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Re: Has this W650 been lowered?

 

Try Dunlop K70s for a classic look. Size would be 4:00-18 and 3:50-19 back and front. They wear well and handle the W650s performance well enough. Not bad on the green lanes either.
Don in Niagara


On Monday, March 27, 2023, ADHDOOM <adhdoom@...> wrote:
Can’t see the tank enough to tell. The wheels look to be standard, just wrapped in classic style tyres so would be 110x18” on the rear and 100,19” on the front

On 27/03/2023, at 3:33 PM, fardoost via <fardoost=[email protected]> wrote:

?Thanks. How about the wheels, are they original? The tank?


Re: Has this W650 been lowered?

 

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Can’t see the tank enough to tell. The wheels look to be standard, just wrapped in classic style tyres so would be 110x18” on the rear and 100,19” on the front

On 27/03/2023, at 3:33 PM, fardoost via groups.io <fardoost@...> wrote:

?Thanks. How about the wheels, are they original? The tank?


Re: Has this W650 been lowered?

 

Thanks. How about the wheels, are they original? The tank?


Re: Has this W650 been lowered?

 

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Looks likes you could get most of the parts from WeBike in Japan. I’ve ordered from them several times with nothing but praise for the quality of parts I’ve ordered.

Check it out:



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2000 W650
1981 CT110

On Mar 22, 2023, at 11:30 PM, ADHDOOM <adhdoom@...> wrote:

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Yes it’s definitely been lowered. Those shocks in the rear look super short. The exhaust is custom, the rear fender has been bobbed along with the front. The handle bars are also custom, look like mini apes. The seat is custom and so are all of the lights including the smaller bottom mount headlight.?

On 23/03/2023, at 5:08 PM, fardoost via groups.io <fardoost@...> wrote:

?Can anyone list the changes that have been done to this bike?

Has it been lowered? Are the wheels original? What tank is that? Tires? Exhaust?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSIcETNZvTw

--
John H. in Omaha
2000 W650
2006 Vino 125
1981 CT110 “The Goin’ Postie Bike!”


Re: Has this W650 been lowered?

 

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Yes it’s definitely been lowered. Those shocks in the rear look super short. The exhaust is custom, the rear fender has been bobbed along with the front. The handle bars are also custom, look like mini apes. The seat is custom and so are all of the lights including the smaller bottom mount headlight.?

On 23/03/2023, at 5:08 PM, fardoost via groups.io <fardoost@...> wrote:

?Can anyone list the changes that have been done to this bike?

Has it been lowered? Are the wheels original? What tank is that? Tires? Exhaust?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSIcETNZvTw


Has this W650 been lowered?

 

Can anyone list the changes that have been done to this bike?

Has it been lowered? Are the wheels original? What tank is that? Tires? Exhaust?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSIcETNZvTw


Re: MOTORCYCLE SAFETY VIDEOS

 

Good to see your still on the forum James! How's your stable? I still have more Bikes than I can ride with 2-Ws, 2- Virago's, an old trail 90, a 1200 Sportster, and my latest acquisition, a 2008 Harley Dyna! Are you still in Florida? I'll never leave Hawaii!
Alohapaul

On Tuesday, March 14, 2023 at 10:34:34 AM HST, James Franklin <jimw650@...> wrote:


I taught motorcycle safety for 24 years and during that time I participated in the filming of a few motorcycle safety videos and I worked with a lot of entertainers who were learning to ride, or increasing their skills also.

I was a "student" in the MSF video, HOW TO TEACH THE ERC, I can't find my VHS copy of that movie, but if someone could send me a digital copy, that would be greatly appreciated.? The MSF told me that they did not archive their videos back when that video was produced.

One of the classes I taught at the Hollywood Bowl was for 8 women who were going to be in a movie called "CHROME HEARTS".? When it was released, it was called CHOPPER CHICKS IN ZOMBIE TOWN, and it is available on YOU TUBE for free.

Los Angeles Channel 13 News recorded a course at the training site at Los Angeles AFB which I set up. I am acting as the assistant Instructor and Steve Bransky, who is featured in almost every video for the MSF RSS program, and who hired me to teach the civilian programs for him, is acting as the primary instructor.

