Domed stickers that size are not inexpensive.
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Have you re-greased the swinging arm bearing? Typically dry at
20k and some dry when new.
Keith 1999 W650 65,000miles UK
On 04/11/2024 19:42, vijahast via
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You bet. ?Your tank is gloss black and the decals look great
on that color. ?I’ve not needed to paint my tank… it’s fine as
it is (blue/silver 2000 model). ?
im currently going through my bike (20k miles) and greasing
bearings, adjusting everything I can, basic maintenance stuff.
?These bikes are relatively simple to work on (I’m no mechanic)
and are quite reliable. ?At some point I may want to modify and
customize but not for a little while. ?When I do, I’ll probably
be looking for your decals
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You bet. ?Your tank is gloss black and the decals look great on that color. ?I’ve not needed to paint my tank… it’s fine as it is (blue/silver 2000 model). ?
im currently going through my bike (20k miles) and greasing bearings, adjusting everything I can, basic maintenance stuff. ?These bikes are relatively simple to work on (I’m no mechanic) and are quite reliable. ?At some point I may want to modify and customize but not for a little while. ?When I do, I’ll probably be looking for your decals
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Hi! Thanks, yeah Im super happy with them :)
Regarding adhesion, only time will tell I suppose? I was told to expect around 7 years of life out of them if they are stuck somewhere permanently outdoors.?
Considering I park my bike indoors when I am not riding, Im hoping that they will see me through until the next paint job, or next cosmetic makeover of the bike ( which will probably happen before the stickers fail!)?
Instructions were to apply, ( peel and stick) with full curing after 24 hours.
I bought some of those? ones like Don has, but I was personally really disappointed in the overall quality and finish, so I decided? to go the extra mile. Glad I did. :)
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How is the adhesive? ?Hold up in rain? ?The domed acrylic chrome decals are beautiful. ?Custom made specialty items are never as cheap as simple stickers. ?Really, I hesitate to call these stickers since they are not vaguely in the same category. ?Good job. ?
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Steep is an understatement! lol
They arent for everyone thats for sure.? At the end of the day they are just stickers!
If you are after a budget friendly option, check out the pic that Don? posted of his bike in this thread,
those you should be able to pick up for 5 bucks a pair pretty much anywhere online :)?
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Re: Fork action & stability
I had similar issues. ?New Michelin road classic tires did not help. ?I did fit a stabilizer and it does help a lot. ?There is some wobble at higher speeds but very dependent on highway rain grooves. ?On my bike, I think the wobble may be more about the highway rain grooves (I live in San Diego). ?Seems to go anywhere I need to take a highway. ?
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Re: Fork action & stability
It's been known that the W may experience a wobble, but it is correctable. Now, luckily I have never experienced this and easily took mine to 104MPH.? You stated your bike was hit? Yeah, that's a problem because there are subtle things even an experienced rider may not catch, like front ends being very slightly out of alignment and worse, frame damage.
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Who inspected your bike and signed off? W should absolutely be able to run at fast highway speeds without unsafe noises and wobbles if properly maintained. Not saying you ignore maintenance but bunch of flags went off when you said it was hit.?
For tires, I've had the BT45s, Pirelli Sport Demons, and Michelin Road Classics. I like the Michelins best and after 5,000 miles(woah, that came quick) they look nearly new. Trusted shop contacted Michelin, as did I, and they recommended front and rear pressures of 36 PSI. Feels great to me and handle well.
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Can you call upon a trusted expert to confirm no frame issues? I wouldn't hop on a bike if I suspected frame damage and now, with a concerning wobble? Nope. Get it sorted. Wish ya luck?
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Just make sure that you're measuring the oil level with the forks collapsed.
-- Allan Wyatt Raconteur and All-Around Curmudgeon
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Pretty steep price for stickers?
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Hey W friends, I recently had some custom tank badges made for my bike, and I needed to make a minimum order, so I have a couple of sets left over.
They are epoxy acrylic "domed" stickers, printed on chrome gold background.? 85mm diameter.    They catch the light beautifully, though its hard to get pics of them properly.? If anyone is interested, they are 50 bucks per pair ( plus shipping) just let me know, otherwise ill throw them up on the ol ebay.?
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I have a 2000 model. ?I used the earlier spec...
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On Nov 3, 2024, at 2:14 PM, drewwils via < drewwils@...> wrote:
I believe the W650 forks were changed for the 2001 and later models. What the difference is I don't know but if you're filling to the 2001 and later spec and yours is earlier, perhaps you do have the wrong level? Unsure what your model year is. I'm doing some work on mine as well in the coming weeks
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I believe the W650 forks were changed for the 2001 and later models. What the difference is I don't know but if you're filling to the 2001 and later spec and yours is earlier, perhaps you do have the wrong level? Unsure what your model year is. I'm doing some work on mine as well in the coming weeks
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Hey W friends, I recently had some custom tank badges made for my bike, and I needed to make a minimum order, so I have a couple of sets left over.
They are epoxy acrylic "domed" stickers, printed on chrome gold background.? 85mm diameter.    They catch the light beautifully, though its hard to get pics of them properly.? If anyone is interested, they are 50 bucks per pair ( plus shipping) just let me know, otherwise ill throw them up on the ol ebay.?
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Had a similar prob with mine years ago, front tyre, and tyre pressure make quite a difference I found
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On Saturday 2 November 2024, drewwils via <drewwils= [email protected]> wrote: > I'm not able to take my bike over 75mph because of stability issues. Death wobble is inevitable. Even at lower speeds I can feel the instability with a little back and forth action on the handlebars.? > ? > Problem was there before a shop rebuilt them after someone hit my bike and bent the forks. > The forks are bouncy and not firm. Easy to collapse all the way down when you put weight on them. > My bike friends said they shouldnt do that... I have had transmission fluid rather than fork oil in them, but I did the same with my last W and had no issues. Stable up to 100mph Same transmission fluid. > Bearings were replaced at the same time as the forks were rebuilt.? Also added progressive springs. I've had the problem with BT46 and Road Classic tires. > ? > I'm taking them off and putting in Motul 15w fork oil tomorrow as my last resort to see if that helps. I may tighten the steering stem a bit as well but this baffles me. > ? > Could the frame be bent or something crazy like that? > ? > ? > ? > ? > _._,_._,_ > ________________________________ > Groups.io Links: > > You receive all messages sent to this group. > > View/Reply Online (#188846) | Reply to Group | Reply to Sender | Mute This Topic | New Topic > Your Subscription | Contact Group Owner | Unsubscribe [ sidbloggs888@...] > > _._,_._,_
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I'm not able to take my bike over 75mph because of stability issues. Death wobble is inevitable. Even at lower speeds I can feel the instability with a little back and forth action on the handlebars.?
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Problem was there before a shop rebuilt them after someone hit my bike and bent the forks.
The forks are bouncy and not firm. Easy to collapse all the way down when you put weight on them.
My bike friends said they shouldnt do that... I have had transmission fluid rather than fork oil in them, but I did the same with my last W and had no issues. Stable up to 100mph Same transmission fluid.
Bearings were replaced at the same time as the forks were rebuilt.? Also added progressive springs. I've had the problem with BT46 and Road Classic tires.
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I'm taking them off and putting in Motul 15w fork oil tomorrow as my last resort to see if that helps. I may tighten the steering stem a bit as well but this baffles me.
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Could the frame be bent or something crazy like that?
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Thanks Peter… I’m not bottoming on the bumps… but there is a bit of a clunking feel and noise. ?Time to get to the bottom of it. ?I don’t really want a stiffer suspension, but the front end does dive a bit more than I like when braking… I was thinking progressive springs, but maybe just a bit more preload with a longer spacer would do the trick.
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It pre compresses the damper springs making them less spongy, hence no bottoming over bumps. It's a trick we used on the Yamaha SR 500 back in the ,80s and 90s. Also known as "poor man's progressive springs". Progressive springs do the job at a cost and availability. But maybe what you're after I cannot answer as I now re- read your inquiry? Peter. Den fre. 1. nov. 2024 kl. 21.53 skrev Matthew Szostak via <gurdy4me= [email protected]>: Peter - thanks… but… what does a one inch longer spacer accomplish in this instance?
