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Re: VE EXAM Testing on line... Yea or Nay
I agree with the Nay!
I am new to the club but not to ham radio. I was first licensed as WA6VPX IN 1976. I have operated from VQ9, KG4, VP9 and got my Extra the hard way in about ‘84. It is not nearly as difficult as it once was considering the test questions and answers are published and CW is gone.
Let’s not give is all away by allowing/condoning cheating by doing testing on line as a matter of course!
Ken Geistfeld // WV3R
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On Apr 4, 2020, at 10:38 AM, Patricia Hawkins <prayerpartnerpat@...> wrote:
?Sadly I see this as a way to devalue the amateur radio license, as it makes it possible to cheat. Anyone can open two browser windows or use two devices in order to obtain answers to questions. While online, if accessible, may be nice for us disabled folks, such testing comes with lots of issues such as:
1. Accessibility, will all potential test takers be able to use the site?
2. What about preventing folks from cheating?
3. And will this replace the VE and thus render them unnecessary?
Thus no I am not in favor of online testing.
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Re: VE EXAM Testing on line... Yea or Nay
Sadly I see this as a way to devalue the amateur radio license, as it makes it possible to cheat. Anyone can open two browser windows or use two devices in order to obtain answers to questions. While online, if accessible, may be nice for us disabled folks, such testing comes with lots of issues such as:
1. Accessibility, will all potential test takers be able to use the site?
2. What about preventing folks from cheating?
3. And will this replace the VE and thus render them unnecessary?
Thus no I am not in favor of online testing.
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Re: KD0WPG is there anyone who can help me get on repeaters
Have been thinking about your issues Mike and decided to post my thoughts and offer to help. I do not use Chirp to program mine. I do them manually and they work well.
First, since you have been changing settings and stuff I would suggest a factory reset. That way you clear away any issues created by previous actions.
Then I would program them manually. Not real hard actually and I am quite willing to talk you through the process. We can meet up on 146.520 and go through the process if you like. I work 2nd shift, so a Saturday or Sunday afternoon time would be best for me. We can get you up and running on the repeaters.?
And if you are just too frustrated to mess with it anymore I can simply do it for you. You can bring me the radios and I will program according to your wishes.?
Happy Hamming
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On Apr 3, 2020, at 7:36 AM, Mike <aerospaced@...> wrote:
? I'm not ignoring you, stuff came up.? On Sun, Mar 29, 2020, 9:23 AM Larry Macionski W8LM via Groups.Io <larmac17= [email protected]> wrote: Well - the repeater currently does have a dual courtesy tone. There was a net last night and Patrica did have someone with no audio trying to get in. I don't know if that was you.
You claim they work simplex just fine??
Have you digested this? This is the "authority" Read all about it...
Specifically look for a "Factory reset procedure" .. Give that a try then retry just 1-2 channels..
Contact me "off groups.io... maybe we can get together this up coming week if you don't have the "2020 cooties"
contact me at..
Larry W8LM
"You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: You send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. " - Albert Einstein, explaining radio
On Saturday, March 28, 2020, 7:52:40 PM CDT, Mike < aerospaced@...> wrote:
I Live at 47th south and seneca st.? ?I loaded and the same key up repeater, but no voice. Then I realized I had sent you a file with w0uus set to tsql, so I changed?w0uus to tone..? It made no difference? ? I have not tried w0vfw since there is something going on at the moment.? I am so frustrated? On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 7:10 PM Mike via Groups.Io <aerospaced= [email protected]> wrote: I will load that and try after the repeater is quiet
On Sat, Mar 28, 2020, 3:22 PM Larry Macionski W8LM via Groups.Io <larmac17= [email protected]> wrote: Try the file attached. You had channels set to 20KC, they shoul dbe 5Kc.. see it that works..
Larry W8LM
"You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: You send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. " - Albert Einstein, explaining radio
On Saturday, March 28, 2020, 3:00:49 PM CDT, Larry Macionski W8LM via Groups.Io <larmac17= [email protected]> wrote:
Mike I am confused.. The only beep W?VFW does? is a courtesy beep at the end of a transmission that is a delay between dropping of the carrier and 1 to 1.5 seconds then Beep then about 2 seconds later the repeater carrier drops. It is generated by the repeater. ?It's purpose is to have all operators standby till the beep to allow others to enter the conversation, hence a courtesy beep. Also if someone starts talking before th ecourtesy beep, the repeater timer will continue to run, and time out that person instead of resetting the 3 minute talk timer.
A "roger beep" (a carryover from CB not ham radio) is generated by the user's radio. It is to indicate the person talking has ended his transmission. CB does not have any timers.
The W?VFW repeater transmits a DPL tone of 071 but receives a PL tone of 103.5... The reason for that is if they were both the same a spurious transmitter could trip the receiver. That is not our case. The second reason is I hear 2-3 repeaters on our frequency, Topeka, Ponca City and Oklahoma City. Probably because of antenna height and troposphere conditions.
