Balancing the carbs worked wonders for mine Larry wrote: Hi. I just got a pristine (3300 miles) 2000 W650 last week. I'm not
new to bikes, and currently have 5 in the garage. I was a little
surprised at the level of vibration that the W has, since it has a
counter balancer. The reviews I have read either don't mention
vibration or describe it as "mild". On mine, vibration builds until a
peak of about 3500 rpm, then slowly decreases until passing 4500 rpm.
I don't believe my '69 Bonneville
was any worse. The bike runs
perfect, motor mounts are tight. In fact, it shows little sign of use
at all. Is this normal for this machine, or am I just too used to
modern machines and it seems worse than it is.
Larry
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My younger brother, who used to do auto body repair, told me that dry ice will do the trick of pulling out dents, if there is no crease.
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Subject: [W650riders] Re: Tank dents
Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 21:51:52 -0000
I've also wondered about heating the tank or other similar
dimpled/dented sheet metal ....by putting it out in the hot summer
sun.....and then placing crushed dry ice in the dent cavity to shrink
the metal in the dent area where it had been stretched.
Pretty cheap, worth a try I guess.
Vernon
on it. I had to do considerable bodywork, but freezing lifted the
metal to a level where I could bodywork it.
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--- In W650riders@..., "Larry" <klmyself@...> wrote:
Hi. I just got a pristine (3300 miles) 2000 W650 last week. I'm not
new to bikes, and currently have 5 in the garage. I was a little
surprised at the level of vibration that the W has, since it has a
counter balancer. The reviews I have read either don't mention
vibration or describe it as "mild". On mine, vibration builds until
a peak of about 3500 rpm, then slowly decreases until passing 4500 rpm.
I don't believe my '69 Bonneville was any worse. The bike runs
perfect, motor mounts are tight. In fact, it shows little sign of use at all. Is this normal for this machine, or am I just too used to
modern machines and it seems worse than it is.
Larry
Watch the carburetors at an idle and you'll see the need to periodically synchronize them. The rubber boots move quite a bit fore and aft and that seems to knock them out of syncronization. I could feel an increase in vibration as the miles accumulated, so did the syncronization every oil change. It ALWAYS reduced the vibration substantially. Just my two bits worth. Ray Nielsen, in Minneapolis and sitting out the rain today.
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I think you're right on target. Larry wrote: --- In W650riders@yahoogroups.com, john gary simpson ...> wrote: > > Does the engine show any signs of havin been disassembled? > > Larry .> wrote: Hi. I just got a pristine (3300 miles) 2000 W650 last week. I'm not > new to bikes, and currently have 5 in the garage. I was a little > surprised at the level of vibration
that the W has, since it has a > counter balancer. The reviews I have read either don't mention > vibration or describe it as "mild". On mine, vibration builds until a > peak of about 3500 rpm, then slowly decreases until passing 4500 rpm. > I don't believe my '69 Bonneville was any worse. The bike runs > perfect, motor mounts are tight. In fact, it shows little sign of use > at all. Is this normal for this machine, or am I just too used to > modern machines and it seems worse than it is. > > Larry > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --- > Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. > Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. > No sign of anything having been disassembled. Not burred screw or bolt heads, not a scratch on any part anywhere. Tires show their 3300 miles, and that's about it. Perhaps like the old Triumphs I just
got one with balance factor not as good as it could be. Larry
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Re: NWC - RETRO jAWAS Jelly MOULD
How very transcontinental of you....
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I guess it's a question of academic
inerest.
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(After all, they are manufactured and some
people do buy them.)
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Personally, I get bored with?reading up /
viewing ?a lot of common stuff - ie. most Japanese?sports
bikes?- jelly mold clones.
?
If? your interest is confined to these
deadlly dull clones featured in the likes of "Bike" ?magazine, you're
missing out on the wider world of bikes and all the wierd and wonderful
stuff out there.? Well, that's my opinion -?each to his own.
?
I?imagine Jon' will have an interest......
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Adrian
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Re: NWC: Polish digital clock
Absolutely, those Polish cats don't have a malicious bone in their bodies. Pete --- In W650riders@..., "Captain Jake" <jake@...> wrote:
I think your webfilter is wrong. Three reasons - 1. The site is
all about the work of Nakamura-san and his colleagues, which is fancy design work and programming, not malicious stuff. 2. I think it's flipping out because of all of the fancy programming and Flash on their site, this is probably what the webfilter is programmed to think of as high-risk. 3. A search on Google.com for the domain yugop.com brings back a ton of hits about their work. If it was a malicious site, I'd expect a bunch of hits about how it's an evil site.
Just my opinion,
Jake
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Re: NWC: Polish digital clock
Doh, my spys have mislead me again. Are you sure marunagasouko B, 1-5-10 higashi-shinagawa, isn't on the outskirts of Warsaw? Just round behind the McDonalds? Anyway, eagle eyed smartypants aside, it's clever isn't it......? Pete --- In W650riders@..., "Captain Jake" <jake@...> wrote:
Ummm.....I think Mr. Nakamura, of marunagasouko B, 1-5-10 higashi-
shinagawa, shinagawa, tokyo 140-0002 japan, *might* be Japanese, instead of a being a bunch of Polish students. Here's a map to his place...
