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Re: Clutch Adjustment

Anita Reid
 

Dennis,

Thanks!!! Yeah he knows about that. We are stoked about the ride it'll be my first long ride. Going from LA to Monterey, its a great ride along Big Sur. He rides a 04 Triumph Thruxton. Of course when we ride up together to any place everyone thinks the W is a brit bike. I just love bursting their bubble. :)

Anita

"Dennis J. Guggemos" wrote:

Okie dokie, have fun on your run.
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Oh, even if hubby finds the sprocket as ok, there may be a fair amount? of old chain lube and road grit built up in the cavity. Turns into something like hard tarmac, should be cleaned out every so often. He'll see it if he pops the cover off. If you do replace the sprocket, don't get an original Kawasaki part, it's soft steel, get one from ?. Of course, if it is visibly hooked, probably time for a chain and rear sprocket too.
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Dennis
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----- Original Message -----
From: Anita Reid
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 10:13 PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Clutch Adjustment

Dennis, thank you very much for the input. Previous owner replaced the tires already. I ordered the short fender with small tail light from the W650shop.de so I should be good there. I'll have hubby check out the sprocket, it's great to have a slave to do all the dirty work, haha.

Anita
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Re: Clutch Adjustment

 

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Okie dokie, have fun on your run.
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Oh, even if hubby finds the sprocket as ok, there may be a fair amount? of old chain lube and road grit built up in the cavity. Turns into something like hard tarmac, should be cleaned out every so often. He'll see it if he pops the cover off. If you do replace the sprocket, don't get an original Kawasaki part, it's soft steel, get one from ?. Of course, if it is visibly hooked, probably time for a chain and rear sprocket too.
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Dennis
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----- Original Message -----
From: Anita Reid
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 10:13 PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Clutch Adjustment

Dennis, thank you very much for the input. Previous owner replaced the tires already. I ordered the short fender with small tail light from the W650shop.de so I should be good there. I'll have hubby check out the sprocket, it's great to have a slave to do all the dirty work, haha.

Anita

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Re: bring back the w650 to the us - Petition

 

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Biff
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Yeah, I'm a fan of that one. The August Cycle World did a write up on it, really liked it. Recommended reading if the bike peaks your interest. Detuned 650R, nice power curve. Like a W on steroids. Whole different look, though.
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They're releasing it as an early 08, but not for California. I hope they bring a Cal legal model in next year. Won't meet smog now.
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Here's the US distributor page on it...
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If you want to read what the owners think of the Versys, go here...
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Dennis
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 9:55 PM
Subject: [W650riders] Re: bring back the w650 to the us - Petition

---I doubt if you see the W come back. I think values on W 650s will
start to go up and bringing more over will dampen that.
For what its' worth, Kawasaki is supposed to bring this to the
states in 2008. IT's got a lot of the Ninja 650R in it and if you're
a parallel twin fan, what's not to like?

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Re: Clutch Adjustment

Anita Reid
 

Dennis, thank you very much for the input. Previous owner replaced the tires already. I ordered the short fender with small tail light from the W650shop.de so I should be good there. I'll have hubby check out the sprocket, it's great to have a slave to do all the dirty work, haha.

Anita
"Dennis J. Guggemos" wrote:

Anita
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Weaknesses on the W are a cracking rear fender, poor front tire if you still have the original Accolade ribbed tire, and if you have some miles on it the front sprocket may hook. All stuff you can inspect and take care of if needed before a long ride. Other than that, no problems.
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Dennis
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----- Original Message -----
From: Anita Reid
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Clutch Adjustment

Thanks, Ruari. It had me worried since I have a trip planned in a few weeks to go up the coast in California to the Moto GP/Laguna Seca. I really appreciate all the? reassuring responses. It has been driving my husband nuts too. Are there any other things to look out for about the W650 that is different from other bikes? I ordered a bunch of things already from the W650shop.de just to make it a little bit more cafe style. :) Anita
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Re: bring back the w650 to the us - Petition

 

---I doubt if you see the W come back. I think values on W 650s will
start to go up and bringing more over will dampen that.
For what its' worth, Kawasaki is supposed to bring this to the
states in 2008. IT's got a lot of the Ninja 650R in it and if you're
a parallel twin fan, what's not to like?