Currently W?VFW is connected to Blind Hams Talk Group. there is light activity, but tonight there will be a net at 8PM tonight..
Larry W8LM
"You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: You send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. " - Albert Einstein, explaining radio
On Saturday, March 28, 2020, 10:28:59 AM CDT, Mike < aerospaced@...> wrote:
I've posted twice, once with the chirp file, but it never came?through.? So I reposted with a text paste.? Yes I can get the roger beep from both w0uus and w0vfw, just no audio.? If you do get the file, I posted, from 21 on, was a cut and past from the chirps repeater directory.
Mike KD0WPG On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 9:01 AM Larry Macionski W8LM via Groups.Io <larmac17= [email protected]> wrote: Do you get the Squelch tail of the repeater? When you transmit. W?UUS is about 95th Street and K-15. W?VFW is at Anna and W. Douglas in Are you within 5 miles of one or the other? Those frequency counters I showed you have a trimmer on the rear that you need to zero beat to WWV.
Can you send me a copy of your chirp programming file..
Larry W8LM
"You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: You send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. " - Albert Einstein, explaining radio
On Friday, March 27, 2020, 9:14:02 AM CDT, Mike < aerospaced@...> wrote:
I have fought for a year trying to get me baofeng (uv82, uv82hp, uv5r) radios to connect to w0vfw, and wouus. I've tried chirp, I've tried manual programming.? Right now with chirp, I can key up the transmitter. I get the Rodger beep after I release the transmit button.? All 5 radios will talk to each other on simplex.? So they can transmit.? I bought a little frequency counter that Larry showed me, non of the radios are right on frequency but within 100khz.the frequency seems to be close enough that it keys up the repeater, just no voice. I tried to include the chirp file, but it never posted.?
-- Michael Holmes, ? "When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return." ?? - Leonardo da Vinci
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Re: KD0WPG is there anyone who can help me get on repeaters
I'm not ignoring you, stuff came up.?
On Sun, Mar 29, 2020, 9:23 AM Larry Macionski W8LM via Groups.Io <larmac17= [email protected]> wrote: Well - the repeater currently does have a dual courtesy tone. There was a net last night and Patrica did have someone with no audio trying to get in. I don't know if that was you.
You claim they work simplex just fine??
Have you digested this? This is the "authority" Read all about it...
Specifically look for a "Factory reset procedure" .. Give that a try then retry just 1-2 channels..
Contact me "off groups.io... maybe we can get together this up coming week if you don't have the "2020 cooties"
contact me at..
Larry W8LM
"You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: You send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. " - Albert Einstein, explaining radio
On Saturday, March 28, 2020, 7:52:40 PM CDT, Mike < aerospaced@...> wrote:
I Live at 47th south and seneca st.? ?I loaded and the same key up repeater, but no voice. Then I realized I had sent you a file with w0uus set to tsql, so I changed?w0uus to tone..? It made no difference? ? I have not tried w0vfw since there is something going on at the moment.? I am so frustrated? On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 7:10 PM Mike via Groups.Io <aerospaced= [email protected]> wrote: I will load that and try after the repeater is quiet
On Sat, Mar 28, 2020, 3:22 PM Larry Macionski W8LM via Groups.Io <larmac17= [email protected]> wrote: Try the file attached. You had channels set to 20KC, they shoul dbe 5Kc.. see it that works..
Larry W8LM
"You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: You send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. " - Albert Einstein, explaining radio
On Saturday, March 28, 2020, 3:00:49 PM CDT, Larry Macionski W8LM via Groups.Io <larmac17= [email protected]> wrote:
Mike I am confused.. The only beep W?VFW does? is a courtesy beep at the end of a transmission that is a delay between dropping of the carrier and 1 to 1.5 seconds then Beep then about 2 seconds later the repeater carrier drops. It is generated by the repeater. ?It's purpose is to have all operators standby till the beep to allow others to enter the conversation, hence a courtesy beep. Also if someone starts talking before th ecourtesy beep, the repeater timer will continue to run, and time out that person instead of resetting the 3 minute talk timer.
A "roger beep" (a carryover from CB not ham radio) is generated by the user's radio. It is to indicate the person talking has ended his transmission. CB does not have any timers.
The W?VFW repeater transmits a DPL tone of 071 but receives a PL tone of 103.5... The reason for that is if they were both the same a spurious transmitter could trip the receiver. That is not our case. The second reason is I hear 2-3 repeaters on our frequency, Topeka, Ponca City and Oklahoma City. Probably because of antenna height and troposphere conditions.
Currently W?VFW is connected to Blind Hams Talk Group. there is light activity, but tonight there will be a net at 8PM tonight..
Larry W8LM
"You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: You send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. " - Albert Einstein, explaining radio
On Saturday, March 28, 2020, 10:28:59 AM CDT, Mike < aerospaced@...> wrote:
I've posted twice, once with the chirp file, but it never came?through.? So I reposted with a text paste.? Yes I can get the roger beep from both w0uus and w0vfw, just no audio.? If you do get the file, I posted, from 21 on, was a cut and past from the chirps repeater directory.
