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Varian 860 cold cathode controller

 

I have a dead varian 860 cold cathode controller for a vacuum gauge. It got shorted out inside and I’m not sure I can fix it (replacing one burned out resistor didn’t suffice) and I’m not sure of my ability to track down and fix anything else that blew out also.

Anybody have a good one they’d like to sell? The 860A would probably work, too.

Guy in cold & cloudy DC


Re: Past Its Hay-Day?

 

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That is James over on west coast of Florida. ?He helped me build up my vacuum system (baby George) but i have not heard from him in years. ?

Drew in sunny Fla


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-------- Original message --------
From: "Thomas Janstrom t_janstrom@... [VacuumX]"
Date:11/15/2017 9:02 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: VacuumX@...
Subject: Re: [VacuumX] Re: Past Its Hay-Day?

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Pretty sure he was a member here at one time....?

All my kit came of eBay even if at time postage was more than the item price!?

So guys keep your eyes open you’d be surprised where gear can show up.

Thomas.


On 16 Nov 2017, at 11:53 am, Wayne Hilliard woodycxd@... [VacuumX] <VacuumX@...> wrote:

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Check this out!




FYI this guy is pretty sharp. You get get along with a chamber made from a propane cylinder. He also has built a bigger system using carbon steel plate and a welder. Try to get creative. Diffusion pumps I think are on ebay a fair amount.

Wayne Hilliard


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I used an old ammonia tank from an industrial refrigeration system, 1/2" thick walls 18" in diameter. Was a bear to cut wet too considering it was 6' long!

Got to love a good scrap yard.

Thomas.


On 16/11/2017 4:44 PM, srosefx@... [VacuumX] wrote:

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nope...we have Trademe.co.nz but its way over priced for second hand stuff and very rarely anything interesting turns up...when it does they want full price someimes far more than if it were new!!!


i do buy ebay usa though and europe...i recently got a really cool Depostion controller, it measures and monitors the thickness of depostion coatings for 200 bucks! really neat kit.

A VAC chamber form a pressure vessel?? i thought that wouldnt work and they are designed thin but compound to resist burst pressure rather than vacuume.. i cut one open myself and it was 2.5mm thick not enough for a vacumm. maybe 4mm mild steel right?


Re: Past Its Hay-Day?

 

nope...we have Trademe.co.nz but its way over priced for second hand stuff and very rarely anything interesting turns up...when it does they want full price someimes far more than if it were new!!!

i do buy ebay usa though and europe...i recently got a really cool Depostion controller, it measures and monitors the thickness of depostion coatings for 200 bucks! really neat kit.

A VAC chamber form a pressure vessel?? i thought that wouldnt work and they are designed thin but compound to resist burst pressure rather than vacuume.. i cut one open myself and it was 2.5mm thick not enough for a vacumm. maybe 4mm mild steel right?


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Pretty sure he was a member here at one time....?
All my kit came of eBay even if at time postage was more than the item price!?

So guys keep your eyes open you’d be surprised where gear can show up.

Thomas.


On 16 Nov 2017, at 11:53 am, Wayne Hilliard woodycxd@... [VacuumX] <VacuumX@...> wrote:

?

Check this out!




FYI this guy is pretty sharp. You get get along with a chamber made from a propane cylinder. He also has built a bigger system using carbon steel plate and a welder. Try to get creative. Diffusion pumps I think are on ebay a fair amount.

Wayne Hilliard


Re: Past Its Hay-Day?

 

Check this out!




FYI this guy is pretty sharp. You get get along with a chamber made from a propane cylinder. He also has built a bigger system using carbon steel plate and a welder. Try to get creative. Diffusion pumps I think are on ebay a fair amount.

Wayne Hilliard


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Hi Drew,

Yes it is, I'm actually in a dual degree program, so get my medical doctorate and a bachelors in surgery too... Long road indeed!

How are things in sunny Florida these days?

