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Hi:
?
Here's that '31 Henderson again.
?
Ruari
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Close, but no suicide shifter... I thought only Harleys and Indians had the suicide shifter...
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Here's that '31 Henderson again.
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Ruari
Rrrose.
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I don't know if all are aware of what a "suicide shifter" or more correctly suicide clutch ?was.? It was where the over-center spring was removed from the heel and toe rocker peddle so that it wasn't bi-stable. as designed.? You had to maintain toe pressure on the front part to keep it clutched in gear and you were in a heap 'o hurt if you overbalanced at a stoplight and had to remove your foot from the clutch.?? Keith Williams
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Close, but no suicide shifter... I thought only Harleys and Indians had the suicide shifter...
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?
Here's that '31 Henderson again.
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Ruari
Rrrose.
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Errr...? Despite my vast knowledge of other
fields, I'm still groping my way in bikes - what's a suicide
shifter??? Jake making the wrong bikini joke?
?
Ruari
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Close, but no suicide
shifter... I thought only Harleys and Indians had the suicide
shifter...
In a message dated 7/12/2007 6:07:05 PM Eastern Daylight
Time, r.mclennan@... writes:
Hi:
?
Here's that '31 Henderson
again.
?
Ruari
Rrrose.
@>-->--
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Most of the early motorcycles had them, at least early American motorcycles..my book on American motorcycles features over 100 makes..I left it at my brothers house where I cannot look at it right now, but I do remember seeing the foot clutch/hand shift on many of them..I think technically, it has to be the spring loaded foot clutch and not the "see-saw" type to be an actual suicide clutch, but having a foot operated clutch on a motorcycle doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.
We didn't start getting hand clutch/foot shift in USA made motorcycles until after WWII. The HDs made under license by a Japanese company made the change before the licensor ever considered it, and the original Springfield Indian (which owned Henderson) went to its grave with foot clutches.
Suicide shifts were the spring loaded foot clutch, hand shift guys.
James Franklin
2411 Pine Summit DR. E
Jacksonville, Florida 32211
808-225-0994 (cell)
From: Ruari McLennan <r.mclennan@...>
Reply-To: W650riders@...
To: W650riders@...
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Henderson
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 20:53:10 -0700
Errr... Despite my vast knowledge of other fields, I'm still groping my way in bikes - what's a suicide shifter? Jake making the wrong bikini joke?
Ruari
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Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Henderson
Close, but no suicide shifter... I thought only Harleys and Indians had the suicide shifter...
In a message dated 7/12/2007 6:07:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, r.mclennan@... writes:
Hi:
Here's that '31 Henderson again.
Ruari
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Thanks for the primer, James. How did the hand shift work, exactly? Twist shifting?
And on another unrelated topic, I vaguely recall my Dad telling me some bikes had a hand operated timing advance control lever for descending hills etc., but I didn't listen well enough, do you know what proportion pre- 1960 had them? And UK or Britbikes?
Ruari
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----- Original Message ----- From: "James Franklin" <jimw650@...> To: <W650riders@...> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [W650riders] Henderson Most of the early motorcycles had them, at least early American
motorcycles..my book on American motorcycles features over 100 makes..I left
it at my brothers house where I cannot look at it right now, but I do
remember seeing the foot clutch/hand shift on many of them..I think
technically, it has to be the spring loaded foot clutch and not the
"see-saw" type to be an actual suicide clutch, but having a foot operated
clutch on a motorcycle doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.
We didn't start getting hand clutch/foot shift in USA made motorcycles until
after WWII. The HDs made under license by a Japanese company made the
change before the licensor ever considered it, and the original Springfield
Indian (which owned Henderson) went to its grave with foot clutches.
Suicide shifts were the spring loaded foot clutch, hand shift guys.
James Franklin
2411 Pine Summit DR. E
Jacksonville, Florida 32211
808-225-0994 (cell)
From: Ruari McLennan <r.mclennan@...>
Reply-To: W650riders@...
To: W650riders@...
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Henderson
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 20:53:10 -0700
Errr... Despite my vast knowledge of other fields, I'm still groping my way
in bikes - what's a suicide shifter? Jake making the wrong bikini joke?
Ruari
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To: W650riders@...
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Henderson
Close, but no suicide shifter... I thought only Harleys and Indians had
the suicide shifter...
In a message dated 7/12/2007 6:07:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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Hi:
Here's that '31 Henderson again.
Ruari
Rrrose.
