case tension, the hand wheel is different than the USA versions.

I might have a go at making some extra new lower bobbins for them out of copper and solder

I look forward to you sewing something and let us know how you get on.

I have a treadle machine but it is only a cast iron Singer 201 (rotary hook via the WW ?), I am still not used to the treadle and might make a friction device like some of the machines that had a rubber ball to stop it going backwards.

all the best
John

On Tue, 31 May 2022 at 14:42, Roxy via <rgrinnell2010=[email protected]> wrote:
Brought home this cute D9 yesterday.?
W&W's are somewhat rare to find in my area--this is only the fourth decent W&W that I've seen for sale locally in several years.? The machine has some minor cosmetic issues but the mechanics were spinning within 5 minutes of the initial oiling, as expected.? The seller purchased the machine 30 or 40 years ago basically to use the cabinet as a lamp stand.? He was amazed that anyone would really want to sew on it.

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Re: New acquisition

 

Nice find!

----- Original Message -----
From: Roxy via groups.io <rgrinnell2010@...>
To: Wheeler and Wilson-Sewing-Machines <[email protected]>
Sent: Tue, 31 May 2022 07:42:56 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: [Wheeler_and_Wilson-Sewing-Machines] New acquisition

Brought home this cute D9 yesterday.
W&W's are somewhat rare to find in my area--this is only the fourth decent W&W that I've seen for sale locally in several years.? The machine has some minor cosmetic issues but the mechanics were spinning within 5 minutes of the initial oiling, as expected.? The seller purchased the machine 30 or 40 years ago basically to use the cabinet as a lamp stand.? He was amazed that anyone would really want to sew on it.

Attachments:
IMG_3285.JPG: /g/Wheeler_and_Wilson-Sewing-Machines/attachment/4121/0
IMG_3286.JPG: /g/Wheeler_and_Wilson-Sewing-Machines/attachment/4121/1


New acquisition

 

Brought home this cute D9 yesterday.?
W&W's are somewhat rare to find in my area--this is only the fourth decent W&W that I've seen for sale locally in several years.? The machine has some minor cosmetic issues but the mechanics were spinning within 5 minutes of the initial oiling, as expected.? The seller purchased the machine 30 or 40 years ago basically to use the cabinet as a lamp stand.? He was amazed that anyone would really want to sew on it.

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Re: Membership request

 

I hope this reply goes to all,
Such a treat to meet others who share an interest in these wonderful timeless sewing machines. I'll be reading what I can find on the D9/W9 here and elsewhere as well. Thank you for your help with the spring issue. I feel more confident about having a good result knowing you've been there before me successfully.

Already I'm thinking about a W&W12. First, this one gets finished, then I need a treadle base and then I can think about adding a new machine. I've only been at this for a year or two. Time flies. Anyway, I've bought, in order, a 15-91, 101-4, 201-2, 66, and W9 - all needed restored including two cabinets (101, 66). So far it hasn't gotten old. In fact it's gotten better as I got the tools and set up my bench. I'm lucky that my husband enjoys them too a little.
Thank you all again and cheers everyone,
Arishia

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Re: Membership request

 

Wheeler & Wilsons are the Cadillac of sewing machines. They are delightful to use and wonderfully engineered. Those who remember Ray Sew Slow Waganka, know he gave me my first W&W. He told me ¡°You will love this!¡± He was correct.

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I own a few industrial W&Ws (#7, 10W and 12W) as well as the curved needle treadles used by shirt manufacturers, #8s, #9s, D9s and #9Ws. One of my #9Ws uses low shank feet. The adapter and the needle bar do not fit on any of my other W&W machines. This machine lives in a Singer tailor style treadle. The combination treadles like silk.

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W&W manufactured the curved needle sewing machines for 70 years due to manufacturer demand. My 10W must have been dropped and was converted to a hand crank. The take up lever had been broken and the tip was welded/soldered in place.

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A decade ago, I discovered that a Singer tension spring could be adapted to the 9s and 9Ws. The reverse direction of the spring did not cause a problem. I did need to shorten the ¡°elbow¡± for want of a better word. I showed the process at a RR TOGA, Lake City, MN, a gathering of vintage and antique sewing machine collectors and users.

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Phyllis in Iowa


Re: Membership request now spring

 

Wheeler & Wilsons are the Cadillac of sewing machines. They are delightful to use and wonderfully engineered. Those who remember Ray Sew Slow Waganka, know he gave me my first W&W. He told me ¡°You will love this!¡± He was correct.