Cheers, Thomas


On 15/11/2017 11:35 PM, Andrew Aurigema eosraptor@... [VacuumX] wrote:

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Thomas,

Good to hear you have stayed with the college effort.? Is MD some Aussie way to say Medical Doctor.? If so, congrads.? It has been a long road for you.?

Drew in sunny Florida

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 4:47 AM, Thomas Janstrom t_janstrom@... [VacuumX] <VacuumX@...> wrote:
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List owner here....

So where I'm at: I donated my vacuum rig and mirror grinding gear to a local observatory and am now a semester out from completing my MD degree....

So if anyone wants to take over the group and migrate it to another platform, please hit me up, I would hate to see the archive of knowledge disappear!

Cheers from Down Under.

Thomas Janstrom


On 15/11/2017 3:46 PM, srosefx@... [VacuumX] wrote:
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I think im going to move to PA!!!

But alas its a long way from New Zealand.

I myself am a lurker, and not messaged within this group before, im collecting pieces to build myself a telescope sputtering chamber, so i joined to get tips and to learn from some rather experienced individuals.

Im almost there, all i need is a diffusion pump and either a 14" bell jar or a tig welded stainless chamber, but getting hold of pressure vessel heads here in NZ is nigh impossible as with almost everything i am interested in...so its custom spun heads or a bell jar, both qiute expensive.
I am so enviouse of the surplus shops and brick'a'brack junk shops you have in the USA, i tottaly would jump in my truck and travel interstate to pick up an old chamber or bell jar, the adventure of driving tot new places and to pick up some "science gold" at the end of that rainbow is intoxicating. nerd-vana!!






Re: Past Its Hay-Day?

 

No ebay in NZ?

Monroe

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: [VacuumX] Re: Past Its Hay-Day?
From: "srosefx@... [VacuumX]" <VacuumX@...>
Date: Tue, November 14, 2017 10:46 pm
To: <VacuumX@...>


I think im going to move to PA!!! But alas its a long way from New Zealand.





I myself am a lurker, and not messaged within this group before, im collecting pieces to build myself a telescope sputtering chamber, so i joined to get tips and to learn from some rather experienced individuals.





Im almost there, all i need is a diffusion pump and either a 14" bell jar or a tig welded stainless chamber, but getting hold of pressure vessel heads here in NZ is nigh impossible as with almost everything i am interested in...so its custom spun heads or a bell jar, both qiute expensive.

I am so enviouse of the surplus shops and brick'a'brack junk shops you have in the USA, i tottaly would jump in my truck and travel interstate to pick up an old chamber or bell jar, the adventure of driving tot new places and to pick up some "science gold" at the end of that rainbow is intoxicating. nerd-vana!!


Re: Past Its Hay-Day?

 

Thomas,

Good to hear you have stayed with the college effort.? Is MD some Aussie way to say Medical Doctor.? If so, congrads.? It has been a long road for you.?

Drew in sunny Florida

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 4:47 AM, Thomas Janstrom t_janstrom@... [VacuumX] <VacuumX@...> wrote:
?

List owner here....

So where I'm at: I donated my vacuum rig and mirror grinding gear to a local observatory and am now a semester out from completing my MD degree....

So if anyone wants to take over the group and migrate it to another platform, please hit me up, I would hate to see the archive of knowledge disappear!

Cheers from Down Under.

Thomas Janstrom


On 15/11/2017 3:46 PM, srosefx@... [VacuumX] wrote:
?

I think im going to move to PA!!!

But alas its a long way from New Zealand.

I myself am a lurker, and not messaged within this group before, im collecting pieces to build myself a telescope sputtering chamber, so i joined to get tips and to learn from some rather experienced individuals.

Im almost there, all i need is a diffusion pump and either a 14" bell jar or a tig welded stainless chamber, but getting hold of pressure vessel heads here in NZ is nigh impossible as with almost everything i am interested in...so its custom spun heads or a bell jar, both qiute expensive.
I am so enviouse of the surplus shops and brick'a'brack junk shops you have in the USA, i tottaly would jump in my truck and travel interstate to pick up an old chamber or bell jar, the adventure of driving tot new places and to pick up some "science gold" at the end of that rainbow is intoxicating. nerd-vana!!