Mike KD0WPG On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 9:01 AM Larry Macionski W8LM via Groups.Io <larmac17= [email protected]> wrote: Do you get the Squelch tail of the repeater? When you transmit. W?UUS is about 95th Street and K-15. W?VFW is at Anna and W. Douglas in Are you within 5 miles of one or the other? Those frequency counters I showed you have a trimmer on the rear that you need to zero beat to WWV.
Can you send me a copy of your chirp programming file..
Larry W8LM
"You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: You send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. " - Albert Einstein, explaining radio
On Friday, March 27, 2020, 9:14:02 AM CDT, Mike < aerospaced@...> wrote:
I have fought for a year trying to get me baofeng (uv82, uv82hp, uv5r) radios to connect to w0vfw, and wouus. I've tried chirp, I've tried manual programming.? Right now with chirp, I can key up the transmitter. I get the Rodger beep after I release the transmit button.? All 5 radios will talk to each other on simplex.? So they can transmit.? I bought a little frequency counter that Larry showed me, non of the radios are right on frequency but within 100khz.the frequency seems to be close enough that it keys up the repeater, just no voice. I tried to include the chirp file, but it never posted.?
-- Michael Holmes, ? "When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return." ?? - Leonardo da Vinci
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???????? o/ | \o
-- Michael Holmes, ? "When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return." ?? - Leonardo da Vinci
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Re: Repeater maintenance status & plant for RadioShack/Sean Hadipour
Hi Larry... Sorry to read about your dental problems. I CAN imagine the discomfort your experiencing. I think it's a good idea is to bench the repeater at your place where you can work on it when your feeling better. Stay safe!!!
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Re: Repeater maintenance status & plant for RadioShack/Sean Hadipour
To further the rumors, I saw the dentist Monday morning my upper left jaw was bothering me for a week, I had 2 crowns and root canals done a year ago there. They took X-rays to see if the teeth had cracked and gave me antibiotics as I had the gum tooth area cleaned and medicated there in case of infection. This morning I saw my Family doctor. Sinus infection, was given the good meds, and told if it got worse, come back and he would drain the sinus.. I took a nap and my left eye almost closed shut. 1/2 my face is swollen. I went back and he drained it.. That was an hour ago.. I feel 50% better.. On the "good" drugs.. Need to keep in the recliner all tonight. keep hot packs.. I have not seen a doctor in 2 years and now 3 visits in 2 days.
I have all the parts to fix the repeater. I need to pull it, make mods on the controller card, install a new cable between the DMK audio dongle and repeater.? The best way to do it is to remove the repeater, modify it on my work bench and then return it. I do NOT want to impact any of the nets, especially during this time of heightened stress.?
I am monitoring the 145.27 repeater... The Australian girl we have Identifying is named "Shelia". We also "installed" OPEN SKY last week. If there is a SKYWARN alert you will hear it on the squelch tail.. It comes from NWS.. So listen next warning to see if the addition was a success...
There is an option to have the "Ham Radio Newsline" or the "ARRL letter" played on the repeater, either automatically at a certain time or by command- Touchtones. ? Any comments???
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Repeater maintenance status & plant for RadioShack/Sean Hadipour
Greeting to all -
The repeater maintenance that was planned for this week has been? postponed.? Larry Macionski is having dental work performed this week.? He hopes to be able to work on the repeater early next week.
The club purchased a plant and sympathy card for Sean Hadipour.? The plant and card were delivered to the Radio Shack this morning. The Radio Shack is closed.? The way I understand it, Mark is usually at the store in the morning to do paperwork and Sean comes to the store in the afternoon. Mark answered the phone this morning and waited until I arrived with the plant and card. I doubt if either have set hours for when their at the store.
Sean's family had a graveside service for his father in the Kansas City area.
Mark said Sean is back in Derby and plans to be at the store this afternoon.?
Take care everybody and be safe. 73, Patrick Schneweis/KC0ZRY President, W0VFW Post 3115 Amateur Radio Club
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Re: VE EXAM Testing on line... Yea or Nay
Interesting idea, but I wonder how they
will keep people from cheating.
Vic
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Macionski W8LM via Groups.Io wrote:
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1st All on line ham radio Exam... KJ7NNU issued.
More info...
What do you think? This means someday you will be able to take
your license anytime anywhere.. The FCC has stated they are
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Re: VE EXAM Testing on line... Yea or Nay
That a good idea especially in this time of the covid virus. However, this removes the one on one that clubs offer to personally meet the individual and the chance to help him or her extra help in teaching the ideals of ham radio. It negates the camaraderie of helping others a club offers.
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Re: VE EXAM Testing on line... Yea or Nay
Yes I agree, especially sobe there are no foreseeable test in the next few months and I'm cramming nightly for my general
Michael Holmes? KD0WPG?
On Tue, Mar 31, 2020, 9:23 PM Lawrence Macionski W8LM via Groups.Io <am_fm_radio= [email protected]> wrote: 1st All on line ham radio Exam... KJ7NNU issued.