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Thanks, Keith, do you mean you actually had to keep the pressure on while riding down the road? Ruari --- In W650riders@..., Keith Williams <kwilliams1936@...> wrote:
I don't know if all are aware of what a "suicide shifter" or more
correctly suicide clutch was. It was where the over-center spring was removed from the heel and toe rocker peddle so that it wasn't bi- stable. as designed. You had to maintain toe pressure on the front part to keep it clutched in gear and you were in a heap 'o hurt if you overbalanced at a stoplight and had to remove your foot from the clutch. Keith Williams
Tachokay@... wrote: Close, but no suicide shifter... I
thought only Harleys and Indians had the suicide shifter...
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Hi:
Here's that '31 Henderson again.
Ruari
Rrrose.
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The hand operated advance/retard lever was common on Brit bikes before the development of the spring loaded auto-advance mechanism. You set it retarded for starting, minimising kick-backs and ensuring a slow, lazy tick-over from cold, and advanced it for fast running. You could also retard the ignition to slog up hills, which was ideal if you were pulling a chair with the family on board!
Jon
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Thanks for the primer, James. How did the hand shift work, exactly? Twist
shifting?
And on another unrelated topic, I vaguely recall my Dad telling me some
bikes had a hand operated timing advance control lever for descending hills
etc., but I didn't listen well enough, do you know what proportion pre-
1960 had them? And UK or Britbikes?
Ruari
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From: "James Franklin" <jimw650@...>
To: <W650riders@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Henderson
Most of the early motorcycles had them, at least early American
motorcycles..my book on American motorcycles features over 100 makes..I
left
it at my brothers house where I cannot look at it right now, but I do
remember seeing the foot clutch/hand shift on many of them..I think
technically, it has to be the spring loaded foot clutch and not the
"see-saw" type to be an actual suicide clutch, but having a foot operated
clutch on a motorcycle doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.
We didn't start getting hand clutch/foot shift in USA made motorcycles
until
after WWII. The HDs made under license by a Japanese company made the
change before the licensor ever considered it, and the original
Springfield
Indian (which owned Henderson) went to its grave with foot clutches.
Suicide shifts were the spring loaded foot clutch, hand shift guys.
James Franklin
2411 Pine Summit DR. E
Jacksonville, Florida 32211
808-225-0994 (cell)
From: Ruari McLennan <r.mclennan@...>
Reply-To: W650riders@...
To: W650riders@...
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Henderson
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 20:53:10 -0700
Errr... Despite my vast knowledge of other fields, I'm still groping my
way
in bikes - what's a suicide shifter? Jake making the wrong bikini joke?
Ruari
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From: Tachokay@...
To: W650riders@...
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Henderson
Close, but no suicide shifter... I thought only Harleys and Indians had
the suicide shifter...
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Hi:
Here's that '31 Henderson again.
Ruari
Rrrose.
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To operate the hand shift..
You start the bike by kicking it through, control grip opposite the throttle, operated in a similer way as the throttle..retard to start, then advance as you pick up speed..cars and bikes advance automatically now of course.
While pressing down on the clutch with your left foot, you would select first by pushing the gear shift forward with your hand, the lever was on one side of the tank (Harley, I believe, had a left hand shift, right hand throttle, Indian..a right hand shift, left hand throttle..anyway, I would remember better had I ever operated one, but I only read about it..and thought the foot clutch thing was a stupid idea, so I really didn't retain the info all that well). Each of the successive gears was selected by pulling the lever back..most had three..some had a reverse as side cars were very common then.
James Franklin
2411 Pine Summit DR. E
Jacksonville, Florida 32211
808-225-0994 (cell)
From: Ruari McLennan <r.mclennan@...>
Reply-To: W650riders@...
To: W650riders@...
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Henderson
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:17:19 -0700
Thanks for the primer, James. How did the hand shift work, exactly? Twist
shifting?
And on another unrelated topic, I vaguely recall my Dad telling me some
bikes had a hand operated timing advance control lever for descending hills
etc., but I didn't listen well enough, do you know what proportion pre-
1960 had them? And UK or Britbikes?
Ruari
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----- Original Message ----- From: "James Franklin" <jimw650@...> To: <W650riders@...> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [W650riders] Henderson Most of the early motorcycles had them, at least early American
motorcycles..my book on American motorcycles features over 100 makes..I
left
it at my brothers house where I cannot look at it right now, but I do
remember seeing the foot clutch/hand shift on many of them..I think
technically, it has to be the spring loaded foot clutch and not the
"see-saw" type to be an actual suicide clutch, but having a foot operated
clutch on a motorcycle doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.