In W650riders@..., "John " <schnozejt@...> wrote:

Hello all,

Ive started a petition to bring back the w650 - please sign it
here:



Here's one of the posting i've put on craigslist about this



Please tell all your friends and family about this

Thanks


Re: Clutch Adjustment

 

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Anita
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Weaknesses on the W are a cracking rear fender, poor front tire if you still have the original Accolade ribbed tire, and if you have some miles on it the front sprocket may hook. All stuff you can inspect and take care of if needed before a long ride. Other than that, no problems.
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Dennis
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----- Original Message -----
From: Anita Reid
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 8:48 PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Clutch Adjustment

Thanks, Ruari. It had me worried since I have a trip planned in a few weeks to go up the coast in California to the Moto GP/Laguna Seca. I really appreciate all the? reassuring responses. It has been driving my husband nuts too. Are there any other things to look out for about the W650 that is different from other bikes? I ordered a bunch of things already from the W650shop.de just to make it a little bit more cafe style. :) Anita

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Re: Clutch Adjustment

Anita Reid
 

Thanks, Ruari. It had me worried since I have a trip planned in a few weeks to go up the coast in California to the Moto GP/Laguna Seca. I really appreciate all the? reassuring responses. It has been driving my husband nuts too. Are there any other things to look out for about the W650 that is different from other bikes? I ordered a bunch of things already from the W650shop.de just to make it a little bit more cafe style. :) Anita

Ruari McLennan wrote:

Yes, Anita, they are all like that, they grab quickly at the very end of the range. ? I tried to have mine engage the clutch sooner (closer to the grip), but all that happened was I was left with some cable slackness.? Somethig to just get used to.
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Ruari McLennan
----- Original Message -----
From: Anita Reid
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Clutch Adjustment

Sal,

Thank you very much this is very helpful. My husband already made these adjustments and it is a little better. Yeah we figured the clutch couldn't be worn yet with these miles, but weren't sure how the previous riders rode this bike :)

Anita

Salvyrider <salvyrider@gmail.com> wrote:
The only real adjustment is to ensure full release. You can't adjust for wear like you could in the old days.

Hi, Anita.

First adjustment is at the hand grip. First slide the rubber boot back. Then unlock the large thumbwheel, then turn the small one until the handle is loose - so you can get at least a nickel's worth of play where the handle meets the housing. Then re-lock the large thumbwheel and replace the boot. If this is unattainable, you can adjust where the cable grips, accessible on the left side of the engine, after removing the sprocket cover (if you go this route, be careful to keep track of the cover bolts. They are all different lengths.) In all likelihood, though, the hand lever adjustment will be enough with only 12K miles.

The W's clutch tends to be a bit grabby - that is, it grabs late in the handle travel and there's only a very narrow feather zone. This is normal. One of the few weaknesses of the bike, IMHO. Wish we had a nice hydraulic clutch like the Mean Streak.

-Sal

On 7/3/07, Anita <anita_reid@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Any idea on how to adjust the clutch on the W650? I bought my W650
used with almost 12,000 miles and noticed there isn't much clutch. My
husband looked in the Owners Manual and there was not a description on
how to adjust the clutch. I figure there might be someone else out
there that experienced the same thing and might be able to help. Thanks





Re: Sag or Preload; & suspension

 

Motorcycle Consumer News latest issue has an excellent article on
suspension setup. And there's a book called Total Control by Lee
Parks which has a very good chapter on this stuff. Both the W and my
Beemer need new suspenders, an expensive proposition. Sag for my bank
account!
Bill E.