Re: Past Its Hay-Day?

 

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List owner here....

So where I'm at: I donated my vacuum rig and mirror grinding gear to a local observatory and am now a semester out from completing my MD degree....

So if anyone wants to take over the group and migrate it to another platform, please hit me up, I would hate to see the archive of knowledge disappear!

Cheers from Down Under.

Thomas Janstrom


On 15/11/2017 3:46 PM, srosefx@... [VacuumX] wrote:

?

I think im going to move to PA!!!

But alas its a long way from New Zealand.

I myself am a lurker, and not messaged within this group before, im collecting pieces to build myself a telescope sputtering chamber, so i joined to get tips and to learn from some rather experienced individuals.

Im almost there, all i need is a diffusion pump and either a 14" bell jar or a tig welded stainless chamber, but getting hold of pressure vessel heads here in NZ is nigh impossible as with almost everything i am interested in...so its custom spun heads or a bell jar, both qiute expensive.
I am so enviouse of the surplus shops and brick'a'brack junk shops you have in the USA, i tottaly would jump in my truck and travel interstate to pick up an old chamber or bell jar, the adventure of driving tot new places and to pick up some "science gold" at the end of that rainbow is intoxicating. nerd-vana!!




Re: Past Its Hay-Day?

 

I think im going to move to PA!!!
But alas its a long way from New Zealand.

I myself am a lurker, and not messaged within this group before, im collecting pieces to build myself a telescope sputtering chamber, so i joined to get tips and to learn from some rather experienced individuals.

Im almost there, all i need is a diffusion pump and either a 14" bell jar or a tig welded stainless chamber, but getting hold of pressure vessel heads here in NZ is nigh impossible as with almost everything i am interested in...so its custom spun heads or a bell jar, both qiute expensive.
I am so enviouse of the surplus shops and brick'a'brack junk shops you have in the USA, i tottaly would jump in my truck and travel interstate to pick up an old chamber or bell jar, the adventure of driving tot new places and to pick up some "science gold" at the end of that rainbow is intoxicating. nerd-vana!!



getting started, etc (was Re: Past Its Hay-Day?)

 

On 11/14/2017 10:06 AM, Nick Andrews nickjandrews@... [VacuumX] wrote:
So where is THE place to go for information now?? I have been lurking
for years and collecting various equipment, waiting for the time when I
have space to set up rigs for experiments and such.
Same here, and now I'm just waiting for a bored mentor type of guy
who's stuck in a small house to start showing up at my lab to get things
going with vacuum.

I'm an electronics guy working as a consultant in the embedded systems
world. I have a background in instrumentation, some working knowledge
of lasers and physics stuff, and a strong interest in vacuum systems. I
have some vacuum hardware, and a lot of lab space (which seems to be
what most people lack, which is why I mentioned "stuck in a small house"
above) in a pair of commercial buildings that I own.

I'm based just outside of Pittsburgh. Is anyone here nearby and up
for hacking? I've got some hardware (and am willing to amass more),
space, power, and interest...just need someone to work with who will
take the lead on getting some vacuum goodness going.

Oh, and there's also that nice electron microscope over on the other
side of my lab. I had it running great many years ago, but it has been
open to air since then. Gotta get that running. Anyone?

-Dave

--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA


Re: Past Its Hay-Day?

 

On 11/14/2017 12:12 PM, 'Christopher Erickson'
christopher.k.erickson@... [VacuumX] wrote:
IMHO, Yahoo groups is still as good as it gets, for now.
Eh.

Who knows what the future holds.

