Re: W650 Leather Custom Seat
Thanks, good advice. I'm in Seattle, Wa. I'll try to post a pic. --- In W650riders@..., "jake@..." <jake@...> wrote:
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Hey John! I'm thinking you might get more interested folks if you posted a picture. Right now we don't know if it's shaped exactly the same as the stock one, but in leather, or if it's a button-pleated highback '70's seat in purple-dyed leather. If you need help posting pictures or uploading them to the Photos section of our website, please don't hesitate to ask. We have lots of people ready to help. Oh yeah, we're also an international group, might want to mention where you are, those could be Canadian, Australian, or USA dollars. Shipping can be a deal-maker.
Jake
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Hello,
Do u know anyone that needs or wants a new barley used custom seat for a w650? $900 was paid for it and it only costs about $100 to refit it. I'm asking $200
Thanks, -John 2065959753
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Works a treat on ould Landrovers as well, we used to have a bit of crack cruising past the local army barracks, turned the ignition off, pumped the accelerator a few times, then flicked the ignition....kaaa boooom, followed by the radio net lighting up......Contact, contact...sunray sunray, we're taking incoming fire, over....in a panicky English accent....daren't have tried it when the Jocks or the Paras were in residence though.....
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----- Original Message ----- From: "petetibble" <petetibble@...> To: <W650riders@...> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 11:33 PM Subject: [W650riders] Re: Air injection My chum used to be a bit of a back fire king, using the cut out switch on his Triumph 6T. That was, until one backfire launched his baffles down the high street like a mortar bomb.... Pete
--- In W650riders@..., "James Franklin" <jimw650@...> wrote:
Back firing can be cool, some people have made it into an art..engine
cut-off switch off, rev throttle, turn cut-off back on release clutch with
bike now rolling in gear..KA-BLAM!!! Not that I have ever done that though.
James Franklin 2411 Pine Summit DR. E Jacksonville, Florida 32211
808-225-0994 (cell)
From: "Ray Nielsen" <rnielse1@...> Reply-To: W650riders@... To: W650riders@... Subject: [W650riders] Re: Air injection Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:48:33 -0000
--- In W650riders@..., "G.L. Kobe" <cowdog_bluehealer@> wrote: > > Yes. You will no longer backfire on decel. > > > Kirk Johnson <johnsonkirk@> wrote: > Is there any advantage or disadvantage to removing the > air injection system? > Thanks, > Kirk > No need to remove it. Just plug the line going from the air cleaner
to the control valve. I used a rubber stopper, inserted it into the
tube and reconnected the tube to the control valve.
Voila, no more backfiring.
Ray Nielsen, in Minneapolis and going for a ride today.
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Re: Thinking about getting rid of my w650
both roadster sportties I was looking at got sold. It's sign that I should keep my DoubleYa --- In W650riders@..., "Jonhaddock@..." <jonhaddock@...> wrote:
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Sounds great. I've always had a soft spot for the '70's Cafe Racer.
got any pictures?
Jon
I think the Sportster is a great partner to the W650. I have both a 2000 W650 and a 1996 Sportster XL1200S Sport. The Sport has adjustable Showa forks and dual front discs. If you add rearsets and clipons and a decent seat, then it becomes a really fun scoot. '
No, it is not particularly fast, but the wide flat powerband and more than ample torque combine with decent handling and braking to make it easy to ride without requiring a lot of work. If you switch to 17" wheels and sticky tires it gets even better. Don't worry about the vibration if you buy an older one with a solid-mount engine, just install BalanceMasters active vibration dampers and fiddle with the final drive ratios (or even switch to chain drive) and once it is dialed in, then just enjoy it.
Although any Japanese 600 can run rings around it, that is balanced out by the double-takes from all of the head-to-toe leather-clad dumplings on their cool Harleys who are cruising along at 30mph when you pass them on the outside of a curve.
You do have to think about it though. One of the classic disparaging comments about Harleys is that they vibrate so much that parts fall off. It is true, too. the first time I rode the Sporty any distance, both mirrors, the taillight, and one turn signal fell off. I felt like I had finally gained admittance to a long and proud tradition!
At any rate, keep the W650, get a Sportster too.
Alex
--- In W650riders@..., "Larry Botheras" <larry.botheras@> wrote:
Think long and hard. unless it's tricked up the 1200 sporty will feel
slower than the W IMHO, it's not that much more powerful (HD never quote)
but it is a lot heavier
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Behalf Of John Sent: 11 July 2007 06:39 To: W650riders@... Subject: [W650riders] Thinking about getting rid of my w650
I found a sportster 1200r that's tempting me to get rid of the w. What
are your thoughts on the 2006 sportster 1200 roadster?