We didn't start getting hand clutch/foot shift in USA made motorcycles
until
after WWII. The HDs made under license by a Japanese company made the
change before the licensor ever considered it, and the original
Springfield
Indian (which owned Henderson) went to its grave with foot clutches.
Suicide shifts were the spring loaded foot clutch, hand shift guys.
James Franklin
2411 Pine Summit DR. E
Jacksonville, Florida 32211
808-225-0994 (cell)
From: Ruari McLennan <r.mclennan@...>
Reply-To: W650riders@...
To: W650riders@...
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Henderson
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 20:53:10 -0700
Errr... Despite my vast knowledge of other fields, I'm still groping my
way
in bikes - what's a suicide shifter? Jake making the wrong bikini joke?
Ruari
----- Original Message -----
From: Tachokay@...
To: W650riders@...
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Henderson
Close, but no suicide shifter... I thought only Harleys and Indians had
the suicide shifter...
In a message dated 7/12/2007 6:07:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
r.mclennan@... writes:
Hi:
Here's that '31 Henderson again.
Ruari
Rrrose.
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CAROLE Nash, the lady who owns the big UK bike insurance broker
owns a fire truck red one like that¡.
?
?
Larry Botheras
?
Essex UK
W650 Wrench
2007 Moto Guzzi Norge
1977 KH400
1978 CD175
1994 Ural Solo
?
?
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Sent: 12 July 2007 23:05
To: W650 Riders
Subject: [W650riders] Henderson
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Here's
that '31 Henderson again.
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As a point of drivel info---the Indian was popular with cops because the left throttle allowed them to fire their guns right-handed.? The rocker clutch was also on the left as on Hardley.which had a left shift
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To operate the hand shift.. You start the bike by kicking it through, control grip opposite the throttle, operated in a similer way as the throttle..retard to start, then advance as you pick up speed..cars and bikes advance automatically now of
course. While pressing down on the clutch with your left foot, you would select first by pushing the gear shift forward with your hand, the lever was on one side of the tank (Harley, I believe, had a left hand shift, right hand throttle, Indian..a right hand shift, left hand throttle..anyway, I would remember better had I ever operated one, but I only read about it..and thought the foot clutch thing was a stupid idea, so I really didn't retain the info all that well). Each of the successive gears was selected by pulling the lever back..most had three..some had a reverse as side cars were very common then. James Franklin 2411 Pine Summit DR. E Jacksonville, Florida 32211 808-225-0994 (cell) From: Ruari McLennan < r.mclennan@shaw.ca> Reply-To: W650riders@yahoogroups.comTo: W650riders@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [W650riders] Henderson Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:17:19 -0700 Thanks for the primer, James. How did the hand shift work, exactly? Twist shifting? And on another unrelated topic, I vaguely recall my Dad telling me some bikes had a hand operated timing advance control lever for descending hills etc., but I didn't listen well enough, do you know what proportion pre- 1960 had them? And UK or Britbikes? Ruari ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Franklin" < jimw650@hotmail.com> To: < W650riders@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [W650riders] Henderson > Most of the early motorcycles had them, at least early American > motorcycles. .my book on American motorcycles
features over 100 makes..I > left > it at my brothers house where I cannot look at it right now, but I do > remember seeing the foot clutch/hand shift on many of them..I think > technically, it has to be the spring loaded foot clutch and not the > "see-saw" type to be an actual suicide clutch, but having a foot operated > clutch on a motorcycle doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. > > We didn't start getting hand clutch/foot shift in USA made motorcycles > until > after WWII. The HDs made under license by a Japanese company made the > change before the licensor ever considered it, and the original > Springfield > Indian (which owned Henderson) went to its grave with foot clutches. > > Suicide shifts were the spring loaded foot clutch, hand shift guys. > > > > James Franklin > 2411 Pine Summit DR. E > Jacksonville, Florida 32211 > >
808-225-0994 (cell) > > > > > > From: Ruari McLennan < r.mclennan@shaw.ca> > Reply-To: W650riders@yahoogroups.com> To: W650riders@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [W650riders] Henderson > Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 20:53:10 -0700 > > Errr... Despite my vast knowledge of other fields, I'm still groping my > way > in bikes - what's a suicide shifter? Jake making the wrong bikini joke? > > Ruari > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tachokay@cs.com> To: W650riders@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 8:06 PM > Subject: Re: [W650riders] Henderson > > > Close, but no
suicide shifter... I thought only Harleys and Indians had > the suicide shifter... > > In a message dated 7/12/2007 6:07:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > r.mclennan@shaw.ca writes: > > > Hi: > > Here's that '31 Henderson again. > > Ruari > > > > > Rrrose. > @>-->-- > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > Go to temporary photos site - :: > Send an email to W650riders-nomail@yahoogroups.com to stop email delivery. > :: > Send an email to W650riders-normal@yahoogroups.com to resume email > delivery. > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
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That model of the Henderson was the first patrol vehicle the Ontario
Provincial Police used, with in-line four cyl. engines. Surprisingly,
it took them almost ten years to add cars to the fleet. I wonder how
they got about during the winter? There's a small pic of the Henderson
at:
Ray F.