I am a mod on Cloudy Nights. They already have an ATM forum but I could
ask if they are willing to add a vacuum forum. Odds are probably not
good for getting one though.
Most of the Yahoo Groups folks have migrated to groups.io. It was
built as a replacement for Yahoo Groups, when Yahoo started really going
downhill business-wise. It was built by the original developer of the
Yahoo Groups system, and is very good; it has some nice migration tools
that can be used to move group files, even archives I think. It's good
stuff.

(I don't work for them or anything, I'm just a very happy user)

-Dave

--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA


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Steve J. Noll
 

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Well, let’s generate some traffic!

?

About 25 years ago I worked at a small thin film R&D outfit in Ventura CA. It was the most fun job I’ve had. Part of it was maintaining the sputtering system that was central to the whole operation. It had a 5HP mechanical roughing pump followed by a small turbo. Turbo was connected to the load lock chamber. The sputtering chamber itself was pumped by a cryo. It was a two target Gartek sputtering system. A shuttle system, magnetically coupled to an external drive, moved a pallet holding the wafer to be coated from the load lock to the first position - a water-cooled table that raised up to hold the pallet. Bellows allowed the motion in the vacuum. Once the cryo took the chamber down to 10^-6 Torr (ion & pirani gauges) the chamber was flooded with a small amount of Argon. A magnetron target above the wafer was then energized with either 13.56 MHz RF if it was a dielectric target or DC HV for conductive target. The resulting plasma sputtered the atoms from the target to the wafer. When that was done the wafer on the pallet could be moved farther into the system to the next table and target for the next material coating. We sputtered Gold, Palladium, Titanium, Titanium-Tungsten, Copper, and some dielectrics that I don’t recall. I wrote the software that ran the system in Forth (the boss liked Forth) rebuilt each pump, designed the load lock door and target magnets, and so on. Thus began my love of vacuum science. Now I have a small diffusion pumped system in my home shop, just for fun.

?

The gurgle of a roughing pump, the whine of an accelerating turbo, the throbbing of a cryo cold head drive. Music to my ears.


Steve WA6EJO



Re: Past Its Hay-Day?

 

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IMHO, Yahoo groups is still as good as it gets, for now.
?
Who knows what the future holds.
?
I am a mod on Cloudy Nights.? They already have an ATM forum but I could ask if they are willing to add a vacuum forum.? Odds are probably not good for getting one though.
?
?
-Christopher Erickson
Observatory engineer
Summit Kinetics
Waikoloa, HI 96738

?



From: VacuumX@... [mailto:VacuumX@...]
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2017 5:06 AM
To: VacuumX@...
Subject: RE: [VacuumX] Past Its Hay-Day?

So where is THE place to go for information now?? I have been lurking for years and collecting various equipment, waiting for the time when I have space to set up rigs for experiments and such.

On Nov 13, 2017 1:39 PM, "'Christopher Erickson' christopher.k.erickson@... [VacuumX]" <VacuumX@...> wrote:
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All Yahoo groups have been dwindling for years now.
?
Google and Bing/MS stopped searching and indexing Yahoo Groups so new members have become nearly nonexistent.
?
You can try it yourself.? Do a Google search for things that you KNOW can be found in Yahoo groups but don't use either the word "Yahoo" or word "Group."
?
?
-Christopher Erickson
Observatory engineer
Summit Kinetics
Waikoloa, HI 96738

?


From: VacuumX@... [mailto:VacuumX@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 5:25 PM
To: VacuumX@...
Subject: [VacuumX] Past Its Hay-Day?

Such a pity. This group has been tailing off since 2011. Such a wealth of insight too! Think a Yahoo re-org had something to do with it.


Virus-free.


Re: Past Its Hay-Day?

 

So where is THE place to go for information now?? I have been lurking for years and collecting various equipment, waiting for the time when I have space to set up rigs for experiments and such.

On Nov 13, 2017 1:39 PM, "'Christopher Erickson' christopher.k.erickson@... [VacuumX]" <VacuumX@...> wrote:
?