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I had a 441 Victor Special, with a compression release valve
from a 2 stroke installed in the left side of the cylinder head. The valve is
controlled by a small lever on the bars, and does not mechanically interfere
with any head parts or the piston. (used this instead of the valve lifter for
starting).
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So, with the freedom to use it at any time while the engine
was running or not, you could (and I did) open this at speed, cracking the
throttle wide open and enjoying the 4 feet of flame and racket coming from the
left side. The blue-hairs at stoplights noticed it too.? ;^)
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Dennis
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Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 3:33 PM
Subject: [W650riders] Re: Air
injection
My chum used to be a bit of a back fire king, using the cut out switch
on his Triumph 6T. That was, until one backfire launched his baffles down
the high street like a mortar bomb.... Pete
--- In W650riders@yahoogroups.com,
"James Franklin" > wrote: > > Back
firing can be cool, some people have made it into an art..engine >
cut-off switch off, rev throttle, turn cut-off back on release clutch with
> bike now rolling in gear..KA-BLAM!!! Not that I have ever done
that though.
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My chum used to be a bit of a back fire king, using the cut out switch on his Triumph 6T. That was, until one backfire launched his baffles down the high street like a mortar bomb.... Pete --- In W650riders@..., "James Franklin" <jimw650@...> wrote: Back firing can be cool, some people have made it into an
art..engine cut-off switch off, rev throttle, turn cut-off back on release clutch with bike now rolling in gear..KA-BLAM!!! Not that I have ever done that though.
James Franklin 2411 Pine Summit DR. E Jacksonville, Florida 32211
808-225-0994 (cell)
From: "Ray Nielsen" <rnielse1@...> Reply-To: W650riders@... To: W650riders@... Subject: [W650riders] Re: Air injection Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2007 15:48:33 -0000
--- In W650riders@..., "G.L. Kobe" <cowdog_bluehealer@> wrote: > > Yes. You will no longer backfire on decel. > > > Kirk Johnson <johnsonkirk@> wrote: > Is there any advantage or disadvantage to removing the > air injection system? > Thanks, > Kirk > No need to remove it. Just plug the line going from the air
cleaner to the control valve. I used a rubber stopper, inserted it into the tube and reconnected the tube to the control valve.
Voila, no more backfiring.
Ray Nielsen, in Minneapolis and going for a ride today.
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That model of the Henderson was the first patrol vehicle the Ontario Provincial Police used, with in-line four cyl. engines. Surprisingly, it took them almost ten years to add cars to the fleet. I wonder how they got about during the winter? There's a small pic of the Henderson at:
Ray F.
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On 13-Jul-07, at 2:29 PM, Larry Botheras wrote: CAROLE Nash, the lady who owns the big UK bike insurance broker owns a fire truck red one like that¡.
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Essex UK
W650 Wrench
2007 Moto Guzzi Norge
1977 KH400
1978 CD175
1994 Ural Solo
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From: W650riders@... [mailto:W650riders@...] On Behalf Of Ruari McLennan Sent: 12 July 2007 23:05 To: W650 Riders Subject: [W650riders] Henderson
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Hi:
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Here's that '31 Henderson again.
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Ruari
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This time I am serious about selling my W. It is a 2001 Green & Cream, the only color. With 2600 miles on it, like new... Central Coast of California... Still Cal legal. Extras include , matching Corbin Gunfighter, extra carb. kit not installed, full shop manual, orignal tool kit & spare mirrors. Asking $ 5300. Please request a pic...
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Re: throttle sensor adjustment
It's a special tool, I think best would be to ask a Kawasaki Dealer or mechanic and the standard he is not 100% sure about it either. I would call up a Kawasaki mechanic and ask for advice on the standard.
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Good shot at it, Anita!??? And thank your husband for us.? But...? Just to forestall the thousands of other people who will (I hope) display their ignorance by asking the same thing...?? And to put your husband on the hot seat, which is part of the fun? of our group (I've been there, believe me) What's a throttle sensor setting adapter?? and what is standard? ? Ruari ? ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 8:44 PM Subject: Re: [W650riders] throttle sensor adjustment
This is
the info I got from my husband.