More info...
What do you think? This means someday you will be able to take your license anytime anywhere.. The FCC has stated they are onboard.
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VE EXAM Testing on line... Yea or Nay
1st All on line ham radio Exam... KJ7NNU issued.
More info...
What do you think? This means someday you will be able to take your license anytime anywhere.. The FCC has stated they are onboard.
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club meetings using conference call
Greetings to All -? The following?information is in reference to possibly having club meetings by way of conference calls.
I signed up for the highly rated freeconferencecall
I found it to be very easy to use.
I couldn’t start a session. “All lines have reached their
maximum limit”. This response was received for 4 hours.? I didn't find this surprising since its free.
?
I did sign up for a 14-day free trial period on gotomeeting
and tested it – I found I could immediately schedule and start a conference
call. I did this while the freeconferencecall was not available.
?
Zoom might be another a viable option.?Vic B indicated Zoom is very
easy to use from the perspective of the organizer and the participant.
Reviews indicate Zoom has a 40 minute limit.? To avoid the time limit it costs $14 a month.
I will test Zoom this week and get a group email out to let
you know which one we will be using and also when we will try to hold a club
meeting using group conference call.
I'll personally pay 2-3? monthly conference call fees for the club.?
Hope all of you are doing well under the circumstances. Be careful and stay safe. 73,
Patrick Schneweis President, W0VFW Post 3115 Amateur Radio Club
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Re: KD0WPG is there anyone who can help me get on repeaters
Well - the repeater currently does have a dual courtesy tone. There was a net last night and Patrica did have someone with no audio trying to get in. I don't know if that was you.
You claim they work simplex just fine??
Have you digested this? This is the "authority" Read all about it...
Specifically look for a "Factory reset procedure" .. Give that a try then retry just 1-2 channels..
Contact me "off groups.io... maybe we can get together this up coming week if you don't have the "2020 cooties"
contact me at..
am_fm_radio@...
Larry W8LM
"You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: You send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. " - Albert Einstein, explaining radio
On Saturday, March 28, 2020, 7:52:40 PM CDT, Mike <aerospaced@...> wrote:
I Live at 47th south and seneca st.? ?I loaded and the same key up repeater, but no voice. Then I realized I had sent you a file with w0uus set to tsql, so I changed?w0uus to tone..? It made no difference? ? I have not tried w0vfw since there is something going on at the moment.? I am so frustrated?
On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 7:10 PM Mike via Groups.Io <aerospaced= [email protected]> wrote: I will load that and try after the repeater is quiet
On Sat, Mar 28, 2020, 3:22 PM Larry Macionski W8LM via Groups.Io <larmac17= [email protected]> wrote: Try the file attached. You had channels set to 20KC, they shoul dbe 5Kc.. see it that works..
Larry W8LM
"You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: You send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. " - Albert Einstein, explaining radio
On Saturday, March 28, 2020, 3:00:49 PM CDT, Larry Macionski W8LM via Groups.Io <larmac17= [email protected]> wrote:
Mike I am confused.. The only beep W?VFW does? is a courtesy beep at the end of a transmission that is a delay between dropping of the carrier and 1 to 1.5 seconds then Beep then about 2 seconds later the repeater carrier drops. It is generated by the repeater. ?It's purpose is to have all operators standby till the beep to allow others to enter the conversation, hence a courtesy beep. Also if someone starts talking before th ecourtesy beep, the repeater timer will continue to run, and time out that person instead of resetting the 3 minute talk timer.
A "roger beep" (a carryover from CB not ham radio) is generated by the user's radio. It is to indicate the person talking has ended his transmission. CB does not have any timers.
The W?VFW repeater transmits a DPL tone of 071 but receives a PL tone of 103.5... The reason for that is if they were both the same a spurious transmitter could trip the receiver. That is not our case. The second reason is I hear 2-3 repeaters on our frequency, Topeka, Ponca City and Oklahoma City. Probably because of antenna height and troposphere conditions.
Currently W?VFW is connected to Blind Hams Talk Group. there is light activity, but tonight there will be a net at 8PM tonight..
Larry W8LM
"You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: You send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. " - Albert Einstein, explaining radio
On Saturday, March 28, 2020, 10:28:59 AM CDT, Mike < aerospaced@...> wrote:
I've posted twice, once with the chirp file, but it never came?through.? So I reposted with a text paste.? Yes I can get the roger beep from both w0uus and w0vfw, just no audio.? If you do get the file, I posted, from 21 on, was a cut and past from the chirps repeater directory.
Mike KD0WPG On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 9:01 AM Larry Macionski W8LM via Groups.Io <larmac17= [email protected]> wrote: Do you get the Squelch tail of the repeater? When you transmit. W?UUS is about 95th Street and K-15. W?VFW is at Anna and W. Douglas in Are you within 5 miles of one or the other? Those frequency counters I showed you have a trimmer on the rear that you need to zero beat to WWV.