Re: Another exhaust question

 


Re: Clutch Adjustment

Ruari McLennan
 

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Yes, Anita, they are all like that, they grab quickly at the very end of the range. ? I tried to have mine engage the clutch sooner (closer to the grip), but all that happened was I was left with some cable slackness.? Somethig to just get used to.
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Ruari McLennan

----- Original Message -----
From: Anita Reid
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Clutch Adjustment

Sal,

Thank you very much this is very helpful. My husband already made these adjustments and it is a little better. Yeah we figured the clutch couldn't be worn yet with these miles, but weren't sure how the previous riders rode this bike :)

Anita

Salvyrider <salvyrider@...> wrote:
The only real adjustment is to ensure full release. You can't adjust for wear like you could in the old days.

Hi, Anita.

First adjustment is at the hand grip. First slide the rubber boot back. Then unlock the large thumbwheel, then turn the small one until the handle is loose - so you can get at least a nickel's worth of play where the handle meets the housing. Then re-lock the large thumbwheel and replace the boot. If this is unattainable, you can adjust where the cable grips, accessible on the left side of the engine, after removing the sprocket cover (if you go this route, be careful to keep track of the cover bolts. They are all different lengths.) In all likelihood, though, the hand lever adjustment will be enough with only 12K miles.

The W's clutch tends to be a bit grabby - that is, it grabs late in the handle travel and there's only a very narrow feather zone. This is normal. One of the few weaknesses of the bike, IMHO. Wish we had a nice hydraulic clutch like the Mean Streak.

-Sal

On 7/3/07, Anita <anita_reid@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Any idea on how to adjust the clutch on the W650? I bought my W650
used with almost 12,000 miles and noticed there isn't much clutch. My
husband looked in the Owners Manual and there was not a description on
how to adjust the clutch. I figure there might be someone else out
there that experienced the same thing and might be able to help. Thanks




Re: Another exhaust question

Ruari McLennan
 

I'm not aware of any that immediately come to mind in the USA or Europe- you could ask Jon if he knows or can advise who was the subcontractor for the header pipes for the Fishpipes. However, here are some Japanese companies, which may include POSH, Daytona, Daiwa and K-Factory :



Good luck & let me know if you find any!

Ruari

----- Original Message -----
From: "salvyrider" <salvyrider@...>
To: <W650riders@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 4:00 PM
Subject: [W650riders] Another exhaust question


Hi, Gang.

This is pie-in-the-sky talk, but I was just wondering ...

Someday I'd like to mess around with different exhaust setups for the
W. But I do not want to fold, spindle or mutilate my stock system.

Other than the somewhat pricey stainless header pipes available from
W650shop.de*, is anybody aware of any other header pipes that could be
adapted to the W? Old Triumph, New Triumph, KZ-series twin, Yami
XS650, etc.? I am assuming that - sans crossover - there may be
something out there that would fit.

Would not care about double-wall construction - it would be just for
fun anyway. Would love to salvage something but I don't know what to
look for.

Thanks.

-S

*from stainless head pipes
polished stainless steel, for own aftermarket silencers, kicked-up
style or low style as stock, ask for details, pair ..... ? 298.00

Auspuffkrmmer mit grerem Durchla (38 mm Leistungskrmmer)fr
eigene Schalldmpfer, hochgefhrter Ausla oder untenlaufend wie
Serie, polierter Edelstahl, Details auf Anfrage, Paar.....? 298,00



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Re: Clutch Adjustment

 


Re: Clutch Adjustment

Anita Reid
 

Sal,

Thank you very much this is very helpful. My husband already made these adjustments and it is a little better. Yeah we figured the clutch couldn't be worn yet with these miles, but weren't sure how the previous riders rode this bike :)

Anita

Salvyrider wrote:

The only real adjustment is to ensure full release. You can't adjust for wear like you could in the old days.

Hi, Anita.

First adjustment is at the hand grip. First slide the rubber boot back. Then unlock the large thumbwheel, then turn the small one until the handle is loose - so you can get at least a nickel's worth of play where the handle meets the housing. Then re-lock the large thumbwheel and replace the boot. If this is unattainable, you can adjust where the cable grips, accessible on the left side of the engine, after removing the sprocket cover (if you go this route, be careful to keep track of the cover bolts. They are all different lengths.) In all likelihood, though, the hand lever adjustment will be enough with only 12K miles.