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I own a few industrial W&Ws (#7, 10W and 12W) as well as the curved needle treadles used by shirt manufacturers, #8s, #9s, D9s and #9Ws. One of my #9Ws uses low shank feet. The adapter and the needle bar do not fit on any of my other W&W machines. This machine lives in a Singer tailor style treadle. The combination treadles like silk.

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W&W manufactured the curved needle sewing machines for 70 years due to manufacturer demand. My 10W must have been dropped and was converted to a hand crank. The take up lever had been broken and the tip was welded/soldered in place.

?

A decade ago, I discovered that a Singer tension spring could be adapted to the 9s and 9Ws. The reverse direction of the spring did not cause a problem. I did need to shorten the ¡°elbow¡± for want of a better word. I showed the process at a RR TOGA, Lake City, MN, a gathering of vintage and antique sewing machine collectors and users.

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Phyllis in Iowa


Re: Membership request

 

Welcome to the group -- glad to hear you're enjoying your #9. I tend
to do more tinkering than sewing as well.

Your spring: I was looking for something else in the group archives
recently and came across a thread discussing using a Singer spring as
a replacement. It's not quite a "drop in" replacement, I think,
because it's wound in the opposite direction from the W&W spring. But
apparently it works, and there are pictures. If you have trouble
finding the thread(s) I'm referring to, let me know.

I have a #9 whose spring is mis-adjusted, and angled such that the
thread won't pass "under" it, but instead keeps jumping to the side.
But in my experimental sewing, it sews just fine, even though the
spring is doing nothing at all. So you shouldn't let your missing
spring delay the "first stitch" event. :-) I'm sure the spring is
important -- it's just not critical.

paul
=----------------------
paul fox, pgf@... (arlington, ma)


Re: Membership request

 

Welcome.
One of my current sayings is that if I collected only one brand of machine, it would be Wheeler & Wilson.? They seem to be fabulously made.?
My 9W was bought on that huge online auction site that we all know and love.? It arrived without a presser foot...which I suspect was because someone in its past didn't want anyone to know that the needle hit the presser foot.? They also didn't know that the problem was basically fixable with the turn of a screw.
I'm with you...I enjoy working on machines more than sewing.? As far as W&W's go, I currently have 5 treadles in good condition along with a variety of orphaned heads and a lovely industrial W&W treadle base.? I'm hoping that more will come.? :-) ? ?

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Membership request

 

Hello W&W group people. I'm late responding as I got caught up with my new
machine, a Singer 9W that I bought from an auction. It was completely
locked up when it arrived so I've had it apart and cleaned, polished and oiled inch by inch as I got familiar with it. The take up spring is broken
but everything else is in order including one needle and one bagel bobbin.
When I arrive at a solution for the spring we'll see if she'll make a
stitch. It's a lovely machine with a fine balanced feel that's different
from my Singers. About me... I prefer tinkering with machines to sewing,
but I'm going to sew something soon. As soon as I get these machines
finished and off the bench.
I'm looking forward to participating in the group.
Arishia
(Cynthia Fuhrman)


Re: Reversing the bobbin winder on a #9

 

Ah, I see I thought I could use a different bobbin. Thank you for clearing that up for me.

----- Original Message -----
From: Paul Fox <pgf@...>
To: Wheeler and Wilson-Sewing-Machines <[email protected]>
Sent: Sun, 24 Apr 2022 14:44:30 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: [Wheeler_and_Wilson-Sewing-Machines] Reversing the bobbin winder on a #9

enid wrote:
> Hi Paul,
> Not a ? Or comment on the winder, but I did notice your bobbin
> appears to be different from my machine, or is it the angel of the
> photo? My bobbins are bagel shaped. Just curiosity mainly!

Hi Enid --

There are no bobbins in either of my pictures. I think what you're
seeing is the winder wheel lying on its side, after being separated
from its axle. That picture has one complete winder, and one
disassembled.

paul
=----------------------
paul fox, pgf@... (arlington, ma)


Re: Reversing the bobbin winder on a #9

 

enid wrote:
> Hi Paul,
> Not a ? Or comment on the winder, but I did notice your bobbin
> appears to be different from my machine, or is it the angel of the
> photo? My bobbins are bagel shaped. Just curiosity mainly!

Hi Enid --

There are no bobbins in either of my pictures. I think what you're
seeing is the winder wheel lying on its side, after being separated
from its axle. That picture has one complete winder, and one
disassembled.

paul
=----------------------
paul fox, pgf@... (arlington, ma)