Jake
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Re: Still she didn't see it NWC
Both.? NOBODY should get away with striking a biker.? But that bike, now that may be a slightly different story...
In a message dated 7/18/2007 8:48:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, cafeboy@... writes:
What a dilemma....jail her or thank her.?? ;->
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I think that carb sync is about the only thing I haven't gone over. It runs so smooth, and wild idle down to 500 rpm smoothly without missing a beat, so I guessed it was pretty close. I may do that check anyway. Won't take but a minute. Thanks, Larry --- In W650riders@..., Ruari McLennan <r.mclennan@...> wrote:
Congratulations! I think you're just too used to modern bikes.
It's part of the charm. The W's engine design is like that of the old Triumphs etc., and the counterbalancer is designed only to kick in after about 4500 RPM. My mirrors shake between 2500-3500 revs. and I feel a handlebar buzz. But, you should check the carb synchronization, it could be out a bit - this
causes some increased vibration. Other thoughts include tires, wheel
trueness, tire air pressure etc.
Ruari McLennan
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From: "Larry" <klmyself@...>
To: <W650riders@...>
Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2007 1:48 PM
Subject: [W650riders] Vibration
Hi. I just got a pristine (3300 miles) 2000 W650 last week. I'm not
new to bikes, and currently have 5 in the garage. I was a little
surprised at the level of vibration that the W has, since it has a
counter balancer. The reviews I have read either don't mention
vibration or describe it as "mild". On mine, vibration builds until a
peak of about 3500 rpm, then slowly decreases until passing 4500 rpm.
I don't believe my '69 Bonneville was any worse. The bike runs
perfect, motor mounts are tight. In fact, it shows little sign of use
at all. Is this normal for this machine, or am I just too used to
modern machines and it seems worse than it is.
Larry
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I've also wondered about heating the tank or other similar
dimpled/dented sheet metal ....by putting it out in the hot summer
sun.....and then placing crushed dry ice in the dent cavity to shrink
the metal in the dent area where it had been stretched.
Pretty cheap, worth a try I guess.
Vernon
on it. I had to do considerable bodywork, but freezing lifted the
metal to a level where I could bodywork it.
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--- In W650riders@..., john gary simpson <eustisgary@...> wrote:
Does the engine show any signs of havin been disassembled?
Larry <klmyself@...> wrote: Hi. I just got a pristine (3300
miles) 2000 W650 last week. I'm not new to bikes, and currently have 5 in the garage. I was a little
surprised at the level of vibration that the W has, since it has a
counter balancer. The reviews I have read either don't mention
vibration or describe it as "mild". On mine, vibration builds until a
peak of about 3500 rpm, then slowly decreases until passing 4500 rpm.
I don't believe my '69 Bonneville was any worse. The bike runs
perfect, motor mounts are tight. In fact, it shows little sign of use
at all. Is this normal for this machine, or am I just too used to
modern machines and it seems worse than it is.
Larry
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No sign of anything having been disassembled. Not burred screw or bolt heads, not a scratch on any part anywhere. Tires show their 3300 miles, and that's about it. Perhaps like the old Triumphs I just got one with balance factor not as good as it could be. Larry
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I had a look at those too.......as you might
expect!
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Not too keen on the Jawa
roadsters...Although I love that '77 ISDT Enduro Sammy Miller has, but
as I said, those Velosolex's look pretty interesting!
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jAWAS
I guess it's a question of academic
inerest.
?
(After all, they are manufactured and some people
do buy them.)
?
Personally, I get bored with?reading up /
viewing ?a lot of common stuff - ie. most Japanese?sports
bikes?- jelly mold clones.
?
If? your interest is confined to these
deadlly dull clones featured in the likes of "Bike" ?magazine, you're
missing out on the wider world of bikes and all the wierd and wonderful stuff
out there.? Well, that's my opinion -?each to his own.
?
I?imagine Jon' will have an
interest......
?
?
Adrian
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Subject: RE: [W650riders] NWC - RETRO
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Not too keen on the Jawa roadsters...Although I
love that '77 ISDT Enduro Sammy Miller has, but as I said, those Velosolex's
look pretty interesting!
I guess it's a question of academic
inerest.
?
(After all, they are manufactured and some people
do buy them.)
?
Personally, I get bored with?reading up /
viewing ?a lot of common stuff - ie. most Japanese?sports
bikes?- jelly mold clones.
?
If? your interest is confined to these
deadlly dull clones featured in the likes of "Bike" ?magazine, you're
missing out on the wider world of bikes and all the wierd and wonderful stuff
out there.? Well, that's my opinion -?each to his own.
?
I?imagine Jon' will have an interest......
?
?
Adrian
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Check this out - you can buy retro Jawas
now!