Connect the throttle sensor setting adapter between the sensor wire connectors.
start engine
operate engine at idle speed
loosen sensor mounting screws
adjust sensor mounting position to set the sensor output voltage to standard and tighten the mounting screws.
He actually only adjusted my throttle not the sensor.
james .net> wrote: I have found that my bike's acceleration at full throttle at,say, 3,500- 4,000 rpm, is underwhelming in terms of an increase over 3/4 throttle. I'm beginning to suspect that the throttle position sensor, which does not provide full advance of 35 degrees until 5,000,is too conservative. Happily, the throttle sensor is adjustable.
Naturally, one does not want to go to far with this as it may provoke "knock." Does any have any experience adjusting this thing for a better advance curve?
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As a point of drivel info---the Indian was popular with cops because the left throttle allowed them to fire their guns right-handed.? The rocker clutch was also on the left as on Hardley.which had a left shift
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To operate the hand shift.. You start the bike by kicking it through, control grip opposite the throttle, operated in a similer way as the throttle..retard to start, then advance as you pick up speed..cars and bikes advance automatically now of
course. While pressing down on the clutch with your left foot, you would select first by pushing the gear shift forward with your hand, the lever was on one side of the tank (Harley, I believe, had a left hand shift, right hand throttle, Indian..a right hand shift, left hand throttle..anyway, I would remember better had I ever operated one, but I only read about it..and thought the foot clutch thing was a stupid idea, so I really didn't retain the info all that well). Each of the successive gears was selected by pulling the lever back..most had three..some had a reverse as side cars were very common then. James Franklin 2411 Pine Summit DR. E Jacksonville, Florida 32211 808-225-0994 (cell) From: Ruari McLennan < r.mclennan@shaw.ca> Reply-To: W650riders@yahoogroups.comTo: W650riders@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [W650riders] Henderson Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:17:19 -0700 Thanks for the primer, James. How did the hand shift work, exactly? Twist shifting? And on another unrelated topic, I vaguely recall my Dad telling me some bikes had a hand operated timing advance control lever for descending hills etc., but I didn't listen well enough, do you know what proportion pre- 1960 had them? And UK or Britbikes? Ruari ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Franklin" < jimw650@hotmail.com> To: < W650riders@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [W650riders] Henderson > Most of the early motorcycles had them, at least early American > motorcycles. .my book on American motorcycles
features over 100 makes..I > left > it at my brothers house where I cannot look at it right now, but I do > remember seeing the foot clutch/hand shift on many of them..I think > technically, it has to be the spring loaded foot clutch and not the > "see-saw" type to be an actual suicide clutch, but having a foot operated > clutch on a motorcycle doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. > > We didn't start getting hand clutch/foot shift in USA made motorcycles > until > after WWII. The HDs made under license by a Japanese company made the > change before the licensor ever considered it, and the original > Springfield > Indian (which owned Henderson) went to its grave with foot clutches. > > Suicide shifts were the spring loaded foot clutch, hand shift guys. > > > > James Franklin > 2411 Pine Summit DR. E > Jacksonville, Florida 32211 > >
808-225-0994 (cell) > > > > > > From: Ruari McLennan < r.mclennan@shaw.ca> > Reply-To: W650riders@yahoogroups.com> To: W650riders@yahoogroups.com> Subject: Re: [W650riders] Henderson > Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 20:53:10 -0700 > > Errr... Despite my vast knowledge of other fields, I'm still groping my > way > in bikes - what's a suicide shifter? Jake making the wrong bikini joke? > > Ruari > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Tachokay@cs.com> To: W650riders@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 8:06 PM > Subject: Re: [W650riders] Henderson > > > Close, but no
suicide shifter... I thought only Harleys and Indians had > the suicide shifter... > > In a message dated 7/12/2007 6:07:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > r.mclennan@shaw.ca writes: > > > Hi: > > Here's that '31 Henderson again. > > Ruari > > > > > Rrrose. > @>-->-- > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > Go to temporary photos site - :: > Send an email to W650riders-nomail@yahoogroups.com to stop email delivery. > :: > Send an email to W650riders-normal@yahoogroups.com to resume email > delivery. > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _
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CAROLE Nash, the lady who owns the big UK bike insurance broker
owns a fire truck red one like that¡.
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Larry Botheras
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Essex UK
W650 Wrench
2007 Moto Guzzi Norge
1977 KH400
1978 CD175
1994 Ural Solo
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Sent: 12 July 2007 23:05
To: W650 Riders
Subject: [W650riders] Henderson
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Here's
that '31 Henderson again.
