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Re: D9
Thank you for this information on the difference between a 9 and and D9. I don¡¯t have a manual yet and haven¡¯t had much time to work on this machine. Hopefully, after the holidays, I'll have a chance to clean up and get her stitching.?
Kathy
¡®May the source of strength, who¡¯s blessed the ones before us, help us find the courage to make our lives a blessing.¡¯
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Re: D9
Hi Kathy; If the serial number you gave is complete you have a #9 & not a -9. All D-9 machines have a 7 digit SN beginning with a 2. You only show 6 digits in your number & it begins with a 1. Further the right slide plate on a D-9 is marked D-9. The main change from the #9 to the D-9 was in the bobbin arrangement. The #9 has the hinged bobbin holder, or Drop, as W&W called it with a removable bobbin case while the D-9 had a built in Case which was not normally removed for bobbin changes. The #9 was made from 1887-18*95 & the D-9 from 1895-1905. The method for estimating the date is for the D-9. I would estimate?your machine as 1891-92.?? Miller/TN |
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Re: D9
I finally have been able to make out the number on the needle plate - or whatever is the correct name for this part of the machine. 142410.? Looks like this part will need an Evaporust bath to reveal more information. Remember reading about a way to estimate the age of the machine, since accurate records are not available like Singers. ?
Going to grab some sewing machine oil and see if these decals are worn away or just covered with crud. Amazing to see a machine of this age retain so much beauty and - hopefully - the ability to sew a nice stitch.?
I sure appreciate all the information from this group. Thank you so very much!
Warm regards,
Kathy Livingston
May all your ups & downs in life be with needle & thread.
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Re: D9
Hello, ? We have a D9 here but it's a hand crank with a wooden case.? We also have two no 8 hand cranks with cases.? The wood splits after 100 years plus.? we rebuilt and I backed the "wrong side" where it cannot be seen with fiberglass cloth and epoxy resin to give it the strength it really needed.? ?This was after repairing the splits in the wood.? The case on the no 8 is very nice now.? I have done nothing to the d9 case yet but the one no 8 really needed to be done over.? Also, I will mention on the 8's I've seen the cast iron beds crack sometimes maybe from being forced around with a broken wooden case.? The cast iron is thinner than what I see on Singers.? Mine came with a repair that dates the repair but it is a very fine machine and was done very well so not really very visible from the "right side". Best regards, Mike
On Tuesday, November 12, 2019, 02:25:13 PM GMT+8, Carol Weaver <starweaver.cw@...> wrote:
When I brought my Wheeler and Wilson D-9 home I took all sorts of tools to take it out of the cabinet. Then I discovered a release lever and easily removed the head. Mine is a drop in so that the sewing machine head goes back into the cabinet while you aren't using it. ? ? ? ? Carol W from northern California On Nov 11, 2019 5:22 AM, "Kathy Liv via Groups.Io" <kmliving=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: D9
While I would have preferred a drop in cabinet, I wonder if this machine is an older Wheeler and Wilson, made before drop in cabinets were added to their production line. Or maybe the coffin top cabinet was the less expensive cabinet choice than the drop in? I don¡¯t have any info about the provenance of this machine. Wish it could talk! What stories!
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Re: D9
When I brought my Wheeler and Wilson D-9 home I took all sorts of tools to take it out of the cabinet. Then I discovered a release lever and easily removed the head. Mine is a drop in so that the sewing machine head goes back into the cabinet while you aren't using it. ? ? ? ? Carol W from northern California On Nov 11, 2019 5:22 AM, "Kathy Liv via Groups.Io" <kmliving=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: D9
Thanks you for such complete information on getting my D9 treadle home safely. I ¡°lucked¡± in to this machine at a friend¡¯s yard sale a couple miles from my home.? As you noted, the D9 is incredibly easy to remove from the treadle base. We gently pulled the head off and nestled it in a moving pad in the cab along w the coffin top. The treadle was carefully lifted in the back of the truck and tied down for the short, slow ride home.? At any rate - sure is fun to get to know other Wheeler and Wilson owners. Thank you for your advice.? Warm regards, |
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Re: D9
Kathy, et al.,
I would submit that one of your first concerns regarding the "new" D9 is to consider how it will be transported from it's previous home. Many vintage treadle sewing machines have been damaged in shipment. In some cases it has been irreparable damage. Often this occurs in commercial shipments when there is insufficient packing/padding and bracing. However, the same considerations apply when transporting a treadle sewing machine in a private truck, van or automobile. At the very least it is recommended that the sewing machine head be removed from the table-and-leg assembly prior to transporting them to their new location. The point is that the hinges, screws, wooden table and cast iron legs, upon which a treadle sewing machine is mounted, is no match for a 35 pound sewing machine bouncing up and down during the transportation process. This is especially true for drop head style machines. The D9 is perhaps one of the easiest to separate from its base. In this case one can simply tip the machine slightly upward and rearward and then slide it off of the posts which are part of the hinges. No tools required. In other cases, there may be anywhere from 4 to 6 screws that need to be removed so that the hinges may be separated from the table top. Once separated, the two components can be individually padded and braced for a safe road trip. On the other hand, packing a treadle sewing machine for commercial transportation or shipment by air requires additional care and preparation. Which could be covered in a subsequent email. Safe journey. Ken in Missouri Caretaker of 3 D9's on treadle bases |
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Re: D9
Sure appreciate the offer. I'll be in touch. Thank you so much! Kathy Livingston
May all your ups & downs in life be with needle & thread.
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From: William L Vanderburg <Army30th@...> To: Wheeler_and_Wilson-Sewing-Machines <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, Nov 10, 2019 3:01 pm Subject: Re: [Wheeler_and_Wilson-Sewing-Machines] D9 I live in the middle of NJ and own four Wheeler & Wilson machines, treadles and handcrank.? I might be of help.
Will V
On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 11:48 AM Kathy Liv via Groups.Io <kmliving=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: D9
William L Vanderburg
I live in the middle of NJ and own four Wheeler & Wilson machines, treadles and handcrank.? I might be of help. Will V On Sun, Nov 10, 2019 at 11:48 AM Kathy Liv via Groups.Io <kmliving=[email protected]> wrote:
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Re: I found a w+w no.8
The W&W #8, #9, D-9 & Singer 9W all have the same dimensions for the feet. Technically there are some minor differences in the way they fasten, The #8 machine however can use any of them with the "Exception" of any which use a driving arm, such as the ruffler. The drive arm on the #9, D-9 & 9W goes to the left of the needlebar, on the #8 it goes to the right so these will not interchange unless a drive adapter is made. The shank of the #8 was designed so that the clamping screw had to be entirely removed to interchange, the others were all designed so the screw could be loosened & the foot changed from the side. On the #9 the foot was removed or installed from the right, on the D-9 & 9W to the left. By some manipulation however they will all interchange. ? Miller/TN |
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Re: Date of Scientific American article?
helen wrote:
> Hey there, Miller and Daddy Dean, do you know the date of the > Scientific American article reproduced in PDF uploaded on 12/13/15 > on this site? It looks like it was uploaded by Steve Heeter, who's still a member of the list. I've cc'ed him, to help ensure he sees this. (Steve is also very active on his (excellent) forum, victoriansweatshop.com, if he doesn't respond.) paul =---------------------- paul fox, pgf@... (arlington, ma, where it's 45.0 degrees) |