The W's clutch tends to be a bit grabby - that is, it grabs late in the handle travel and there's only a very narrow feather zone. This is normal. One of the few weaknesses of the bike, IMHO. Wish we had a nice hydraulic clutch like the Mean Streak.

-Sal

On 7/3/07, Anita <anita_reid@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Any idea on how to adjust the clutch on the W650? I bought my W650
used with almost 12,000 miles and noticed there isn't much clutch. My
husband looked in the Owners Manual and there was not a description on
how to adjust the clutch. I figure there might be someone else out
there that experienced the same thing and might be able to help. Thanks




Sag or Preload; & suspension

Ruari McLennan
 

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Hi, I popped by the motorcycle co-op today and they measured my W650 preload "sag."
They are not terribly familiar with older style bikes, they are a sportbike/racer shop.
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I have Hagon progressive front fork springs, and Hagon 20 Kg. rear classic shocks.
I weigh 198 lbs dry and 217 on the bike with gear.
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They suggested 30 mm front;? and 35 mm. rear was right for sportbikes.
My results were: Front 50 mm.; and rear 27 mm.
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Details were:
Front 170 mm. unloaded; 130 one bounce; 120 with full load? = 50mm.
Rear? 160 mm. unloaded; 160 one bounce (note no difference); 133 loaded?= 27 mm.
One bounce means bike loaded under its own weight, no rider.
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They suggested I use longer spacers in front, and go back to the factory 18 Kg. shocks at the rear.?
Or see if I can adjust the Hagon rear shocks.? They said the longest setting?turned out (which I think I'm on) had the most preload, which I didn't realize, I thought it went the other way.? So I guess I turn it clockwise from the bottom to shorten it to increase the preload sag?? I'm confused.
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Any comments from you folks?? I wonder if sportbike measurements are applicable here, particularly when the W650 rear shocks are so vertical by comparison.
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Ruari McLennan
Victoria BC
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Another exhaust question

 

Hi, Gang.

This is pie-in-the-sky talk, but I was just wondering ...

Someday I'd like to mess around with different exhaust setups for the
W. But I do not want to fold, spindle or mutilate my stock system.

Other than the somewhat pricey stainless header pipes available from
W650shop.de*, is anybody aware of any other header pipes that could be
adapted to the W? Old Triumph, New Triumph, KZ-series twin, Yami
XS650, etc.? I am assuming that - sans crossover - there may be
something out there that would fit.

Would not care about double-wall construction - it would be just for
fun anyway. Would love to salvage something but I don't know what to
look for.

Thanks.

-S

*from stainless head pipes
polished stainless steel, for own aftermarket silencers, kicked-up
style or low style as stock, ask for details, pair ..... € 298.00

Auspuffkr¨¹mmer mit gr??erem Durchla? (38 mm Leistungskr¨¹mmer)f¨¹r
eigene Schalld?mpfer, hochgef¨¹hrter Ausla? oder untenlaufend wie
Serie, polierter Edelstahl, Details auf Anfrage, Paar.....€ 298,00


Re: Yamaha RD 350 Content

 

You win on two-strokes and four-strokes. How many bicycles have you got? :-)

----- Original Message -----
From: "James Franklin" <jimw650@...>
To: <W650riders@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 7:38 PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Yamaha RD 350 Content



No pictures yet..the orange one is pretty though.. I am just trying to catch
up with Hazel..
with my two strokes anyway..

1990 Honda NS 50 (Florida)
1976 Yamaha DT 175 (Hawaii)
1975 Yamaha RD 350 C (Florida)
1974 Yamaha RD 350 B (Florida)
1971 Yamaha DT 250 (Florida)

Add my 4 strokes, and I think I am ahead of Hazel...