The California Motorcyclist Safety Program had their own video to promote their new program, and I, Steve Bransky, and other instructors are featured in that video.? The training featured at the Northern California site are pictured with their trailer behind them, I was teaching the program at the Hollywood Bowl training site.? Note that when Doug Fitts, the program director, was telling you how great our instructors are, I was the first one they showed, and all of the Hollywood students, when asked, said that they rated the program as a 10. Steve came to the site for the video, but I was the primary instructor for the class at the Hollywood Bowl.

Jackie Zemen was one of my students at a class I taught at the Hollywood Bowl, and she is the co-host for a TV talk show featuring women motorcycle riders.

Note, for whatever reason, some of these videos are not loading on this email, but they are available on Alice Franklin's FB page, and in the Motorcycle Safety Album in her FB page. There are a lot of Alice Franklins on FB, but my Alice is sitting on my lap in her profile picture.

????

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James Franklin
904 762-8384 (cell)


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MOTORCYCLE SAFETY VIDEOS

 

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I taught motorcycle safety for 24 years and during that time I participated in the filming of a few motorcycle safety videos and I worked with a lot of entertainers who were learning to ride, or increasing their skills also.

I was a "student" in the MSF video, HOW TO TEACH THE ERC, I can't find my VHS copy of that movie, but if someone could send me a digital copy, that would be greatly appreciated.? The MSF told me that they did not archive their videos back when that video was produced.

One of the classes I taught at the Hollywood Bowl was for 8 women who were going to be in a movie called "CHROME HEARTS".? When it was released, it was called CHOPPER CHICKS IN ZOMBIE TOWN, and it is available on YOU TUBE for free.

Los Angeles Channel 13 News recorded a course at the training site at Los Angeles AFB which I set up. I am acting as the assistant Instructor and Steve Bransky, who is featured in almost every video for the MSF RSS program, and who hired me to teach the civilian programs for him, is acting as the primary instructor.

The California Motorcyclist Safety Program had their own video to promote their new program, and I, Steve Bransky, and other instructors are featured in that video.? The training featured at the Northern California site are pictured with their trailer behind them, I was teaching the program at the Hollywood Bowl training site.? Note that when Doug Fitts, the program director, was telling you how great our instructors are, I was the first one they showed, and all of the Hollywood students, when asked, said that they rated the program as a 10. Steve came to the site for the video, but I was the primary instructor for the class at the Hollywood Bowl.

Jackie Zemen was one of my students at a class I taught at the Hollywood Bowl, and she is the co-host for a TV talk show featuring women motorcycle riders.

Note, for whatever reason, some of these videos are not loading on this email, but they are available on Alice Franklin's FB page, and in the Motorcycle Safety Album in her FB page. There are a lot of Alice Franklins on FB, but my Alice is sitting on my lap in her profile picture.

????

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James Franklin
904 762-8384 (cell)


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CALIFORNIA FOCUS and 13 TV NEWS, JIM TEACHING MSF IN CALIFORNIA

 

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California FOCUS was made as an introduction to the California Motorcyclist Safety Program, and I was one of the featured instructors, filmed at the Hollywood Bowl, an MTC training site.

I still haven't been able to locate my copy of the MSF movie, HOW TO TEACH THE ERC, those who participated in that movie's production were given a VHS tape of that movie, I can't find mine, I would like to have a copy, I don't need the VHS tape, a digital copy would work for me.

I recently found the movie, CHOPPER CHICKS IN ZOMBIE TOWN, on YOU TUBE, the ladies in that film took the MSF course from me at the Hollywood Bowl training site. Catheryn Carlin and Jamie Rose, two of the stars in that movie were on my FB as friends (FB turned my page over to another Jim Franklin and I no longer have access to it, so I lost touch with those ladies).

James Franklin
Yulee, FL
904 762-8384 (cell)
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From: James Franklin <jimw650@...>
Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 1:53 AM
To: Steve <smorrisrn@...>; James Franklin <jimw650@...>
Subject: Re: 13 TV NEWS, JIM TEACHING MSF IN CALIFORNIA
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Were you able to see the attached video?? Some people were having trouble opening up the videos I got from Legacy Box.? They were down loaded from Beta tapes and I received a thumb drive and DVDs from Legacy Box.

