Re: :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN
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In the UK XR's are street legal. Almost Enduro
bikes are. I used to ride a Yamaha IT465 on the road and more recently a
Husqvarna TE350. The XR 250 is a lighter, quicker and better made bike than
any dual-sport compromise and once tyres are changed, makes a brilliant little
road bike.
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You'd struggle to get a better urban tool than
an XR with road tyres on.
That's why I don't live in the UK, no NX's. I'd
forgotten the reason. SORRY Laura I was certain that you wanted to street ride
too. We don't have a KING JON in the colonies to save us from outsiders
opinions,knowledge and riding experience. I beg your forgiveness OH god of all
things bike, but we're not coming back to the motherland. Get an NX you'll
love it. He can't kill all of us.
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Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 3:10
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Subject: Re: [W650riders] :WAS goodwood
breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN
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Hmm...Those weren't based on the XR
though...they're water-cooled for starters...Not available in the UK
and not many grey imports brought in because they weren't as good as an XR
at fast stuff and weren't as good as a Serow at nadgery trails . Quite
heavy too...
Laura: The best of all those 250's was the
Honda NX 250 from '88,'89 and very cool with it's mini fairing. Here's a
pic of my NX 650, they looked alike.?Used they're reasonably priced.
Daniel
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2007 12:22
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Subject: Re: [W650riders] :WAS
goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES AGAIN
Hm if I would be interested in such a yamaha xt225 (or 250) what
would be I be looking at moneywise? I understand it would be good for
town/commuting. I do fancy one of those, riding position seems
comfortable. But you know I go through phases so please don't take it
that I will go and buy one tomorrow, I'm likely to change my mind again
as women do!! Haven't even sat one. Are they easy to get hold of?
Laura
On 01/07/07, James Franklin <jimw650@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Laura, Honda CRs are
two strokes and they are high performance racable..the
XRs and the
XLs are 4 strokes.
The Suzuki DR 200, the Yamaha XT 225
(Serrow), and the Kawasaki Sherpa 250
are all electric start 4
strokes with seat heights at 30 inches or less
unladen.
James Franklin
2411 Pine Summit DR.
E
Jacksonville, Florida 32211
808-225-0994
(cell)
>From: Laura <laurauk.rider@googlemail.com
>
>Reply-To: W650riders@yahoogroups.com
>To:
W650riders@yahoogroups.com
>Subject:
Re: [W650riders] :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES
>AGAIN
>Date: Sat, 30 Jun 2007 23:15:59
+0100
>
>OK. So that's a 2-stroke noisy bike then. Quite
like the idea. Are they
>cheap could I have them as second
bike?
>KTMs look cool, definitely too high. A friend just had to
have his food
>reshaped as he came off doing a wheelie at 70
(we think).
>Laura
>
>
>On 30/06/07, Jonhaddock@onetel.net
<
jonhaddock@onetel.net>
wrote:
>>
>>??Yes, they ARE high, some
higher than others, but the Honda XR 250's are
>>OK. I find I
can manage those??well with my 27" inside leg, but I can't
>>ride
>>the KTM's for
instance.
>>
>>----- Original Message
-----
>>*From:* Laura <laurauk.rider@googlemail.com>
>>*To:*
W650riders@yahoogroups.com
>>*Sent:*
Saturday, June 30, 2007 10:03 PM
>>*Subject:* Re:
[W650riders] :WAS goodwood breakfast club NOW MBS STRIKES
>>AGAIN
>>
>>I've sort of been interested
in them as they look comfy (riding position),
>>well the ones
I saw but don't know what they were. But they are
mostly
>>high
>>aren't they. Thanks for that long
explanation really
helpful.
>>
>>Laura
>>
>>
>>On
30/06/07, Jonhaddock@onetel.net
< jonhaddock@onetel.net
>>net+>>
wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > That is
modern trials...The bikes are 250cc or 300cc two stroke
>>singles,
>> >
>> > tuned for
instant wheelies with loads of bottom end grunt. They
are
>>very
>> > low
>> > geared and
have absolutely NO seat...just a painted black area
>> >
approximately
>> > where the seat would have
been.
>> >
>> > Other off-road sports
are:
>> >
>> > Motocross where the bikes are
tuned for power and like trials, have no
>> > lights and
are not road legal. MX bikes actually handle really well
but
>> > are
>> > stupidly tall to give them
masses of suspension travel...expect seat
>> > heights
>> > in excess of 960mm. Proper Supermotos are basically
Motocross bikes
>>with
>> > road front wheels
on.
>> >
>> > Enduro...Where the bikes are
very similar to motocross but are more
>> >
softly
>> > tuned with gear ratios more suitable to road
use, and have lighting
>> > sets.
>> > These
bikes are usually road legal in the UK and make
literally
>>stunning
>> > commuters. In all
seriousness, you would have to try very hard
indeed
>>to
>> > find a better bike than a late
model Honda XR250 for general urban
>> >
duties.
>> > They weigh...brace yourself...230
lbs....under half your Harley...and
>>30
>> >
bhp
>> > in a bike that light makes for serious
performance. My old Yamaha 465
>> > with
>> >
42 bhp would shut down any musclebike under the sun up to 60 mph. A
lot
>> > of
>> > Enduro bikes were bought as
'greenlaners'. Green lanes are Roads...i.e.
>> >
'Rights of way open to all traffic' which were not tarmac. In
other
>> > words,
>> > forgotten about or not
used. Because they were roads, bikes still
had
>>to
>> > be
>> > fully road
legal and obey national speed limits. They are often just
>>
> muddy
>> > tracks across moors and rivers and to be
honest, full-on Enduro bikes
>> > are
>> > not
designed for such tricky and challenging narrow paths....But
being
>> > macho
>> > men we used 'em
anyway!
>> >
>> > Trail. These bikes are less
extreme and less robust. They have less
>> > suspension
travel, less power and are often more civilised. You used to
>> > find
>> > some in every makers range but
today in the UK, only grey imports are
>> >
found.
>> > They were popular amongst older trail riders (
the ones who knew what
>> > they
>> > were
doing). James has mentioned the Yam Serow, the Kawasaki Sherpa
and
>> > so
>> > on, but older bikes like the
XT250 were very good and frankly, the
>>XR250
>>
>
>> > Honda is so good and usable it'll cross into
both camps.
>> >
>> > All off-road bikes are
brilliant fun, combining punchy motors with
>> >
incredibly light weight. Both motocross and Enduro bikes have to have
>> > superb
>> > handling stability because
they are built to win races on bumpy rough
>> >
ground
>> > and as a consequence, round town or the lanes,
a motocross or enduro
>> > bike
>> > with
road oriented tyres on usually blows 'proper' road bikes into
the
>> > weeds.
>> >
>> > They are
incredibly comfy too...really soft seats and amazingly good
>> > suspension make for a real armchair riding
position.
>> >
>> > Very high credibility
too......
>> >
>> > Jon
>>
>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
> > From: Laura
>> > >>Trials? Is that
motocross? exciting. I like the idea of riding
>> >
>>in the woods, think it's called greenlaning. Liked riding on
>> > >>the grass at the rally next
weekend.
>> > >
>> > > Laura, here's
some trials riding:
>> > >
>> > >
>>
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