Can you send me a copy of your chirp programming file..
Larry W8LM
"You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: You send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. " - Albert Einstein, explaining radio
On Friday, March 27, 2020, 9:14:02 AM CDT, Mike < aerospaced@...> wrote:
I have fought for a year trying to get me baofeng (uv82, uv82hp, uv5r) radios to connect to w0vfw, and wouus. I've tried chirp, I've tried manual programming.? Right now with chirp, I can key up the transmitter. I get the Rodger beep after I release the transmit button.? All 5 radios will talk to each other on simplex.? So they can transmit.? I bought a little frequency counter that Larry showed me, non of the radios are right on frequency but within 100khz.the frequency seems to be close enough that it keys up the repeater, just no voice. I tried to include the chirp file, but it never posted.?
-- Michael Holmes, ? "When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return." ?? - Leonardo da Vinci
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???????? o/ | \o
-- Michael Holmes, ? "When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return." ?? - Leonardo da Vinci
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Re: KD0WPG is there anyone who can help me get on repeaters
I Live at 47th south and seneca st.? ?I loaded and the same key up repeater, but no voice. Then I realized I had sent you a file with w0uus set to tsql, so I changed?w0uus to tone..? It made no difference? ? I have not tried w0vfw since there is something going on at the moment.? I am so frustrated?
On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 7:10 PM Mike via Groups.Io <aerospaced= [email protected]> wrote: I will load that and try after the repeater is quiet
On Sat, Mar 28, 2020, 3:22 PM Larry Macionski W8LM via Groups.Io <larmac17= [email protected]> wrote: Try the file attached. You had channels set to 20KC, they shoul dbe 5Kc.. see it that works..
Larry W8LM
"You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: You send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. " - Albert Einstein, explaining radio
On Saturday, March 28, 2020, 3:00:49 PM CDT, Larry Macionski W8LM via Groups.Io <larmac17= [email protected]> wrote:
Mike I am confused.. The only beep W?VFW does? is a courtesy beep at the end of a transmission that is a delay between dropping of the carrier and 1 to 1.5 seconds then Beep then about 2 seconds later the repeater carrier drops. It is generated by the repeater. ?It's purpose is to have all operators standby till the beep to allow others to enter the conversation, hence a courtesy beep. Also if someone starts talking before th ecourtesy beep, the repeater timer will continue to run, and time out that person instead of resetting the 3 minute talk timer.
A "roger beep" (a carryover from CB not ham radio) is generated by the user's radio. It is to indicate the person talking has ended his transmission. CB does not have any timers.
The W?VFW repeater transmits a DPL tone of 071 but receives a PL tone of 103.5... The reason for that is if they were both the same a spurious transmitter could trip the receiver. That is not our case. The second reason is I hear 2-3 repeaters on our frequency, Topeka, Ponca City and Oklahoma City. Probably because of antenna height and troposphere conditions.
Currently W?VFW is connected to Blind Hams Talk Group. there is light activity, but tonight there will be a net at 8PM tonight..
Larry W8LM
"You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: You send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. " - Albert Einstein, explaining radio
On Saturday, March 28, 2020, 10:28:59 AM CDT, Mike < aerospaced@...> wrote:
I've posted twice, once with the chirp file, but it never came?through.? So I reposted with a text paste.? Yes I can get the roger beep from both w0uus and w0vfw, just no audio.? If you do get the file, I posted, from 21 on, was a cut and past from the chirps repeater directory.
Mike KD0WPG On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 9:01 AM Larry Macionski W8LM via Groups.Io <larmac17= [email protected]> wrote: Do you get the Squelch tail of the repeater? When you transmit. W?UUS is about 95th Street and K-15. W?VFW is at Anna and W. Douglas in Are you within 5 miles of one or the other? Those frequency counters I showed you have a trimmer on the rear that you need to zero beat to WWV.
Can you send me a copy of your chirp programming file..
Larry W8LM
"You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: You send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. " - Albert Einstein, explaining radio
On Friday, March 27, 2020, 9:14:02 AM CDT, Mike < aerospaced@...> wrote:
I have fought for a year trying to get me baofeng (uv82, uv82hp, uv5r) radios to connect to w0vfw, and wouus. I've tried chirp, I've tried manual programming.? Right now with chirp, I can key up the transmitter. I get the Rodger beep after I release the transmit button.? All 5 radios will talk to each other on simplex.? So they can transmit.? I bought a little frequency counter that Larry showed me, non of the radios are right on frequency but within 100khz.the frequency seems to be close enough that it keys up the repeater, just no voice. I tried to include the chirp file, but it never posted.?
-- Michael Holmes, ? "When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return." ?? - Leonardo da Vinci
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Re: KD0WPG is there anyone who can help me get on repeaters
I will load that and try after the repeater is quiet
On Sat, Mar 28, 2020, 3:22 PM Larry Macionski W8LM via Groups.Io <larmac17= [email protected]> wrote: Try the file attached. You had channels set to 20KC, they shoul dbe 5Kc.. see it that works..
Larry W8LM
"You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: You send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. " - Albert Einstein, explaining radio
On Saturday, March 28, 2020, 3:00:49 PM CDT, Larry Macionski W8LM via Groups.Io <larmac17= [email protected]> wrote:
Mike I am confused.. The only beep W?VFW does? is a courtesy beep at the end of a transmission that is a delay between dropping of the carrier and 1 to 1.5 seconds then Beep then about 2 seconds later the repeater carrier drops. It is generated by the repeater. ?It's purpose is to have all operators standby till the beep to allow others to enter the conversation, hence a courtesy beep. Also if someone starts talking before th ecourtesy beep, the repeater timer will continue to run, and time out that person instead of resetting the 3 minute talk timer.
A "roger beep" (a carryover from CB not ham radio) is generated by the user's radio. It is to indicate the person talking has ended his transmission. CB does not have any timers.
The W?VFW repeater transmits a DPL tone of 071 but receives a PL tone of 103.5... The reason for that is if they were both the same a spurious transmitter could trip the receiver. That is not our case. The second reason is I hear 2-3 repeaters on our frequency, Topeka, Ponca City and Oklahoma City. Probably because of antenna height and troposphere conditions.
Currently W?VFW is connected to Blind Hams Talk Group. there is light activity, but tonight there will be a net at 8PM tonight..
Larry W8LM
"You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: You send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. " - Albert Einstein, explaining radio
On Saturday, March 28, 2020, 10:28:59 AM CDT, Mike < aerospaced@...> wrote:
I've posted twice, once with the chirp file, but it never came?through.? So I reposted with a text paste.? Yes I can get the roger beep from both w0uus and w0vfw, just no audio.? If you do get the file, I posted, from 21 on, was a cut and past from the chirps repeater directory.
Mike KD0WPG On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 9:01 AM Larry Macionski W8LM via Groups.Io <larmac17= [email protected]> wrote: Do you get the Squelch tail of the repeater? When you transmit. W?UUS is about 95th Street and K-15. W?VFW is at Anna and W. Douglas in Are you within 5 miles of one or the other? Those frequency counters I showed you have a trimmer on the rear that you need to zero beat to WWV.
Can you send me a copy of your chirp programming file..
Larry W8LM
"You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: You send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. " - Albert Einstein, explaining radio
On Friday, March 27, 2020, 9:14:02 AM CDT, Mike < aerospaced@...> wrote:
I have fought for a year trying to get me baofeng (uv82, uv82hp, uv5r) radios to connect to w0vfw, and wouus. I've tried chirp, I've tried manual programming.? Right now with chirp, I can key up the transmitter. I get the Rodger beep after I release the transmit button.? All 5 radios will talk to each other on simplex.? So they can transmit.? I bought a little frequency counter that Larry showed me, non of the radios are right on frequency but within 100khz.the frequency seems to be close enough that it keys up the repeater, just no voice. I tried to include the chirp file, but it never posted.?
-- Michael Holmes, ? "When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return." ?? - Leonardo da Vinci
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Re: KD0WPG is there anyone who can help me get on repeaters
When I let up, I hear two little beeps from w0vfw it sounds like dit dah, and it is each and every time I let up
Mike? Kw0wpg
On Sat, Mar 28, 2020, 3:00 PM Larry Macionski W8LM via Groups.Io <larmac17= [email protected]> wrote: Mike I am confused.. The only beep W?VFW does? is a courtesy beep at the end of a transmission that is a delay between dropping of the carrier and 1 to 1.5 seconds then Beep then about 2 seconds later the repeater carrier drops. It is generated by the repeater. ?It's purpose is to have all operators standby till the beep to allow others to enter the conversation, hence a courtesy beep. Also if someone starts talking before th ecourtesy beep, the repeater timer will continue to run, and time out that person instead of resetting the 3 minute talk timer.
A "roger beep" (a carryover from CB not ham radio) is generated by the user's radio. It is to indicate the person talking has ended his transmission. CB does not have any timers.
The W?VFW repeater transmits a DPL tone of 071 but receives a PL tone of 103.5... The reason for that is if they were both the same a spurious transmitter could trip the receiver. That is not our case. The second reason is I hear 2-3 repeaters on our frequency, Topeka, Ponca City and Oklahoma City. Probably because of antenna height and troposphere conditions.
Currently W?VFW is connected to Blind Hams Talk Group. there is light activity, but tonight there will be a net at 8PM tonight..
Larry W8LM
"You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: You send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. " - Albert Einstein, explaining radio
On Saturday, March 28, 2020, 10:28:59 AM CDT, Mike < aerospaced@...> wrote:
I've posted twice, once with the chirp file, but it never came?through.? So I reposted with a text paste.? Yes I can get the roger beep from both w0uus and w0vfw, just no audio.? If you do get the file, I posted, from 21 on, was a cut and past from the chirps repeater directory.