Anyway, while I was teaching for Steve in California, I got to teach a lot of celebrities.? My Alice was editing one of the videos, which had 4 segments, the third one was the one with Channel 13, the 4th one is a talk show with Jackie Zieman, she was a hoot.? I also had Sinbad, David Hasselhoff, Kim Cattrell, and a bunch of others, like most of the ladies from CYCLE CHICKS IN ZOMBIE TOWN (the ladies took the class together, Jamie Rose and Catheryn Carlin were on my Face Book...maybe I should open that up again).

Paul Lamount and Sharon Ferrell are pictured here.

James Franklin
Jacksonville, Florida 32211
904 762-8384 (cell)
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From: Steve <smorrisrn@...>
Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2022 9:50 PM
To: jimw650@... <jimw650@...>
Subject: Re: 13 TV NEWS, JIM TEACHING MSF IN CALIFORNIA
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Thanks for your work!


Lighted bike.JPG

-----Original Message-----
From: James Franklin <jimw650@...>
To: James Franklin <jimw650@...>
Sent: Sun, Jan 16, 2022 6:13 pm
Subject: 13 TV NEWS, JIM TEACHING MSF IN CALIFORNIA

I became an MSF Instructor in 1985, shortly after I became an Instructor, the MSF RIDING AND STREET SKILLS (based on the findings of the infamous HURT REPORT) was introduced. My initial Chief Instructors were Ron Shepard and Morgan Keene.? My update to the RSS was with Ron Shepard and Beth Weaver.

The base commander for the Los Angeles AFS enrolled me in my Instructor Preparation Course at an Air Force base near Riverside CA, which worked out because I was living in Riverside at the time.

I began teaching for the AFB at Long Beach Naval Station because we did not have a training site on LAAFB. While I was teaching at Long Beach, the Chief Instructor, Steve Bransky, who ran a course at that base on the weekends, was on the base on a week day, preparing his training bikes for the week end, watched me teaching a course there, and during a break, offered me a job teaching for his program, the MOTORCYCLE TRAINING CENTER (MTC), the most prolific site in the USA at that time. I made the sacrifice and left my part time job as a club manager at the LAAFB NCO CLUB, to begin teaching for MTC.

I set up the LAAFB site in EL Segundo, after I had been teaching for almost a year, where the air base actually was.

The video attached was filmed at the LAAFB site, Steve Bransky was the primary Instructor, and I assisted him, so he did the class room and I rode most of the demos.? I am riding the demos on my Honda CB 650 SC.


James Franklin
Jacksonville, Florida 32211
904 762-8384 (cell)
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Current rides2006 Honda GL 1800 Gold Wing
2000 Kawasaki W650
1981 Honda CB 900 C Custom
1982 Honda CB 900 C Custom

CMSP Instructor of the Year, 1990.jpg
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Paul Lamont, Hollywood Bowl.jpg
Sharon Ferrell, Hollywood Bowl.jpg


Re: Replacement Petcock Screens

 

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I just tried the44322-31050?FILTER FUEL COC (Suzuki)?$6.30 and they fit perfectly! So that was a $13 expense vs $114 for new fuel tap.
:)?


On Dec 21, 2022, at 8:52 PM, ewurban@... wrote:

My 2000's petcock screen was torn.?? There was no way I could figure to replace just the screen.? Also my petcock wasn't shutting off the flow of fuel when there was no vacuum on it.? I replaced the whole petcock with Yamaha part #5LP245000100.? The Yamaha petcock is a basic on / off type (with no vacuum connection) but looks essentially the same as the original and fits the tank perfectly.? The reasoning was to simplify the system and when combined with the removal of the KCAS system I was able to get rid of all vacuum connections to the carbs. ? The Yamaha petcock was also a good bit less expensive than the original Kawi one. ?


Re: Replacement Petcock Screens

 

My 2000's petcock screen was torn.?? There was no way I could figure to replace just the screen.? Also my petcock wasn't shutting off the flow of fuel when there was no vacuum on it.? I replaced the whole petcock with Yamaha part #5LP245000100.? The Yamaha petcock is a basic on / off type (with no vacuum connection) but looks essentially the same as the original and fits the tank perfectly.? The reasoning was to simplify the system and when combined with the removal of the KCAS system I was able to get rid of all vacuum connections to the carbs. ? The Yamaha petcock was also a good bit less expensive than the original Kawi one. ?