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Does the engine show any signs of havin been disassembled? Larry wrote: Hi. I just got a pristine (3300 miles) 2000 W650 last week. I'm not
new to bikes, and currently have 5 in the garage. I was a little
surprised at the level of vibration that the W has, since it has a
counter balancer. The reviews I have read either don't mention
vibration or describe it as "mild". On mine, vibration builds until a
peak of about 3500 rpm, then slowly decreases until passing 4500 rpm.
I don't believe my
'69 Bonneville was any worse. The bike runs
perfect, motor mounts are tight. In fact, it shows little sign of use
at all. Is this normal for this machine, or am I just too used to
modern machines and it seems worse than it is.
Larry
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That's the ONLY way to do it.? hard t believe anyone did it WITHOUT seam welding. Seam welding really stiffens up a Porsche 914-6 as well. "Jonhaddock@..." wrote: Yep, de-seaming Minis was done to the rally cars...but they seam welded themafterwards for extra strength, not simply cut off the seams to look good! >I knew a guy a long time ago who had a mini.(BMC not BMW) One of the not so >great features of the old mini's was that they loads of sticky out
>flanges/seams and he thought it would be a good idea to flat them back >flush with the bodywork. The end result looked superb especially after a >shiny new coat of cellulose paint. Unfortunately the sticky out bits was >what held the whole thing together.... ...... > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > From: W650riders@yahoogroups.com on behalf of john gary simpson > Sent: Wed 18/07/2007 17:31 > To: W650riders@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [W650riders] Tank seam flanges > > > > I'm looking at a W with a dent in the tank. If I get it, I will probably > grind off the flanges, weld the seams, bodywork, and paint. > > Kirk Johnson < johnsonkirk@sbcglobal.net>
wrote: > > Well, now that you mention it, I thought about trying some flat black on > the ugly flange when I repaint. I'll probably experiment with some flat > black tape first. The goal being that the ugly flange won't be as > noticeable. > I thought I was the only one that was bothered by the ugly flange. > If I were really a nerd I'd take the time to grind them down a bit when I > repaint. Maybe seal the tank first, just in case the grinder get carried > away. > Kirk > > Ruari McLennan < r.mclennan@shaw.ca> wrote: > > No. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "john gary simpson" < eustisgary@yahoo.com > 40yahoo.com> > > To: < W650riders@yahoogroups.com
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Congratulations! I think you're just too used to modern bikes. It's part of the charm. The W's engine design is like that of the old Triumphs etc., and the counterbalancer is designed only to kick in after about 4500 RPM. My mirrors shake between 2500-3500 revs. and I feel a handlebar buzz. But, you should check the carb synchronization, it could be out a bit - this causes some increased vibration. Other thoughts include tires, wheel trueness, tire air pressure etc.
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new to bikes, and currently have 5 in the garage. I was a little
surprised at the level of vibration that the W has, since it has a
counter balancer. The reviews I have read either don't mention
vibration or describe it as "mild". On mine, vibration builds until a
peak of about 3500 rpm, then slowly decreases until passing 4500 rpm.
I don't believe my '69 Bonneville was any worse. The bike runs
perfect, motor mounts are tight. In fact, it shows little sign of use
at all. Is this normal for this machine, or am I just too used to
modern machines and it seems worse than it is.
Larry
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Velosolex Was NWC - RETRO jAWAS
I also looked long and hard at those
Velosolex(es?)? Why, oh why, am I doing this?? Hazel, Jon, and many
others have this weird?interest in mopeds etc.? Now, against all my
better instincts and perhaps through osmosis, I start to feel a strange interest
too...? I had forgotten for years that my first bike at age 16 was some
kind of red Italian moped (make unknown, it had been repainted many times), and
the laughter and teasing I endured then from my mates while puttering up and
around?the hills of Lochalsh to a maximum of 28 mph.?? Why would
I even think of it now?...
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But they do Velosolex's too.....
..you said what I was thinking....
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Yep, de-seaming Minis was done to the rally cars...but they seam welded themafterwards for extra strength, not simply cut off the seams to look good! I knew a guy a long time ago who had a mini.(BMC not BMW) One of the not so great features of the old mini's was that they loads of sticky out flanges/seams and he thought it would be a good idea to flat them back flush with the bodywork. The end result looked superb especially after a shiny new coat of cellulose paint. Unfortunately the sticky out bits was what held the whole thing together..........
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Sent: Wed 18/07/2007 17:31
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Subject: Re: [W650riders] Tank seam flanges
I'm looking at a W with a dent in the tank. If I get it, I will probably grind off the flanges, weld the seams, bodywork, and paint.
Kirk Johnson <johnsonkirk@...> wrote:
Well, now that you mention it, I thought about trying some flat black on the ugly flange when I repaint. I'll probably experiment with some flat black tape first. The goal being that the ugly flange won't be as noticeable.
I thought I was the only one that was bothered by the ugly flange.
If I were really a nerd I'd take the time to grind them down a bit when I repaint. Maybe seal the tank first, just in case the grinder get carried away.
Kirk
Ruari McLennan <r.mclennan@...> wrote:
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