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Re: kick start return spring

 

Bill!?
thank you so much for clearing up that mystery for me.?
Makes complete sense, also why i couldnt find where the missing part(s) might go :)
screw and accompanying bits are indeed all missing.?
Thanks for taking the time, much appreciated,
kind regards,?
Judd.


Re: kick start return spring

 

Judd,
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Parts 290, 92081, 600 and possibly 9209 is what your kicker is missing.? It's a ball bearing that is held tight against the spindle the kicker rotates on.? When you turn the kicker into the bike the ball bearing gets pushed into a little hole and that holds the kicker in place.? The screw (290) probably came loose on yours so there is no pressure against the spindle.? Hope this is helpful to you.
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BC
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kick start return spring

 
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Hey everyone,?
so ive had my 99 for almost 10 years, and while everything works great, the kickstart mechanism seems to be missing the return spring. by that, i dont mean the internal return spring, i mean, the return spring which would snap the kickstart arm back into position tucked in close to the engine. if i lean the bike over to the right, the kickstart arm just flops out into the kicking position, and it otherwise while riding just stays more or less where its supposed to be by the grace of god.?
its always been this way, and ive had oodles of other bikes with kickstarts which? return the kicker to its little snug place tucked in by the engine where its supposed to live. its not a huge problem, but i cant even seem to find in the spare parts catalogue the bit im looking for. also, theres no obvious place where such a return spring would be mounted, its possible something was sheared off or i dont know.
can someone post a real good close up of what i am talking about? i cant find any detailed pics online.
thanks in advance!?
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Re: LH Exhaust pipe crack

 


Re: Speaking of forks...

 

My 2001 had only 8k miles. I used 10w fork oil , added 7-16th flat washers to each fork compressing stock springs about 3/4". Rides fine...I wieght 200 lbs.


On Wed, May 7, 2025, 10:04?PM Ding via <vocationalassessment=[email protected]> wrote:
Also "Death Wobble" is really tyre/pressure sensitive - I also added a fork Brace - spendy but worth every penny.

Before - OEM tyres needing pressure - I'm going to die!
After frork brace and valve spring - weird scrambler tyres - 160k (indicated) bloody great this!!
Also added fairing - unusual japanese (webike one made of canvas) - looks OK, increases top end super impressed for about $100
Ding

On Thu, 8 May 2025 at 13:43, drewwils via <drewwils=[email protected]> wrote:

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I have progressive springs :-/? My friends pushed down on my front end and it just went down with no work. Just bouncy. Also not able to ride over 65mph, otherwise death wobble comes on fast. The forks were rebuilt by a shop, progressive springs added.. and still no improvement.


Re: LH Exhaust pipe crack

 

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The side stand should not come into contact with the exhaust.? ?However the attached? hoop wire that provides a foot connection lever may well have been bent.?
Keith




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From: "vijahast via groups.io" <vijahast@...>
Date: 07/05/2025 23:17 (GMT+00:00)
Subject: Re: [W650Riders] LH Exhaust pipe crack

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Allan - yes it does swing up and meets the pipe. ?I wonder if it is bent somehow? ?


Re: Speaking of forks...

 

Also "Death Wobble" is really tyre/pressure sensitive - I also added a fork Brace - spendy but worth every penny.

Before - OEM tyres needing pressure - I'm going to die!
After frork brace and valve spring - weird scrambler tyres - 160k (indicated) bloody great this!!
Also added fairing - unusual japanese (webike one made of canvas) - looks OK, increases top end super impressed for about $100
Ding

On Thu, 8 May 2025 at 13:43, drewwils via <drewwils=[email protected]> wrote:

[Edited Message Follows]

I have progressive springs :-/? My friends pushed down on my front end and it just went down with no work. Just bouncy. Also not able to ride over 65mph, otherwise death wobble comes on fast. The forks were rebuilt by a shop, progressive springs added.. and still no improvement.


Re: Speaking of forks...

 

Did they forget to put the springs back in?? this sounds weird.


On Thu, 8 May 2025 at 13:43, drewwils via <drewwils=[email protected]> wrote:
I have progressive springs :-/? My friends pushed down on my front int and it just went down with no work. Just bouncy. Also not able to ride over 65mph, otherwise death wobble comes on fast. The forks were rebuilt by a shop, progressive springs added.. and still no improvement.


Re: Speaking of forks...

 

Video showing no resistance pushing down with 15w oil.?


Re: Speaking of forks...

 
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I have progressive springs :-/? My friends pushed down on my front end and it just went down with no work. Just bouncy. Also not able to ride over 65mph, otherwise death wobble comes on fast. The forks were rebuilt by a shop, progressive springs added.. and still no improvement.


Re: Speaking of forks...

 

I upped the oil as you have and applied an old trick of placing valve springs from a car on top of the existing fork spring - instant progressive springs for the princely sum of $0?
If you want to get fancy you can swap out springs from different cars high or lower engine performance to make it bespoke lol. Course they may be stuffed if you get them from a scrap yard but for this application its not a biggie - checking they are the same height with a steel rule on top and bina ny shorter?ones will do.



On Thu, 8 May 2025 at 12:54, drewwils via <drewwils=[email protected]> wrote:
Switched to heavier because there was almost no resistance compressing forks ahead of oil change. They just bounce. I swear my last W was much more firm. Trying anything I can


Re: Speaking of forks...

 

Switched to heavier because there was almost no resistance compressing forks ahead of oil change. They just bounce. I swear my last W was much more firm. Trying anything I can


Re: LH Exhaust pipe crack

 
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Allan - yes it does swing up and meets the pipe. ?I wonder if it is bent somehow? ?


Re: LH Exhaust pipe crack

 

Your sidestand?should?not be contacting the pipe.? If it is, that's a problem.


On Wed, May 7, 2025 at 3:20?PM vijahast via <vijahast=[email protected]> wrote:
Exactly where the side stand contacts the pipe¡­ seems like there should be a rubber bump-stop or something.? But my side stand has literally cracked the pipe over time. ?

miss this a known issue?? Or am I missing something?



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Allan Wyatt
Raconteur and All-Around Curmudgeon



LH Exhaust pipe crack

 

Exactly where the side stand contacts the pipe¡­ seems like there should be a rubber bump-stop or something. ?But my side stand has literally cracked the pipe over time. ?

miss this a known issue? ?Or am I missing something?


Re: Speaking of forks...

 

15w is kinda thick..


On Wed, May 7, 2025, 2:01?PM Dan Muir via <djmuir22152=[email protected]> wrote:
Is this with the springs not installed?? The OEM damper rod will slow movement, particularly rebound¡ªthat¡¯s what the damper rod is for. Now if you¡¯ve put the springs back in and there¡¯s no resistance to compression . . . . well, that would be a problem!?

Dan





Re: Speaking of forks...

 

Is this with the springs not installed? The OEM damper rod will slow movement, particularly rebound¡ªthat¡¯s what the damper rod is for. Now if you¡¯ve put the springs back in and there¡¯s no resistance to compression . . . . well, that would be a problem!

Dan


Speaking of forks...

 

Forks drained and filled with the right amount of fluid, but while expanding and contacting the fork to get the air bubbles out, I found there is almost no resistance when compressing the fork and there is plenty when expanding it. Is this normal?? 15w Motul fork oil and the forks were rebuilt only a couple of years ago.


Re: kickstart

 

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Thanks!?


On Feb 11, 2025, at 10:58, Allan Wyatt via groups.io <rmkawboy@...> wrote:

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Corn's for feeding to cows.? Barley's for drinking.? And I don't mean beer....??

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Allan Wyatt
Raconteur and All-Around Curmudgeon



Re: kickstart

 

Corn's for feeding to cows.? Barley's for drinking.? And I don't mean beer....??

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Allan Wyatt
Raconteur and All-Around Curmudgeon