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Re: NWC: another biker book
I saw this and just had to post it.
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Motorcycling Through Menopause
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NWC: The Art of the Motorcycle book
Cruising around Barnes $ Noble booksellers on line, I ran
across used copies in good condition of The Art of the Motorcycle, from the
Guggenheim display for only $19.50.? If you collect bike books, or only
want to have one, this is the one to get. Beautiful pictures.
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Re: W650 Leather Custom Seat
Hey John! I'm thinking you might get more interested folks if you posted a picture. Right now we don't know if it's shaped exactly the same as the stock one, but in leather, or if it's a button-pleated highback '70's seat in purple-dyed leather. If you need help posting pictures or uploading them to the Photos section of our website, please don't hesitate to ask. We have lots of people ready to help. Oh yeah, we're also an international group, might want to mention where you are, those could be Canadian, Australian, or USA dollars. Shipping can be a deal-maker.
Jake
Original Message: ----------------- From: John schnozejt@... Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 17:44:26 -0000 To: W650riders@... Subject: [W650riders] W650 Leather Custom Seat
Hello,
Do u know anyone that needs or wants a new barley used custom seat for a w650? $900 was paid for it and it only costs about $100 to refit it. I'm asking $200
Thanks, -John 2065959753
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Hello,
Do u know anyone that needs or wants a new barley used custom seat for a w650? $900 was paid for it and it only costs about $100 to refit it. I'm asking $200
Thanks, -John 2065959753
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Re: NWC..Was Its the War NWC
Hey Roy! It's You may talk all funny and such, but you're very welcome there!
Jake
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BlankI've lost the new 'Its the War' group E-mail address. I don't join in much but like to see what others are discussing. Can someone remind me please? Or am I not worthy... Roy.
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I've lost the new 'Its the War'?group E-mail address.
I don't join in much but like to see what others are discussing.
Can someone?remind me please?
Or am I not worthy...
Roy.
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To operate the hand shift..
You start the bike by kicking it through, control grip opposite the throttle, operated in a similer way as the throttle..retard to start, then advance as you pick up speed..cars and bikes advance automatically now of course.
While pressing down on the clutch with your left foot, you would select first by pushing the gear shift forward with your hand, the lever was on one side of the tank (Harley, I believe, had a left hand shift, right hand throttle, Indian..a right hand shift, left hand throttle..anyway, I would remember better had I ever operated one, but I only read about it..and thought the foot clutch thing was a stupid idea, so I really didn't retain the info all that well). Each of the successive gears was selected by pulling the lever back..most had three..some had a reverse as side cars were very common then.
James Franklin 2411 Pine Summit DR. E Jacksonville, Florida 32211
808-225-0994 (cell)
From: Ruari McLennan <r.mclennan@...> Reply-To: W650riders@... To: W650riders@... Subject: Re: [W650riders] Henderson Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 22:17:19 -0700
Thanks for the primer, James. How did the hand shift work, exactly? Twist shifting?
And on another unrelated topic, I vaguely recall my Dad telling me some bikes had a hand operated timing advance control lever for descending hills etc., but I didn't listen well enough, do you know what proportion pre- 1960 had them? And UK or Britbikes?
Ruari
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----- Original Message ----- From: "James Franklin" <jimw650@...> To: <W650riders@...> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [W650riders] Henderson Most of the early motorcycles had them, at least early American motorcycles..my book on American motorcycles features over 100 makes..I left it at my brothers house where I cannot look at it right now, but I do remember seeing the foot clutch/hand shift on many of them..I think technically, it has to be the spring loaded foot clutch and not the "see-saw" type to be an actual suicide clutch, but having a foot operated clutch on a motorcycle doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.
We didn't start getting hand clutch/foot shift in USA made motorcycles until after WWII. The HDs made under license by a Japanese company made the change before the licensor ever considered it, and the original Springfield Indian (which owned Henderson) went to its grave with foot clutches.
Suicide shifts were the spring loaded foot clutch, hand shift guys.
James Franklin 2411 Pine Summit DR. E Jacksonville, Florida 32211
808-225-0994 (cell)
From: Ruari McLennan <r.mclennan@...> Reply-To: W650riders@... To: W650riders@... Subject: Re: [W650riders] Henderson Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 20:53:10 -0700
Errr... Despite my vast knowledge of other fields, I'm still groping my way in bikes - what's a suicide shifter? Jake making the wrong bikini joke?