Re: Replacement Petcock Screens

 

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Hi there,

Thanks for the heads up. I was hoping that wasn’t the case. I found some Suzuki ones that might fit so will see how that goes.

Best regards,

Paul


On Dec 18, 2022, at 4:36 AM, Matthew Szostak <gurdy4me@...> wrote:

The filters are indicated as “[A]” just to draw attention to their location - the service manual text accompanying that image says, "Visually inspect the filter [A]. ?If the filter has any breaks or is deteriorated, replace the?fuel tap.” ?So I don’t think they’re intended to be replaced… but that doesn’t mean, I suppose, that it can’t be done! ?Maybe someone here has done it, and will chime in. ?But I doubt you’ll find a “plug-and-play” replacement from Kawasaki…


On Dec 18, 2022, at 12:10 AM, Lochness <latimerpb@...> wrote:

Hi there,

Does anyone know where to find replacement screens for the petcock? They are showed as A in the service manual but the parts manual doesn’t seem to indicate a part #.

Thanks!

Best regards,

Paul




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Re: Replacement Petcock Screens

 

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The filters are indicated as “[A]” just to draw attention to their location - the service manual text accompanying that image says, "Visually inspect the filter [A]. ?If the filter has any breaks or is deteriorated, replace the?fuel tap.” ?So I don’t think they’re intended to be replaced… but that doesn’t mean, I suppose, that it can’t be done! ?Maybe someone here has done it, and will chime in. ?But I doubt you’ll find a “plug-and-play” replacement from Kawasaki…


On Dec 18, 2022, at 12:10 AM, Lochness <latimerpb@...> wrote:

Hi there,

Does anyone know where to find replacement screens for the petcock? They are showed as A in the service manual but the parts manual doesn’t seem to indicate a part #.

Thanks!

Best regards,

Paul




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Re: Replacement Petcock Screens

 

Hi there,

Does anyone know where to find replacement screens for the petcock? They are showed as A in the service manual but the parts manual doesn’t seem to indicate a part #.



Thanks!

Best regards,

Paul

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Replacement headlamp & bucket

 

Hi all!

I purchased the sealed beam Holly Retrobright but it doesn't fit our stock housing mounts. I would imagine there is some bracket adapter somewhere but I've not seen one.

Looking at replacement housings now and reckon one of these two might be good options.Any experience with these types?




Re: Fw: Check this out – Chopper Chicks In Zombie Town (1989)

 

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Great! I’ve been looking all over for this movie for years! Since you first told us about it back in the olden days on yahoo groups as a matter of fact.

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From: James Franklin

I had forwarded this before, but several friends told me that they did not receive it, so I am trying to share it again.

?

Note again, I taught the ladies how to ride motorcycles for the movie, back in 1989, I did not write the movie's script.

?

Beverly, please forward this to Missy, I cannot find her email address.

?

Chopper Chicks In Zombie Town (1989)

?

James Franklin

904 762-8384 (cell)
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Fw: Check this out – Chopper Chicks In Zombie Town (1989)

 

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I had forwarded this before, but several friends told me that they did not receive it, so I am trying to share it again.

Note again, I taught the ladies how to ride motorcycles for the movie, back in 1989, I did not write the movie's script.

Beverly, please forward this to Missy, I cannot find her email address.

Chopper Chicks In Zombie Town (1989)


James Franklin
904 762-8384 (cell)
?



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?





From: James Franklin
Sent: Saturday, October 22, 2022 2:37 PM
Subject: Check this out – Chopper Chicks In Zombie Town (1989)
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Chopper Chicks In Zombie Town (1989)

https://youtu.be/pMarSpO9WOo

These ladies took the MSF RSS motorcycle safety course from me at the Hollywood Bowl site.

James Franklin
904 762-8384 (cell)
?


Re: Throttle sensor

 

Thanks for the info on the velocity stacks!!

Be interested to know what jetting works for you.

I pulled the ignition out and am now left with a plastic disk. My key for now is my thumbnail. Lol

Just figuring if I want a separate toggle switch or a dial that connects to the original ignition "disk" either in the headlight? or moved to the side panel. Fancy the headlight with a dial if I can find something that will work.

And space for a little smiths replica speedo - dont think a tacho is needed.