All Yahoo groups have been dwindling for years now.
?
Google and Bing/MS stopped searching and indexing Yahoo Groups so new members have become nearly nonexistent.
?
You can try it yourself.? Do a Google search for things that you KNOW can be found in Yahoo groups but don't use either the word "Yahoo" or word "Group."
?
?
-Christopher Erickson
Observatory engineer
Summit Kinetics
Waikoloa, HI 96738

?


From: VacuumX@... [mailto:VacuumX@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 5:25 PM
To: VacuumX@...
Subject: [VacuumX] Past Its Hay-Day?

Such a pity. This group has been tailing off since 2011. Such a wealth of insight too! Think a Yahoo re-org had something to do with it.


Virus-free.


Re: Past Its Hay-Day?

 

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All Yahoo groups have been dwindling for years now.
?
Google and Bing/MS stopped searching and indexing Yahoo Groups so new members have become nearly nonexistent.
?
You can try it yourself.? Do a Google search for things that you KNOW can be found in Yahoo groups but don't use either the word "Yahoo" or word "Group."
?
?
-Christopher Erickson
Observatory engineer
Summit Kinetics
Waikoloa, HI 96738

?



From: VacuumX@... [mailto:VacuumX@...]
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 5:25 PM
To: VacuumX@...
Subject: [VacuumX] Past Its Hay-Day?

Such a pity. This group has been tailing off since 2011. Such a wealth of insight too! Think a Yahoo re-org had something to do with it.


Virus-free.


Re: Past Its Hay-Day?

 

Well, let’s generate some traffic!

?

About 25 years ago I worked at a small thin film R&D outfit in Ventura CA. It was the most fun job I’ve had. Part of it was maintaining the sputtering system that was central to the whole operation. It had a 5HP mechanical roughing pump followed by a small turbo. Turbo was connected to the load lock chamber. The sputtering chamber itself was pumped by a cryo. It was a two target Gartek sputtering system. A shuttle system, magnetically coupled to an external drive, moved a pallet holding the wafer to be coated from the load lock to the first position - a water-cooled table that raised up to hold the pallet. Bellows allowed the motion in the vacuum. Once the cryo took the chamber down to 10^-6 Torr (ion & pirani gauges) the chamber was flooded with a small amount of Argon. A magnetron target above the wafer was then energized with either 13.56 MHz RF if it was a dielectric target or DC HV for conductive target. The resulting plasma sputtered the atoms from the target to the wafer. When that was done the wafer on the pallet could be moved farther into the system to the next table and target for the next material coating. We sputtered Gold, Palladium, Titanium, Titanium-Tungsten, Copper, and some dielectrics that I don’t recall. I wrote the software that ran the system in Forth (the boss liked Forth) rebuilt each pump, designed the load lock door and target magnets, and so on. Thus began my love of vacuum science. Now I have a small diffusion pumped system in my home shop, just for fun.

?

The gurgle of a roughing pump, the whine of an accelerating turbo, the throbbing of a cryo cold head drive. Music to my ears.


WA6EJO


?


Re: Past Its Hay-Day?

 

The has been fine for the interferometry group for a few years now.??

Drew in sunny FLA

On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 10:44 PM, Dave McGuire Mcguire@... [VacuumX] <VacuumX@...> wrote:
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On 11/12/2017 10:25 PM, betwys1@... [VacuumX] wrote:
> Such a pity. This group has been tailing off since 2011. Such a wealth
> of insight too! Think a Yahoo re-org had something to do with it.

It should definitely be moved, probably to like the rest of
the Yahoo! groups, before it disappears completely.

-Dave

--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA



Re: Past Its Hay-Day?

 

On 11/12/2017 10:25 PM, betwys1@... [VacuumX] wrote:
Such a pity. This group has been tailing off since 2011. Such a wealth
of insight too! Think a Yahoo re-org had something to do with it.
It should definitely be moved, probably to groups.io like the rest of
the Yahoo! groups, before it disappears completely.

-Dave

--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA