I've put Shorai Lithium Iron n batteries in both my Ws. If you are not a weekly (or even daily) rider motorcycle lesd/acid batteries are just not very durable, I've read about some of you getting very long life from your stock batteries but that has not been my experience over th years with many Bikes . The point is, if your battery neds to be replaced do yourself a favor, spend the extra money and get a Lithium-irom battery. It'll shave 5 lbs. of the weight and hold a charge for 6months at? a crack Alohapaul Here's the link for the Shorai I just bought for my 2001
or this Phantom battery is whats been in my 2000 for over 2 years
From: "djguggms@... [W650riders]"
To: W650riders@...
Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2016 8:35 AM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] New W650 owner
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Cripes, I posted this 4 days ago, and it just now shows up.
Dennis
> Hi Les
>
> Hmm...10 things to watch out for. Might be tough. These are pretty solid
> machines, many of us here have thousands of more miles. The usual things on a
> used machine, like chain and sprockets, battery.
>
> As far as what's particular to the W...Rear fender cracking just ahead of the
> taillight mount.
>
> I'm really scratching my head to come up with 10.
>
> Have you ridden it much? Anything you might want to ask about?
>
> Dennis
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> Just bought an '00 W650 with 17k miles for $3,300. Seemed like a good deal
>> to
>> me.
>>
>>
>> Was wondering what I should check first. I looked in the FAQ but could not
>> see anything like "So you got a new W650. Here are ten things you should
>> check first."
>>
>>
>> Any suggestions?
>>
>>
>> Thanks, Les, Dallas, TX
>>
>>
>> P.S. I thought I posted earlier but I guess I didn't
>>
>
>
>
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Cripes, I posted this 4 days ago, and it just now shows up.
Dennis
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Hi Les
Hmm...10 things to watch out for. Might be tough. These are pretty solid
machines, many of us here have thousands of more miles. The usual things on a
used machine, like chain and sprockets, battery.
As far as what's particular to the W...Rear fender cracking just ahead of the
taillight mount.
I'm really scratching my head to come up with 10.
Have you ridden it much? Anything you might want to ask about?
Dennis
Hi,
Just bought an '00 W650 with 17k miles for $3,300. Seemed like a good deal
to
me.
Was wondering what I should check first. I looked in the FAQ but could not
see anything like "So you got a new W650. Here are ten things you should
check first."
Any suggestions?
Thanks, Les, Dallas, TX
P.S. I thought I posted earlier but I guess I didn't
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You do this by running the engine after the fuel petcock is turned off.?? I usually turn the fuel off a block from home.?? When the engine starts starving for fuel,? I know it's time to turn into my driveway.
It doesn't "drain" the carbs.? It runs the engine until the carburetor jets are out of the fuel supply.?? This keeps the carbs innards dry except for the bottom of the float bowls.?? Keeping the jets and passages dry seems to work for me.?? I do this for all my bikes and have not had to rebuild the carbs on any of them.
Bob
From: "whitj@... [W650riders]"
To: W650riders@...
Sent: Sunday, August 7, 2016 9:10 AM
Subject: [W650riders] Re: New W650 owner
With a manual petcock you can run fuel out of the carbs
How do you this? The petcock is higher than the carbs. Am I missing something here?
John
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With a manual petcock you can run fuel out of the carbs
How do you this? The petcock is higher than the carbs. Am I missing something here?
John
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Les,
A W650 has about the smoothest idle of any bike I've ever had or heard.? Should sound something like a Singer sewing machine at under 1,000 RPM.? Nice, smooth, with very linear throttle response all the way through the rev range.? Zero hesitation and very smooth from bottom up.? Here's a link to my first foray into the carbs back in 2011. The W has a couple unique features.? One is the clam style air box which is hard to understand until you see how it goes together.? Finding a shop manual is really the best place to start.? As you can see by the link there's a bit of work to taking off the carbs on these bikes.? Like anything, once you've done it not such a big deal.? By installing an on - off fuel petcock I'm able to run the carbs dryer so the ethanol can't work it's magic.? The only way to avoid this type of motorcycle maintenance is to have a fuel injected bike.
Monty?
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' A few hours ago I saw a vehicle that'd haul that tanker.....you wanna get out of here? You talk to me.'? Mad Jake
Ha!...Nice one Centurion!'
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Paul, Les is in Dallas. We don't have a source of
ethanol free gas anywhere near the city. If we rode to one, filled up the tank,
we'd run out by the time we got home. We are not left with any option besides
buying a tanker full of guzzoline.
?
A few hours ago I saw a vehicle that'd haul that
tanker.....you wanna get out of here? You talk to me.
?
Mad Jake
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sending this earlier but it didn't go trough
IF YOUR w HAS BEEN
RUNNING ON eTHANOL/GAS BLEND AND YOU ARE HAVING STARTING/ROUGH IDLING
ISSUES? YOU LIKELY HAVE FOULED CARBURETORS. DO YOURSELF A FAVOR AND
BYPASS ALL THE CHEMICAL GAS TREATMENTS, THEY RARELY WORK WHEN THE CARBS ARE
ALREADY GUMMED UP, TAKE THE CARBS OFF THE BIKE AND CLEAN THEM! THEN FIND A
SOURCE FOR ETHANOL FREE GAS AND RUN ONLY THAT IN YOUR W.
ALOHAPAUL
Sorry about
the CAPS, I didn't notice the Caplock was on! and check out this site
http://pure-gas.org/
From:
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To:
W650riders@...
Sent:
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Subject:
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Thanks Monty, great
suggestions.
I already have
starting trouble and a rough idle.
I'm not really into wrenching but this might be the bike that get's me
into it.
Appreciate the help, Les
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Hey David, I'm past 70,000 miles on mine.
Jake
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Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2016 06:46 PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Re: New W650 owner
Welcome indeed ! And never hesitate to post questions to the group . . .
Re your petcock query, on the paddle there's a barely visible arrow stamped on its edge to
let you know if you're on the tank, reserve or prime. It's counter intuitive in that the arrow
points AWAY from the wider flat/flange of the paddle.
An easy visual reminder is to use a bright colored enamel paint pen to mark
the correct side/flat of the paddle.
BTW, group inquiry . . . I've tallied near 27k miles on the ODO. Anybody
past 30k?
David
Lakes Area
Oakland County , MI
2000-W
"What you do today is important, because you are
exchanging a day of your life for it."
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Date: Saturday, August 6, 2016, 11:42 AM
Thanks Gene so much.Great info all good stuff. I like 'fill the tank with gas' sounds rudimentary, but believe or not I
have yet to do that and I have no idea which way to turn the petcock when I run dry!
I appreciate your help.
Les
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Welcome, Les, great to have another W owner in the
Dallas area. I'm in Lewisville, right up at 407 and 35.
On the petcock, somebody here gave this idea long
ago, it's always worked for me: The long end is forward when it's in "On",
because you're going forward into adventure! When you hit reserve, you need to
turn the petcock so the long end points backwards, towards the last gas station
you passed.
?
I'm usually pretty darned available on the weekends
but I'm having major surgery on Thursday so I won't be available for the next
two weekends, then the first weekend in September I've been hired to do an
appearance in Oklahoma City - so all you folks who want to see the Interceptor,
it'll be in OK City on that weekend.
?
It's pretty neat that you're a Les, because I'm
pretty sure you would be our second gentleman of mature years in the Dallas area
who has had a W650.
?
Again, great to have you here,
?
Jake in Dallas
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Subject: [W650riders] Re: New W650
owner
Thanks
Gene so much.
Great info all good stuff. I like 'fill the tank with gas' sounds
rudimentary, but believe or not I have yet to do that and I have no idea which
way to turn the petcock when I run dry!
I appreciate your help.
Les
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From: Paul Baillie
To: "W650riders@..."
Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2016 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Re: New W650 owner
IF YOUR w HAS BEEN RUNNING ON eTHANOL/GAS BLEND AND YOU ARE HAVING STARTING/ROUGH IDLING ISSUES? YOU LIKELY HAVE FOULED CARBURETORS. DO YOURSELF A FAVOR AND BYPASS ALL THE CHEMICAL GAS TREATMENTS, THEY RARELY WORK WHEN THE CARBS ARE ALREADY GUMMED UP, TAKE THE CARBS OFF THE BIKE AND CLEAN THEM! THEN FIND A SOURCE FOR ETHANOL FREE GAS AND RUN ONLY THAT IN YOUR W. ALOHAPAUL Sorry about the CAPS, I didn't notice the Caplock was on! and check out this site
http://pure-gas.org/
From: "leshall@... [W650riders]"
To: W650riders@...
Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2016 5:38 AM
Subject: [W650riders] Re: New W650 owner
?
Thanks Monty, great suggestions.
I already have starting trouble and a rough idle.
I'm not really into wrenching but this might be the bike that get's me into it.
Appreciate the help, Les
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Re: New W650 owner - Petcock Marking
Excellent idea about marking the shutoff liver with a paint pen. I have done the same with my bikes as there doesn't seems to be standard for the way the lever works.
I marked mine with a red Sharpie which is still on there,? but the paint is better.??
I guess a dab of dark red (or the color of your choice) nail polish will work too.
I just look down for the red and I know the fuel is off.
Bob
From: "david berman dvdberman@... [W650riders]"
To: W650riders@...
Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2016 4:46 PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Re: New W650 owner
Welcome indeed ! And never hesitate to post questions to the group . . . Re your petcock query, on the paddle there's a barely visible arrow stamped on its edge to let you know if you're on the tank, reserve or prime. It's counter intuitive in that the arrow points AWAY from the wider flat/flange of the paddle. An easy visual reminder is to use a bright colored enamel paint pen to mark the correct side/flat of the paddle. BTW, group inquiry . . . I've tallied near 27k miles on the ODO. Anybody past 30k? David? Lakes Area Oakland County , MI 2000-W "What you do today is important, because you are exchanging a day of your life for it." -------------------------------------------- On Sat, 8/6/16, leshall@... [W650riders] < W650riders@...> wrote: Subject: [W650riders] Re: New W650 owner To: W650riders@... Date: Saturday, August 6, 2016, 11:42 AM Thanks Gene so much.Great info all good stuff. I like 'fill the tank with gas' sounds rudimentary, but believe or not I have yet to do that and I have no idea which way to turn the petcock when I run dry! I appreciate your help. Les ------------------------------------ Posted by: david berman < dvdberman@...> ------------------------------------ Go to temporary photos site - :: Send an email to W650riders-nomail@... to stop email delivery. :: Send an email to W650riders-normal@... to resume email delivery. ------------------------------------ Yahoo Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: ? ? <*> Your email settings: ? ? Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: ? ? ? ? (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: ? ? W650riders-digest@... ? ? W650riders-fullfeatured@...<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: ? ? W650riders-unsubscribe@...<*> Your use of Yahoo Groups is subject to: ? ?
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Welcome indeed ! And never hesitate to post questions to the group . . .
Re your petcock query, on the paddle there's a barely visible arrow stamped on its edge to
let you know if you're on the tank, reserve or prime. It's counter intuitive in that the arrow
points AWAY from the wider flat/flange of the paddle.
An easy visual reminder is to use a bright colored enamel paint pen to mark
the correct side/flat of the paddle.
BTW, group inquiry . . . I've tallied near 27k miles on the ODO. Anybody
past 30k?
David?
Lakes Area
Oakland County , MI
2000-W
"What you do today is important, because you are
exchanging a day of your life for it."
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Subject: [W650riders] Re: New W650 owner
To: W650riders@...
Date: Saturday, August 6, 2016, 11:42 AM
Thanks Gene so much.Great info all good stuff. I like 'fill the tank with gas' sounds rudimentary, but believe or not I
have yet to do that and I have no idea which way to turn the petcock when I run dry!
I appreciate your help.
Les
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IF YOUR w HAS BEEN RUNNING ON eTHANOL/GAS BLEND AND YOU ARE HAVING STARTING/ROUGH IDLING ISSUES? YOU LIKELY HAVE FOULED CARBURETORS. DO YOURSELF A FAVOR AND BYPASS ALL THE CHEMICAL GAS TREATMENTS, THEY RARELY WORK WHEN THE CARBS ARE ALREADY GUMMED UP, TAKE THE CARBS OFF THE BIKE AND CLEAN THEM! THEN FIND A SOURCE FOR ETHANOL FREE GAS AND RUN ONLY THAT IN YOUR W. ALOHAPAUL Sorry about the CAPS, I didn't notice the Caplock was on! and check out this site
http://pure-gas.org/
From: "leshall@... [W650riders]"
To: W650riders@...
Sent: Saturday, August 6, 2016 5:38 AM
Subject: [W650riders] Re: New W650 owner
?
Thanks Monty, great suggestions.
I already have starting trouble and a rough idle.
I'm not really into wrenching but this might be the bike that get's me into it.
Appreciate the help, Les
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Great tips John. Been getting some useful info from you good people.
Les
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Thanks Kjell and Sal,
Got the manual and will check the service intervals.
And definitely will have the valves checked.
All the best, Les
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Thanks Gene so much.
Great info all good stuff. I like 'fill the tank with gas' sounds rudimentary, but believe or not I have yet to do that and I have no idea which way to turn the petcock when I run dry!
I appreciate your help.
Les
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Thanks Monty, great suggestions.
I already have starting trouble and a rough idle.
I'm not really into wrenching but this might be the bike that get's me into it.
Appreciate the help, Les
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Re: New owner here in Dallas, TX
Welcome to the group Les, you are now a member of a group of very special people.
Harwood in Maryland
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From: leshall@... [W650riders]
To: W650riders
Sent: Sat, Aug 6, 2016 10:57 am
Subject: [W650riders] New owner here in Dallas, TX
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Hi y'all
Just bought an '00 W650 with 17k miles for $3,300. I think I got a good deal. There is some surface pitting and scratches on frame etc. But overall good cosmetic condition.?
It seems to run fine but before I really start riding all over I wondered if there was a checklist of things I should look out for and have corrected ASAP.?
I love how the bike handles and of course we all love how it looks. I'm looking forward to many happy miles.
Les Hall
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W 650. Workshop manual !!
Here Guys !
Get Dropbox (free)
And you got it here !!
Best. Kjell
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Get a copy of the factory service manual.Check out
items and service intervals.? I might know where you can get a
digital copy. If you don't know the history,? at the very least
IMHO you should change the engine oil & filter. Fork oil
change. Flush the front brake with new clean fluid. Check front
pads and wear on the rear drum shoes. Inspect the air filters.
Mine were disintegrating. Check tire tread depth. A valve
adjustment might be in order. Read about the rear fender cracking
problem here in the files.
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Paul
Captain Jake