2000 Kawasaki W 650 (California)
2000 kawasaki W 650 (Florida)
1995 Honda CBR 600 F3 (Hawaii)
1989 Honda CB1 (Hawaii)
1988 Honda NT 650 Hawk (Florida)
1988 Honda NT 650 Hawk (Hawaii)
1981 Honda CB 900 Custom (California)


From: Laura <laurauk.rider@...>
Reply-To: W650riders@...
To: W650riders@...
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Yamaha RD 350 Content
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2007 19:23:21 +0100

Have you got any pictures of the bikes?

Laura



On 03/07/07, James Franklin <jimw650@...> wrote:

I bought two RD 350s today, a 1974 RD 350 B (purple) and a 1975 RD 350 C
(orange). OK, so I am lonely/bored and this is what I do.

The plan is to use one for parts and make one a runner, however, both seem
to be intact..the 74 has a holed piston, but everything else is there..the
74 is kinda rusty too.

Anyway, not a big investment yet, it should be fun getting them up and
running...or at least, getting one of them up and running.



James Franklin
2411 Pine Summit DR. E
Jacksonville, Florida 32211

808-225-0994 (cell)

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Don't get caught with egg on your face. Play Chicktionary!




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Need a brain boost? Recharge with a stimulating game. Play now!




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Re: Clutch Adjustment

 


Re: Clutch Adjustment

Anita Reid
 

Thank You Mark,

My husband tried to adjust it, but like I said there isn't any description in the manual on how to do it. Overall I love the bike, most people here in the US mistake it for a Triumph.

Anita

Mark Campbell wrote:

Hi Anita,

I think you will find that they are all pretty much like that, if adjusted
as per the manual.You quickly get used to it though, and the adjustment
doesn't drift....the W always feels a bit weird, clutch wise, for a few
miles after I have been riding something else...

Mark,

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To: <W650riders@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 10:52 PM
Subject: [W650riders] Clutch Adjustment

> Any idea on how to adjust the clutch on the W650? I bought my W650
> used with almost 12,000 miles and noticed there isn't much clutch. My
> husband looked in the Owners Manual and there was not a description on
> how to adjust the clutch. I figure there might be someone else out
> there that experienced the same thing and might be able to help. Thanks
>
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Re: Clutch Adjustment

 

Hi Anita,

I think you will find that they are all pretty much like that, if adjusted as per the manual.You quickly get used to it though, and the adjustment doesn't drift....the W always feels a bit weird, clutch wise, for a few miles after I have been riding something else...

Mark,

----- Original Message -----
From: "Anita" <anita_reid@...>
To: <W650riders@...>
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 10:52 PM
Subject: [W650riders] Clutch Adjustment


Any idea on how to adjust the clutch on the W650? I bought my W650
used with almost 12,000 miles and noticed there isn't much clutch. My
husband looked in the Owners Manual and there was not a description on
how to adjust the clutch. I figure there might be someone else out
there that experienced the same thing and might be able to help. Thanks



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Re: Virginia Introduces $3550 Speeding Ticket

 

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Some clarity; from the Virginia code spelling out the "Civil Remedial Fees" bill signed by their gov....
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"The legislation enacts Virginia Code ¡ì 46.2-206.1,

which creates ¡°civil remedial fees¡± to be assessed against Virginia residents convicted of

certain motor vehicle-related or driving crimes. These civil remedial fees will not apply

to traffic infractions like speeding. They apply only to certain motor vehicle-related or

driving felonies and misdemeanors (certain motor vehicle-related or driving offenses

which are crimes)."

So, speed away (if you're not in the midst of committing a felony).
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Dennis
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 2:47 PM
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Virginia Introduces $3550 Speeding Ticket

Ah, a revenue maker. Not applicable to out of state drivers, though.
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Radar detectors are illegal there.
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Don't see anything about HDs.
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Dennis
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, July 03, 2007 2:19 PM
Subject: [W650riders] Virginia Introduces $3550 Speeding Ticket

Be cool in Virginia. Only Fat, noisy Harley riding are ?exempt.