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On 13-Jul-07, at 2:29 PM, Larry Botheras wrote: CAROLE Nash, the lady who owns the big UK bike insurance broker owns a
fire truck red one like that¡.
?
?
Larry Botheras
?
Essex UK
W650 Wrench
2007 Moto Guzzi Norge
1977 KH400
1978 CD175
1994 Ural Solo
?
?
?
From: W650riders@... [mailto:W650riders@...]
On Behalf Of Ruari McLennan
Sent: 12 July 2007 23:05
To: W650 Riders
Subject: [W650riders] Henderson
?
Hi:
?
Here's that '31 Henderson again.
?
Ruari
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No it worked like a car clutch
Ruari McLennan wrote:
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Thanks, Keith, do you mean you actually had to keep the pressure on while riding down the road? Ruari --- In W650riders@yahoogroups.com, Keith Williams ...> wrote: > > I don't know if all are aware of what a "suicide shifter" or more correctly suicide clutch was. It was where the over-center spring was removed from the heel and toe
rocker peddle so that it wasn't bi- stable. as designed. You had to maintain toe pressure on the front part to keep it clutched in gear and you were in a heap 'o hurt if you overbalanced at a stoplight and had to remove your foot from the clutch. Keith Williams > > Tachokay@... wrote: Close, but no suicide shifter... I thought only Harleys and Indians had the suicide shifter... > > In a message dated 7/12/2007 6:07:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, r.mclennan@. .. writes: > > Hi: > > Here's that '31 Henderson again. > > Ruari > > > > Rrrose. > @>-->-- >
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Neat - saves re-programming the throttle position sensor, eh?
Ruari
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonhaddock@..." <jonhaddock@...> To: <W650riders@...> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 1:03 AM Subject: Re: [W650riders] Henderson
The hand operated advance/retard lever was common on Brit bikes before the
development of the spring loaded auto-advance mechanism. You set it retarded
for starting, minimising kick-backs and ensuring a slow, lazy tick-over from
cold, and advanced it for fast running. You could also retard the ignition
to slog up hills, which was ideal if you were pulling a chair with the
family on board!
Jon
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Thanks, now I get it. Separate hand gear shift lever.
Ruari
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----- Original Message ----- From: "James Franklin" <jimw650@...> To: <W650riders@...> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 4:01 AM Subject: Re: [W650riders] Henderson To operate the hand shift..
You start the bike by kicking it through, control grip opposite the
throttle, operated in a similer way as the throttle..retard to start, then
advance as you pick up speed..cars and bikes advance automatically now of
course.
While pressing down on the clutch with your left foot, you would select
first by pushing the gear shift forward with your hand, the lever was on one
side of the tank (Harley, I believe, had a left hand shift, right hand
throttle, Indian..a right hand shift, left hand throttle..anyway, I would
remember better had I ever operated one, but I only read about it..and
thought the foot clutch thing was a stupid idea, so I really didn't retain
the info all that well). Each of the successive gears was selected by
pulling the lever back..most had three..some had a reverse as side cars were
very common then.
James Franklin
2411 Pine Summit DR. E
Jacksonville, Florida 32211
808-225-0994 (cell)
From: Ruari McLennan <r.mclennan@...>
Reply-To: W650riders@...
To: W650riders@...
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Henderson
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:17:19 -0700
Thanks for the primer, James. How did the hand shift work, exactly? Twist
shifting?
And on another unrelated topic, I vaguely recall my Dad telling me some
bikes had a hand operated timing advance control lever for descending hills
etc., but I didn't listen well enough, do you know what proportion pre-
1960 had them? And UK or Britbikes?
Ruari
----- Original Message -----
From: "James Franklin" <jimw650@...>
To: <W650riders@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Henderson
Most of the early motorcycles had them, at least early American
motorcycles..my book on American motorcycles features over 100 makes..I
left
it at my brothers house where I cannot look at it right now, but I do
remember seeing the foot clutch/hand shift on many of them..I think
technically, it has to be the spring loaded foot clutch and not the
"see-saw" type to be an actual suicide clutch, but having a foot operated
clutch on a motorcycle doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.