Ruari ----- Original Message ----- From: Tachokay@... To: W650riders@... Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 8:06 PM Subject: Re: [W650riders] Henderson
Close, but no suicide shifter... I thought only Harleys and Indians had the suicide shifter...
In a message dated 7/12/2007 6:07:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, r.mclennan@... writes:
Hi:
Here's that '31 Henderson again.
Ruari
Rrrose. @>-->--
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The hand operated advance/retard lever was common on Brit bikes before the development of the spring loaded auto-advance mechanism. You set it retarded for starting, minimising kick-backs and ensuring a slow, lazy tick-over from cold, and advanced it for fast running. You could also retard the ignition to slog up hills, which was ideal if you were pulling a chair with the family on board!
Jon
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Thanks for the primer, James. How did the hand shift work, exactly? Twist shifting?
And on another unrelated topic, I vaguely recall my Dad telling me some bikes had a hand operated timing advance control lever for descending hills etc., but I didn't listen well enough, do you know what proportion pre- 1960 had them? And UK or Britbikes?
Ruari
----- Original Message ----- From: "James Franklin" <jimw650@...> To: <W650riders@...> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [W650riders] Henderson
Most of the early motorcycles had them, at least early American motorcycles..my book on American motorcycles features over 100 makes..I left it at my brothers house where I cannot look at it right now, but I do remember seeing the foot clutch/hand shift on many of them..I think technically, it has to be the spring loaded foot clutch and not the "see-saw" type to be an actual suicide clutch, but having a foot operated clutch on a motorcycle doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me.
We didn't start getting hand clutch/foot shift in USA made motorcycles until after WWII. The HDs made under license by a Japanese company made the change before the licensor ever considered it, and the original Springfield Indian (which owned Henderson) went to its grave with foot clutches.
Suicide shifts were the spring loaded foot clutch, hand shift guys.
James Franklin 2411 Pine Summit DR. E Jacksonville, Florida 32211
808-225-0994 (cell)
From: Ruari McLennan <r.mclennan@...> Reply-To: W650riders@... To: W650riders@... Subject: Re: [W650riders] Henderson Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 20:53:10 -0700
Errr... Despite my vast knowledge of other fields, I'm still groping my way in bikes - what's a suicide shifter? Jake making the wrong bikini joke?
Ruari ----- Original Message ----- From: Tachokay@... To: W650riders@... Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 8:06 PM Subject: Re: [W650riders] Henderson
Close, but no suicide shifter... I thought only Harleys and Indians had the suicide shifter...
In a message dated 7/12/2007 6:07:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, r.mclennan@... writes:
Hi:
Here's that '31 Henderson again.
Ruari
Rrrose. @>-->--
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Re: Thinking about getting rid of my w650
Sounds great. I've always had a soft spot for the '70's Cafe Racer.
got any pictures?
Jon
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I think the Sportster is a great partner to the W650. I have both a 2000 W650 and a 1996 Sportster XL1200S Sport. The Sport has adjustable Showa forks and dual front discs. If you add rearsets and clipons and a decent seat, then it becomes a really fun scoot. '
No, it is not particularly fast, but the wide flat powerband and more than ample torque combine with decent handling and braking to make it easy to ride without requiring a lot of work. If you switch to 17" wheels and sticky tires it gets even better. Don't worry about the vibration if you buy an older one with a solid-mount engine, just install BalanceMasters active vibration dampers and fiddle with the final drive ratios (or even switch to chain drive) and once it is dialed in, then just enjoy it.
Although any Japanese 600 can run rings around it, that is balanced out by the double-takes from all of the head-to-toe leather-clad dumplings on their cool Harleys who are cruising along at 30mph when you pass them on the outside of a curve.
You do have to think about it though. One of the classic disparaging comments about Harleys is that they vibrate so much that parts fall off. It is true, too. the first time I rode the Sporty any distance, both mirrors, the taillight, and one turn signal fell off. I felt like I had finally gained admittance to a long and proud tradition!
At any rate, keep the W650, get a Sportster too.
Alex
--- In W650riders@..., "Larry Botheras" <larry.botheras@...> wrote:
Think long and hard. unless it's tricked up the 1200 sporty will feel
slower than the W IMHO, it's not that much more powerful (HD never quote)
but it is a lot heavier
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Behalf Of John Sent: 11 July 2007 06:39 To: W650riders@... Subject: [W650riders] Thinking about getting rid of my w650
I found a sportster 1200r that's tempting me to get rid of the w. What
are your thoughts on the 2006 sportster 1200 roadster?
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