Mike KD0WPG On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 9:01 AM Larry Macionski W8LM via Groups.Io <larmac17= [email protected]> wrote: Do you get the Squelch tail of the repeater? When you transmit. W?UUS is about 95th Street and K-15. W?VFW is at Anna and W. Douglas in Are you within 5 miles of one or the other? Those frequency counters I showed you have a trimmer on the rear that you need to zero beat to WWV.
Can you send me a copy of your chirp programming file..
Larry W8LM
"You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: You send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. " - Albert Einstein, explaining radio
On Friday, March 27, 2020, 9:14:02 AM CDT, Mike < aerospaced@...> wrote:
I have fought for a year trying to get me baofeng (uv82, uv82hp, uv5r) radios to connect to w0vfw, and wouus. I've tried chirp, I've tried manual programming.? Right now with chirp, I can key up the transmitter. I get the Rodger beep after I release the transmit button.? All 5 radios will talk to each other on simplex.? So they can transmit.? I bought a little frequency counter that Larry showed me, non of the radios are right on frequency but within 100khz.the frequency seems to be close enough that it keys up the repeater, just no voice. I tried to include the chirp file, but it never posted.?
-- Michael Holmes, ? "When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return." ?? - Leonardo da Vinci
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Re: KD0WPG is there anyone who can help me get on repeaters
Try the file attached. You had channels set to 20KC, they shoul dbe 5Kc.. see it that works..
Larry W8LM
"You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: You send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. " - Albert Einstein, explaining radio
On Saturday, March 28, 2020, 3:00:49 PM CDT, Larry Macionski W8LM via Groups.Io <larmac17@...> wrote:
Mike I am confused.. The only beep W?VFW does? is a courtesy beep at the end of a transmission that is a delay between dropping of the carrier and 1 to 1.5 seconds then Beep then about 2 seconds later the repeater carrier drops. It is generated by the repeater. ?It's purpose is to have all operators standby till the beep to allow others to enter the conversation, hence a courtesy beep. Also if someone starts talking before th ecourtesy beep, the repeater timer will continue to run, and time out that person instead of resetting the 3 minute talk timer.
A "roger beep" (a carryover from CB not ham radio) is generated by the user's radio. It is to indicate the person talking has ended his transmission. CB does not have any timers.
The W?VFW repeater transmits a DPL tone of 071 but receives a PL tone of 103.5... The reason for that is if they were both the same a spurious transmitter could trip the receiver. That is not our case. The second reason is I hear 2-3 repeaters on our frequency, Topeka, Ponca City and Oklahoma City. Probably because of antenna height and troposphere conditions.
Currently W?VFW is connected to Blind Hams Talk Group. there is light activity, but tonight there will be a net at 8PM tonight..
Larry W8LM
"You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: You send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. " - Albert Einstein, explaining radio
On Saturday, March 28, 2020, 10:28:59 AM CDT, Mike <aerospaced@...> wrote:
I've posted twice, once with the chirp file, but it never came?through.? So I reposted with a text paste.? Yes I can get the roger beep from both w0uus and w0vfw, just no audio.? If you do get the file, I posted, from 21 on, was a cut and past from the chirps repeater directory.
Mike KD0WPG
On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 9:01 AM Larry Macionski W8LM via Groups.Io <larmac17= [email protected]> wrote: Do you get the Squelch tail of the repeater? When you transmit. W?UUS is about 95th Street and K-15. W?VFW is at Anna and W. Douglas in Are you within 5 miles of one or the other? Those frequency counters I showed you have a trimmer on the rear that you need to zero beat to WWV.
Can you send me a copy of your chirp programming file..
Larry W8LM
"You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: You send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. " - Albert Einstein, explaining radio
On Friday, March 27, 2020, 9:14:02 AM CDT, Mike < aerospaced@...> wrote:
I have fought for a year trying to get me baofeng (uv82, uv82hp, uv5r) radios to connect to w0vfw, and wouus. I've tried chirp, I've tried manual programming.? Right now with chirp, I can key up the transmitter. I get the Rodger beep after I release the transmit button.? All 5 radios will talk to each other on simplex.? So they can transmit.? I bought a little frequency counter that Larry showed me, non of the radios are right on frequency but within 100khz.the frequency seems to be close enough that it keys up the repeater, just no voice. I tried to include the chirp file, but it never posted.?
-- Michael Holmes, ? "When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return." ?? - Leonardo da Vinci
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Re: KD0WPG is there anyone who can help me get on repeaters
Mike I am confused.. The only beep W?VFW does? is a courtesy beep at the end of a transmission that is a delay between dropping of the carrier and 1 to 1.5 seconds then Beep then about 2 seconds later the repeater carrier drops. It is generated by the repeater. ?It's purpose is to have all operators standby till the beep to allow others to enter the conversation, hence a courtesy beep. Also if someone starts talking before th ecourtesy beep, the repeater timer will continue to run, and time out that person instead of resetting the 3 minute talk timer.
A "roger beep" (a carryover from CB not ham radio) is generated by the user's radio. It is to indicate the person talking has ended his transmission. CB does not have any timers.