We didn't start getting hand clutch/foot shift in USA made motorcycles
until
after WWII. The HDs made under license by a Japanese company made the
change before the licensor ever considered it, and the original
Springfield
Indian (which owned Henderson) went to its grave with foot clutches.
Suicide shifts were the spring loaded foot clutch, hand shift guys.
James Franklin
2411 Pine Summit DR. E
Jacksonville, Florida 32211
808-225-0994 (cell)
From: Ruari McLennan <r.mclennan@...>
Reply-To: W650riders@...
To: W650riders@...
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Henderson
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 20:53:10 -0700
Errr... Despite my vast knowledge of other fields, I'm still groping my
way
in bikes - what's a suicide shifter? Jake making the wrong bikini joke?
Ruari
----- Original Message -----
From: Tachokay@...
To: W650riders@...
Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 8:06 PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Henderson
Close, but no suicide shifter... I thought only Harleys and Indians had
the suicide shifter...
In a message dated 7/12/2007 6:07:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
r.mclennan@... writes:
Hi:
Here's that '31 Henderson again.
Ruari
Rrrose.
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Wow.? I love the looks of it, didn't know they had 4
cylinders back then.
?
Ruari
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Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Henderson
That model of the Henderson was the first patrol vehicle the
Ontario Provincial Police used, with in-line four cyl. engines. Surprisingly,
it took them almost ten years to add cars to the fleet. I wonder how they got
about during the winter? There's a small pic of the Henderson at:
Ray
F.
On 13-Jul-07, at 2:29 PM, Larry Botheras wrote:
CAROLE
Nash, the lady who owns the big UK bike insurance broker owns a fire truck
red one like
that¡.
?
?
Larry
Botheras
?
Essex
UK
W650
Wrench
2007
Moto Guzzi Norge
1977
KH400
1978
CD175
1994
Ural Solo
?
?
?
From:
W650riders@... [mailto:W650riders@...] On Behalf Of Ruari McLennan
Sent:
12 July 2007 23:05
To:
W650 Riders
Subject:
[W650riders] Henderson
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Hi:
?
Here's
that '31 Henderson again.
?
Ruari
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Neat - saves re-programming the throttle position sensor, eh?
Ruari
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To: <W650riders@...>
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 1:03 AM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Henderson
The hand operated advance/retard lever was common on Brit bikes before the
development of the spring loaded auto-advance mechanism. You set it
retarded
for starting, minimising kick-backs and ensuring a slow, lazy tick-over
from
cold, and advanced it for fast running. You could also retard the ignition
to slog up hills, which was ideal if you were pulling a chair with the
family on board!
Jon
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonhaddock@..." <jonhaddock@...> To: <W650riders@...> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [W650riders] Henderson Like a lot of things in that era, they assumed a reasonable understanding of
machinery by the owner!
Neat - saves re-programming the throttle position sensor, eh?
Ruari
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jonhaddock@..." <jonhaddock@...>
To: <W650riders@...>
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 1:03 AM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Henderson
The hand operated advance/retard lever was common on Brit bikes before
the
development of the spring loaded auto-advance mechanism. You set it
retarded
for starting, minimising kick-backs and ensuring a slow, lazy tick-over
from
cold, and advanced it for fast running. You could also retard the
ignition
to slog up hills, which was ideal if you were pulling a chair with the
family on board!
Jon
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That is a Brittish "Indian", I think, because of copy rights, it can be called an Indian in England, but if it were sold in the USA, it would be sold as a Dakota.
Anyway, it is a much better "Indian" than those S&S V-Twin powered California Motorcycle Company cookie cutter chopper things that won the rights in court, to use the Indian trademark in the USA.
James Franklin
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Jacksonville, Florida 32211
808-225-0994 (cell)
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Subject: Re: [W650riders] Henderson
Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2007 11:02:27 +0100
Ok, who knows what this is....
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonhaddock@..." <jonhaddock@...> To: <W650riders@...> Sent: Saturday, July 14, 2007 10:43 AM Subject: Re: [W650riders] Henderson Like a lot of things in that era, they assumed a reasonable understanding
of
machinery by the owner!
Neat - saves re-programming the throttle position sensor, eh?
Ruari
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Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 1:03 AM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Henderson
The hand operated advance/retard lever was common on Brit bikes before
the
development of the spring loaded auto-advance mechanism. You set it
retarded
for starting, minimising kick-backs and ensuring a slow, lazy tick-over
from
cold, and advanced it for fast running. You could also retard the
ignition
to slog up hills, which was ideal if you were pulling a chair with the
family on board!
Jon
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