On Tue, 29 Nov 2022 at 11:31, ADHDOOM <adhdoom@...> wrote:
For those that were interested below are the inserts I made to help with tuning the standard CV carbs to facilitate using pod filters and deleting the air box:

Started with a 120mm aluminium intercooler connecter pipe which had a 2” (50.8mm) diameter with the flares coming out to just under 54mm (or 2 and 1/8”)

image1.jpeg

I cut it in half and cut the ends off to the peak of the flares and gave the lips a good sanding.

image5.jpeg

They matched up to the carb mouths almost perfectly.?

image2.jpegimage3.jpegimage4.jpeg

Once inside the filters they reduce they sit two thirds of the way in so still allow for far more then standard airflow but hopefully should keep the flow steady so that the jet needle and slide aren’t jumping about. Just going to fit them now so will post an update of how it worked out later.?

On 8/11/2022, at 2:09 PM, Ding <vocationalassessment@...> wrote:

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Cheers for the advice, I have a copy of the manual and couldn't find the ignition barrel in there at all.

Problem I have is it spins in the barrel but does nothing. Meanwhile the Steering Lock remains on wherever the key is positioned. It?does click in when I turn it and then?it becomes much harder to move it again.

As soon as its "free" the cylinder rotates but does nothing?

Detached?from the sensors at the bottom maybe. Hard to diagnose without it being in the manual.

Thanks again Ding

On Tue, 8 Nov 2022 at 14:03, ADHDOOM <adhdoom@...> wrote:
Hi Ding,

I think I found the same thing when I originally looked at removing my key barrel as well now that I think about it. The screws at the bottom were some sort of security ones. I just uploaded a pdf copy of the service and repair manual to dropbox:


You might be able to find something in there helpful. I would try some wd40 or some silicon spray and also spray it down the key barrel as well. It's ammazing how easily a key turns when lubricated well. I thought my front door key was fornicated till I was advised to spray some silicon in to it.

Lemme know how you get on.

On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 12:31 PM Ding <vocationalassessment@...> wrote:
Thanks for replying, there is of course no info on how to remove the ignition barrel in the manual. - Stopping thieves I guess. Looks like the screws are one use snap off underneath the barrel too - may look to see if I can grease the pin in situ??

On Mon, 7 Nov 2022 at 22:37, ADHDOOM <adhdoom@...> wrote:
Hi Ding,

Off the top of my head I think the key pushes out a pin to lock the steering so the key might be moving back and forward but the pin is stuck and therefore not returning. You might find once you remove the barrel assembly it just needs a little jiggle and some lube… though personally I’ve been considering removing the barrel and hiding a kill switch too.?

I’m not a fan of the overly large dash and want to cut back to just a single small Speedo which I think would look nice nested where the key currently resides. Just grind the loop off of the top tree and you’ve got a nice little half round recess.?

Had the aluminium tube arrive today and should hopefully be taking it to my friends workshop tomorrow to cut it to size. Will post pics once I’m done.?




On 7/11/2022, at 9:27 PM, Ding <vocationalassessment@...> wrote:

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Would be very keen to hear how your Pod filters are going - cant help with the throttle sensor though I am afraid.

Had a weird?issue with the ignition barrel though. Key turns, but does nothing and the steering lock is now on permanently!. Thinking of removing the whole shebang and hiding a kill switch.

What do you reckon?

Cheers for your time.?

Ding.

On Sun, 6 Nov 2022 at 13:26, ADHDOOM <adhdoom@...> wrote:
Hi peeps,

Got a couple of quick questions/requests that I'm hoping someone on here has the technical knowledge/effort to spare to answer for me:

Firstly does the throttle sensor adjust the timing when the bike is in use or is it just there to facilitate the function of the kickstand safety feature? I know that when the kickstand is still down and you drive to rev it kills the power so obviously the throttle sensor is involved in this feature but does it actually do anything else? If the kickstand safety feature was removed along with any associated elements could the throttle sensor then also be removed? I've played round with bikes that have CDI ignition systems like this before and none of the earlier bikes I've messed with have had or needed a throttle sensor so I am curious to know if the kickstand safety kill is all that it is there for.

Secondly would someone be able to post me a pic of the underside of the carbs? I had my float bowls off and was about to start putting them back on and have found a fifth slightly longer screw that I am not sure actually came off of the carb or is simply one that was left on my bench when I started.

