I don't know what your experience with Harleys is, but I have built many EVO Harleys to better than 90 horsepower and never had one fail yet.???The stock crank is good for a build to better than 120 hp. The V-max and Magnas are high rev motors with?scant similarity to stump-pulling big blocks.? More power?? Of course. But totally different character, more akin to small block Chevvies that make their power high up (like my 8000 rpm built 65 fuelie engine in my MGTF)?If you want to classify?any Japanese engines as having big block Chevy character, start with the myriad of big inch Japanese twins that are desparately trying to carve into Harley's cruiser market.
James Franklin wrote:
The list of bikes that will roll away from a Harley without downshifting or
over revving, is too long
to list here.
The Harley is closer compared to a John Deer than a big block Chevy..you
want the sound and feel of a Chevy V-8, you want a Yamaha V-Max, or a Honda
1100 Magna.
The Evos made about 60 HP, but their crank came from a 35 HP design..leave
the engine alone, put a tuned but less restrive pipe on it, it was just
find, but build it to make 80 - 90 HP, you have a grenade.
James Franklin
2411 Pine Summit DR. E
Jacksonville, Florida 32211
808-225-0994 (cell)
From: john gary simpson
Reply-To: W650riders@...
To: W650riders@...
Subject: Re: [W650riders] Re: Thinking about getting rid of my w650
Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 04:13:46 -0700 (PDT)
I'm speaking as a prior owner. In regard to smooth shifting, vibration and
top-heaviness, I agree. In terms of riding balance and handling, both my
883 and my1200 were good bikes. In
terms of performance, my 883 was a
slacker, but my 1200 would haul butt. In terms of reliability and ease of
maintenance, all of my Harleys were hands down the most reliable and easist
to work on. But it's the intangibles that make the Harley a Harley - the
feel of the engine at mid and low throttle, the styling, the personality. As
the old saying goes, if ya gotta ask... On performance, all stock harleys
are extremely restricted and can easiloy and cheaply make 25% to 50% more
power. A stock EVO big twin averages 46 hp out of the box, and easily make
80hp with nothing but simple intake and exhaust changes. Most Japanese
bikes will stomp a Harley in an all-out drag, but at everyday loafing
throttle, a harley's huge low-end torque keeps it ahead of the pack
effortlessly. Effort is the
key. Do you want to be revving your bike to the limit all of the time to
make it perform? The Harley is the big block Chevy of the motorcycle
world....shhesh; I'm about to talk myself into another harley....
"larry.botheras@..." wrote:
I'm afraid I am speaking from a position of knowledge... Second worst
bike I ever rode... the worst was an 883
----Original Message----
From: eustisgary@...
Date: 16/07/2007 1:41
To:
Subj: [W650riders] Re: Thinking about getting rid of my w650
Have you actually ridden a 1200 Sporty?--- In
W650riders@..., "Larry Botheras"
wrote:
>
> Think long and hard. unless it's tricked up the 1200 sporty will
feel
> slower than the W IMHO, it's not that much more powerful (HD never
quote)
> but it is a lot heavier
>
>
>
> From: W650riders@...
[mailto:W650riders@...] On
> Behalf Of John
> Sent: 11 July 2007 06:39
> To:
W650riders@...
> Subject: [W650riders] Thinking about getting rid of my w650
>
>
>
> I found a sportster 1200r that's tempting me to get rid of the w.
What
> are your thoughts on the 2006 sportster 1200 roadster?
>
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