The W?VFW repeater transmits a DPL tone of 071 but receives a PL tone of 103.5... The reason for that is if they were both the same a spurious transmitter could trip the receiver. That is not our case. The second reason is I hear 2-3 repeaters on our frequency, Topeka, Ponca City and Oklahoma City. Probably because of antenna height and troposphere conditions.
Currently W?VFW is connected to Blind Hams Talk Group. there is light activity, but tonight there will be a net at 8PM tonight..
Larry W8LM
"You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: You send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. " - Albert Einstein, explaining radio
On Saturday, March 28, 2020, 10:28:59 AM CDT, Mike <aerospaced@...> wrote:
I've posted twice, once with the chirp file, but it never came?through.? So I reposted with a text paste.? Yes I can get the roger beep from both w0uus and w0vfw, just no audio.? If you do get the file, I posted, from 21 on, was a cut and past from the chirps repeater directory.
Mike KD0WPG
On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 9:01 AM Larry Macionski W8LM via Groups.Io <larmac17= [email protected]> wrote: Do you get the Squelch tail of the repeater? When you transmit. W?UUS is about 95th Street and K-15. W?VFW is at Anna and W. Douglas in Are you within 5 miles of one or the other? Those frequency counters I showed you have a trimmer on the rear that you need to zero beat to WWV.
Can you send me a copy of your chirp programming file..
Larry W8LM
"You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: You send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. " - Albert Einstein, explaining radio
On Friday, March 27, 2020, 9:14:02 AM CDT, Mike < aerospaced@...> wrote:
I have fought for a year trying to get me baofeng (uv82, uv82hp, uv5r) radios to connect to w0vfw, and wouus. I've tried chirp, I've tried manual programming.? Right now with chirp, I can key up the transmitter. I get the Rodger beep after I release the transmit button.? All 5 radios will talk to each other on simplex.? So they can transmit.? I bought a little frequency counter that Larry showed me, non of the radios are right on frequency but within 100khz.the frequency seems to be close enough that it keys up the repeater, just no voice. I tried to include the chirp file, but it never posted.?
-- Michael Holmes, ? "When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return." ?? - Leonardo da Vinci
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Re: KD0WPG is there anyone who can help me get on repeaters
I've posted twice, once with the chirp file, but it never came?through.? So I reposted with a text paste.? Yes I can get the roger beep from both w0uus and w0vfw, just no audio.? If you do get the file, I posted, from 21 on, was a cut and past from the chirps repeater directory.
Mike KD0WPG
On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 9:01 AM Larry Macionski W8LM via Groups.Io <larmac17= [email protected]> wrote: Do you get the Squelch tail of the repeater? When you transmit. W?UUS is about 95th Street and K-15. W?VFW is at Anna and W. Douglas in Are you within 5 miles of one or the other? Those frequency counters I showed you have a trimmer on the rear that you need to zero beat to WWV.
Can you send me a copy of your chirp programming file..
Larry W8LM
"You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: You send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. " - Albert Einstein, explaining radio
On Friday, March 27, 2020, 9:14:02 AM CDT, Mike < aerospaced@...> wrote:
I have fought for a year trying to get me baofeng (uv82, uv82hp, uv5r) radios to connect to w0vfw, and wouus. I've tried chirp, I've tried manual programming.? Right now with chirp, I can key up the transmitter. I get the Rodger beep after I release the transmit button.? All 5 radios will talk to each other on simplex.? So they can transmit.? I bought a little frequency counter that Larry showed me, non of the radios are right on frequency but within 100khz.the frequency seems to be close enough that it keys up the repeater, just no voice. I tried to include the chirp file, but it never posted.?
-- Michael Holmes, ? "When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skywards, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return." ?? - Leonardo da Vinci
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Re: KD0WPG is there anyone who can help me get on repeaters
Do you get the Squelch tail of the repeater? When you transmit. W?UUS is about 95th Street and K-15. W?VFW is at Anna and W. Douglas in Are you within 5 miles of one or the other? Those frequency counters I showed you have a trimmer on the rear that you need to zero beat to WWV.
Can you send me a copy of your chirp programming file..
Send it to am_fm_radio@...?
Larry W8LM
"You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat. You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly the same way: You send signals here, they receive them there. The only difference is that there is no cat. " - Albert Einstein, explaining radio
On Friday, March 27, 2020, 9:14:02 AM CDT, Mike <aerospaced@...> wrote:
I have fought for a year trying to get me baofeng (uv82, uv82hp, uv5r) radios to connect to w0vfw, and wouus. I've tried chirp, I've tried manual programming.? Right now with chirp, I can key up the transmitter. I get the Rodger beep after I release the transmit button.? All 5 radios will talk to each other on simplex.? So they can transmit.? I bought a little frequency counter that Larry showed me, non of the radios are right on frequency but within 100khz.the frequency seems to be close enough that it keys up the repeater, just no voice. I tried to include the chirp file, but it never posted.?
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