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Re: "Cheap" vacuum


 

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From: VacuumX@... [mailto:VacuumX@...] On Behalf Of Simon Quellen Field
Sent: Monday, June 06, 2011 12:44 PM
To: VacuumX@...
Subject: Re: [VacuumX] "Cheap" vacuum

Fill the box with steam, and then freeze it?
Theory says that should get you to 6 millibars (0.6 kilopascals).

Brian -- If he has a 5 liter box at a 1,013.25 millibars, and he wants to
get to 10 millibars, wouldn't he need to attach a completely empty 511.625
liter vacuum chamber to it in order to get both the box and the vacuum
chamber to equalize at 10 millibars?

Finding and evacuating a 136 gallon vacuum chamber (or larger if he can only
evacuate it to a few millibars) might not be all that cheap.

If freezing it is difficult where there is no electricity, perhaps filling the box
with molten lead, and then emptying it through a 3 foot pipe in the bottom
might work. The weight of the molten lead would leave a vacuum as it poured
out into a holding basin, much like the original mercury barometers. Lead/tin
solder could also be used, to get a lower melting point, but he would need
a longer pipe, since the density is 8.79 instead of leads 11.34.

5 liters of solder weighs a little under 100 pounds. At $6 per pound for 80/20
lead/tin solder, that's $600.00.

He could get a cheap vacuum pump like the ones they use to reclaim Freon
from car air conditioners for about $100, and an inverter for a car for about
$20 (to convert the car's 12 volts DC into 120 volts AC). It might take all day
for the pump to do the job, but it's cheaper than lead.
;-)

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On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 3:14 PM, brian whatcott <betwys1@...> wrote:
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On 6/6/2011 5:55 AM, slavkok wrote:
> Hello...
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> I need to make vacuum in range 5 to 10 mBar. What device to use for that. I need to evacuate aprox 5 litre box but I do not have electricity on place where I need to do that. What options I have?
>
> Thanks
Prepare bottles of vacuum. transfer them to container, on site? :-)

Brian W


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