Also I am in the process of fitting pod filters to the standard CV carbs and am trying a custom trick of making some short aluminum tube inserts to sit inside the pod filter that reduce ever so slightly to create a restriction and therefore maintain the constant velocity required to keep these carbs working as they should. If anyone's interested I'll post up pics of my custom inserts and of the results of how it runs etc... and before anyone says why am I putting pod filters on and to just leave the standard air box it's because I am going to start modifying the frame so there is no room for the standard airbox.

Thanks in advance!


Re: Throttle sensor

 

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I had the same with my ignition barrel. The bolts are a special head and not supposed to be able to get them out. Mine started to back out. Look up under the barrel to see if they r backing out.?

Andy.?


On Nov 7, 2022, at 3:31 PM, Ding <vocationalassessment@...> wrote:

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Thanks for replying, there is of course no info on how to remove the ignition barrel in the manual. - Stopping thieves I guess. Looks like the screws are one use snap off underneath the barrel too - may look to see if I can grease the pin in situ??

On Mon, 7 Nov 2022 at 22:37, ADHDOOM <adhdoom@...> wrote:
Hi Ding,

Off the top of my head I think the key pushes out a pin to lock the steering so the key might be moving back and forward but the pin is stuck and therefore not returning. You might find once you remove the barrel assembly it just needs a little jiggle and some lube… though personally I’ve been considering removing the barrel and hiding a kill switch too.?

I’m not a fan of the overly large dash and want to cut back to just a single small Speedo which I think would look nice nested where the key currently resides. Just grind the loop off of the top tree and you’ve got a nice little half round recess.?

Had the aluminium tube arrive today and should hopefully be taking it to my friends workshop tomorrow to cut it to size. Will post pics once I’m done.?




On 7/11/2022, at 9:27 PM, Ding <vocationalassessment@...> wrote:

?
Would be very keen to hear how your Pod filters are going - cant help with the throttle sensor though I am afraid.

Had a weird?issue with the ignition barrel though. Key turns, but does nothing and the steering lock is now on permanently!. Thinking of removing the whole shebang and hiding a kill switch.

What do you reckon?

Cheers for your time.?

Ding.

On Sun, 6 Nov 2022 at 13:26, ADHDOOM <adhdoom@...> wrote:
Hi peeps,

Got a couple of quick questions/requests that I'm hoping someone on here has the technical knowledge/effort to spare to answer for me:

Firstly does the throttle sensor adjust the timing when the bike is in use or is it just there to facilitate the function of the kickstand safety feature? I know that when the kickstand is still down and you drive to rev it kills the power so obviously the throttle sensor is involved in this feature but does it actually do anything else? If the kickstand safety feature was removed along with any associated elements could the throttle sensor then also be removed? I've played round with bikes that have CDI ignition systems like this before and none of the earlier bikes I've messed with have had or needed a throttle sensor so I am curious to know if the kickstand safety kill is all that it is there for.

Secondly would someone be able to post me a pic of the underside of the carbs? I had my float bowls off and was about to start putting them back on and have found a fifth slightly longer screw that I am not sure actually came off of the carb or is simply one that was left on my bench when I started.

Also I am in the process of fitting pod filters to the standard CV carbs and am trying a custom trick of making some short aluminum tube inserts to sit inside the pod filter that reduce ever so slightly to create a restriction and therefore maintain the constant velocity required to keep these carbs working as they should. If anyone's interested I'll post up pics of my custom inserts and of the results of how it runs etc... and before anyone says why am I putting pod filters on and to just leave the standard air box it's because I am going to start modifying the frame so there is no room for the standard airbox.

Thanks in advance!


Re: Throttle sensor

 

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For those that were interested below are the inserts I made to help with tuning the standard CV carbs to facilitate using pod filters and deleting the air box:

Started with a 120mm aluminium intercooler connecter pipe which had a 2” (50.8mm) diameter with the flares coming out to just under 54mm (or 2 and 1/8”)

image1.jpeg

I cut it in half and cut the ends off to the peak of the flares and gave the lips a good sanding.

image5.jpeg

They matched up to the carb mouths almost perfectly.?

image2.jpegimage3.jpegimage4.jpeg

Once inside the filters they reduce they sit two thirds of the way in so still allow for far more then standard airflow but hopefully should keep the flow steady so that the jet needle and slide aren’t jumping about. Just going to fit them now so will post an update of how it worked out later.?

On 8/11/2022, at 2:09 PM, Ding <vocationalassessment@...> wrote:

?
Cheers for the advice, I have a copy of the manual and couldn't find the ignition barrel in there at all.

Problem I have is it spins in the barrel but does nothing. Meanwhile the Steering Lock remains on wherever the key is positioned. It?does click in when I turn it and then?it becomes much harder to move it again.

As soon as its "free" the cylinder rotates but does nothing?

Detached?from the sensors at the bottom maybe. Hard to diagnose without it being in the manual.

Thanks again Ding

On Tue, 8 Nov 2022 at 14:03, ADHDOOM <adhdoom@...> wrote:
Hi Ding,

I think I found the same thing when I originally looked at removing my key barrel as well now that I think about it. The screws at the bottom were some sort of security ones. I just uploaded a pdf copy of the service and repair manual to dropbox:


You might be able to find something in there helpful. I would try some wd40 or some silicon spray and also spray it down the key barrel as well. It's ammazing how easily a key turns when lubricated well. I thought my front door key was fornicated till I was advised to spray some silicon in to it.

Lemme know how you get on.

On Tue, Nov 8, 2022 at 12:31 PM Ding <vocationalassessment@...> wrote:
Thanks for replying, there is of course no info on how to remove the ignition barrel in the manual. - Stopping thieves I guess. Looks like the screws are one use snap off underneath the barrel too - may look to see if I can grease the pin in situ??

On Mon, 7 Nov 2022 at 22:37, ADHDOOM <adhdoom@...> wrote:
Hi Ding,

Off the top of my head I think the key pushes out a pin to lock the steering so the key might be moving back and forward but the pin is stuck and therefore not returning. You might find once you remove the barrel assembly it just needs a little jiggle and some lube… though personally I’ve been considering removing the barrel and hiding a kill switch too.?

I’m not a fan of the overly large dash and want to cut back to just a single small Speedo which I think would look nice nested where the key currently resides. Just grind the loop off of the top tree and you’ve got a nice little half round recess.?

Had the aluminium tube arrive today and should hopefully be taking it to my friends workshop tomorrow to cut it to size. Will post pics once I’m done.?




On 7/11/2022, at 9:27 PM, Ding <vocationalassessment@...> wrote:

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Would be very keen to hear how your Pod filters are going - cant help with the throttle sensor though I am afraid.

Had a weird?issue with the ignition barrel though. Key turns, but does nothing and the steering lock is now on permanently!. Thinking of removing the whole shebang and hiding a kill switch.

What do you reckon?

Cheers for your time.?

Ding.

On Sun, 6 Nov 2022 at 13:26, ADHDOOM <adhdoom@...> wrote:
Hi peeps,

Got a couple of quick questions/requests that I'm hoping someone on here has the technical knowledge/effort to spare to answer for me:

Firstly does the throttle sensor adjust the timing when the bike is in use or is it just there to facilitate the function of the kickstand safety feature? I know that when the kickstand is still down and you drive to rev it kills the power so obviously the throttle sensor is involved in this feature but does it actually do anything else? If the kickstand safety feature was removed along with any associated elements could the throttle sensor then also be removed? I've played round with bikes that have CDI ignition systems like this before and none of the earlier bikes I've messed with have had or needed a throttle sensor so I am curious to know if the kickstand safety kill is all that it is there for.

Secondly would someone be able to post me a pic of the underside of the carbs? I had my float bowls off and was about to start putting them back on and have found a fifth slightly longer screw that I am not sure actually came off of the carb or is simply one that was left on my bench when I started.

Also I am in the process of fitting pod filters to the standard CV carbs and am trying a custom trick of making some short aluminum tube inserts to sit inside the pod filter that reduce ever so slightly to create a restriction and therefore maintain the constant velocity required to keep these carbs working as they should. If anyone's interested I'll post up pics of my custom inserts and of the results of how it runs etc... and before anyone says why am I putting pod filters on and to just leave the standard air box it's because I am going to start modifying the frame so there is no room for the standard airbox.

Thanks in advance!