Yes Matthew a one inch longer spacer does the trick, done that on mine.? Den fre. 1. nov. 2024 kl. 10.27 skrev Matthew Szostak via <gurdy4me= [email protected]>: It’s a winter project, so it might take awhile, but I will report back… On Oct 31, 2024, at 10:43 AM, vijahast via < vijahast@...> wrote:
That is interesting… the only thing moving around is that damper spring.? Without oil, you can hear it as you flip the forks over.? The damper is fastened to the bottom of the outer tube, it isn’t moving.? The damper spring just slides up and down the damper shaft.? I don’t really know what it does exactly. ?
at any rate, I do hear it.? Only thing that I can think of that would ‘clunk’ like that might be the spacer and/or spring.? Perhaps a longer spacer might preload the spring a bit?? I don’t know, just thinking out loud.
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It pre compresses the damper springs making them less spongy, hence no bottoming over bumps. It's a trick we used on the Yamaha SR 500 back in the ,80s and 90s. Also known as "poor man's progressive springs". Progressive springs do the job at a cost and availability. But maybe what you're after I cannot answer as I now re- read your inquiry? Peter. Den fre. 1. nov. 2024 kl. 21.53 skrev Matthew Szostak via <gurdy4me= [email protected]>:
Peter - thanks… but… what does a one inch longer spacer accomplish in this instance?
Yes Matthew a one inch longer spacer does the trick, done that on mine.? Den fre. 1. nov. 2024 kl. 10.27 skrev Matthew Szostak via <gurdy4me= [email protected]>: It’s a winter project, so it might take awhile, but I will report back… On Oct 31, 2024, at 10:43 AM, vijahast via < vijahast@...> wrote:
That is interesting… the only thing moving around is that damper spring.? Without oil, you can hear it as you flip the forks over.? The damper is fastened to the bottom of the outer tube, it isn’t moving.? The damper spring just slides up and down the damper shaft.? I don’t really know what it does exactly. ?
at any rate, I do hear it.? Only thing that I can think of that would ‘clunk’ like that might be the spacer and/or spring.? Perhaps a longer spacer might preload the spring a bit?? I don’t know, just thinking out loud.
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Peter - thanks… but… what does a one inch longer spacer accomplish in this instance?
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Yes Matthew a one inch longer spacer does the trick, done that on mine.? Den fre. 1. nov. 2024 kl. 10.27 skrev Matthew Szostak via <gurdy4me= [email protected]>: It’s a winter project, so it might take awhile, but I will report back… On Oct 31, 2024, at 10:43 AM, vijahast via < vijahast@...> wrote:
That is interesting… the only thing moving around is that damper spring.? Without oil, you can hear it as you flip the forks over.? The damper is fastened to the bottom of the outer tube, it isn’t moving.? The damper spring just slides up and down the damper shaft.? I don’t really know what it does exactly. ?
at any rate, I do hear it.? Only thing that I can think of that would ‘clunk’ like that might be the spacer and/or spring.? Perhaps a longer spacer might preload the spring a bit?? I don’t know, just thinking out loud.
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Yes Matthew a one inch longer spacer does the trick, done that on mine.? Den fre. 1. nov. 2024 kl. 10.27 skrev Matthew Szostak via <gurdy4me= [email protected]>:
It’s a winter project, so it might take awhile, but I will report back… On Oct 31, 2024, at 10:43 AM, vijahast via < vijahast@...> wrote:
That is interesting… the only thing moving around is that damper spring.? Without oil, you can hear it as you flip the forks over.? The damper is fastened to the bottom of the outer tube, it isn’t moving.? The damper spring just slides up and down the damper shaft.? I don’t really know what it does exactly. ?
at any rate, I do hear it.? Only thing that I can think of that would ‘clunk’ like that might be the spacer and/or spring.? Perhaps a longer spacer might preload the spring a bit?? I don’t know, just thinking out loud.
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