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Hello -- I am connecting to a local Winlink RMS via VARA-FM.? Although I get a connection, my outboxes messages aren't sent, and I'm not receiving any messages I have coming in.
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Here are the messages I get when I connect:
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In WinLink session window:
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*** Connected to Winlink RMS: K7NWS-10 @ 2025/02/15 21:55:55 ?Freq: 439.825
BEARS West Tiger Mountain 47.5088N 121.9850W
*** Disconnected from Winlink RMS: K7NWS-10 @ 2025/02/15 21:56:02
*** Session: 0.1 min; ?Avg Throughput: 0 Bytes/min; ? 1 Min Peak Throughput: 0 Bytes/min
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In VARA-FM logs:
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2025-02-15 21:55:53 ? ?Connecting to K7NWS-10... 1/10
2025-02-15 21:55:53 ? ?<-UNENCRYPTED LINK
2025-02-15 21:55:55 ? ?Connected to K7NWS-10
2025-02-15 21:55:57 ? ?<-SN
2025-02-15 21:56:00 ? ?<-SN
2025-02-15 21:56:01 ? ?QRT Received
2025-02-15 21:56:01 ? ?K7NWS-10 disconnected ? ? ?TX: 0 Bytes (Max: 0 bps) ? RX: 46 Bytes (Max: 566 bps) ? Session Time: 00:06
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Any ideas?? I have one message in the outbox and one message that should be landing in my inbox.
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I'm using a Yaesu FT-991A, FM mode (same thing happens in DATA-FM).? I have VARA-FM set to NARROW but also tried WIDE with the same results.
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Thanks,
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Dave
K7XST
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Dave K7XST wrote… I am connecting to a local Winlink RMS via VARA-FM. Although I get a connection, my outboxes messages aren't sent, and I'm not receiving any messages I have coming in. I was going to ask if the message stuck in your outbox was P2P instead if Winlink format, but… In WinLink session window:
*** Connected to Winlink RMS: K7NWS-10 @ 2025/02/15 21:55:55 Freq: 439.825
BEARS West Tiger Mountain 47.5088N 121.9850W
*** Disconnected from Winlink RMS: K7NWS-10 @ 2025/02/15 21:56:02 I see where you connected to the RMS, but I don’t see any evidence that it connected to a CMS. Any chance there is an RF problem? Perhaps weak signals on either end, or multi-path distortion? Is your antenna fixed, or can you move or turn it? Any ideas? I have one message in the outbox and one message that should be landing in my inbox. Again, check to make sure the message and your outbox is not in P2P format, but my guess is that there a problem on RF. Either you are having trouble hearing the RMS, or the RMS is having trouble hearing you. I'm using a Yaesu FT-991A, FM mode (same thing happens in DATA-FM). I have VARA-FM set to NARROW but also tried WIDE with the same results. I would think that it should be WIDE, but perhaps someone else can confirm that. PS - I sent a Winlink message to K7XST, so there should be at least that message in your inbox the next time you successfully connect. -- 73 Keith VE7GDH
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Thanks, Keith -- I received your message after switching over to VARA HF.? It looks like the only VARA-FM winlink server near me is not fully operational :-(? The signal coming from it is strong, and it seems to be reading me, but it isn't connecting to a CMS, as you noticed.
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On 2/15/2025 11:38 PM, Keith VE7GDH
wrote:
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I would think that it should be WIDE, but perhaps someone else can confirm that.
The built-in sound card of the FT-991 (identical to the external
Yaesu SCU-17 interface)? lacks the audio bandwidth for VARA-FM
wide.? To achieve the highest speeds VARA-FM is capable of, you
have to use an external sound device connected to the "9600
packet" audio pins of the 6-pin mini-DIN "data" port on the radio.
?Stephen H. Smith??? wa8lmf (at) aol.com
Skype:??????? WA8LMF
EchoLink:? Node #? 14400? [Think bottom of the 2-meter band]
Home Page:?????????
30 Meter?? APRS-over VARA? Frequency?? Details Here:
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- APRS over VARA? --
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"Studio B" Ham Shack on Wheels
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On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 09:31 PM, WA8LMF wrote:
I would think that it should be WIDE, but perhaps someone else can confirm that.
The built-in sound card of the FT-991 (identical to the external Yaesu SCU-17 interface)? lacks the audio bandwidth for VARA-FM wide.? To achieve the highest speeds VARA-FM is capable of, you have to use an external sound device connected to the "9600 packet" audio pins of the 6-pin mini-DIN "data" port on the radio.
Stephan;
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You are correct about the FT-991A internal sound card system not having the audio bandwidth to fully support VARA FM 'WIDE" mode, but keep in mind that VARA FM RMS Gateway (and P2P) stations configured for VARA FM WIDE will connect with VARA FM NARROW client stations.
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Your recommendation to connect the USB sound card to the "9600 packet" audio pins of the 6-pin mini-DIN "data" port doesn't apply to the FT-991 and FT-991A radios, however...
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When connecting an external USB sound-card rig interface device to the FT-991 / FT-991A radios, ops need to be aware that the mini-DIN6 'RTTY/DATA' connector on the back of the FT-991A does not have a dedicated "9600 packet" audio output signal, as is commonly available on the 'DATA' connector of other transceivers.
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On the majority of radios with a mini-DIN6 'DATA' connector, pin 4 is a wide-bandwidth audio output, direct from the FM discriminator circuit. On the FT-991A, pin 4 of the mini-DIN6 'RTTY/DATA' connector is configured as the RTTY "SHIFT" input, for direct FSK keying.
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When connecting an external USB sound-card rig interface device to the FT-991 / FT-991A, receive audio must be taken only from pin 5 ('DATA OUT'), regardless of whether the system will be used for VARA FM WIDE or VARA FM NARROW operation. Unlike other radios, the FT-991A can switch the signal routed to pin 5, depending on whether the radio is set for '1200 bps' or '9600 bps' data operation.
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Mark - AD7EF
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On 2/16/2025 3:26 PM, Mark Davis via
groups.io wrote:
On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 09:31 PM, WA8LMF wrote:
I would think that it should be WIDE, but perhaps someone else can confirm that.
The built-in sound card of the FT-991 (identical to the
external Yaesu SCU-17 interface)? lacks the audio bandwidth
for VARA-FM wide.? To achieve the highest speeds VARA-FM is
capable of, you have to use an external sound device
connected to the "9600 packet" audio pins of the 6-pin
mini-DIN "data" port on the radio.
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Your recommendation to connect the USB sound card to the
"9600 packet" audio pins of the 6-pin mini-DIN "data" port
doesn't apply to the FT-991 and FT-991A radios, however...
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When connecting an external USB sound-card rig interface
device to the FT-991 / FT-991A radios, ops need to be aware
that the mini-DIN6 'RTTY/DATA' connector on
the back of the FT-991A does not have a dedicated "9600
packet" audio output signal, as is commonly available on
the 'DATA' connector of other transceivers.
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On the majority of radios with a mini-DIN6 'DATA' connector,
pin 4 is a wide-bandwidth audio output, direct from the FM
discriminator circuit. On the FT-991A, pin 4 of the mini-DIN6
'RTTY/DATA' connector is configured as the RTTY "SHIFT" input,
for direct FSK keying.
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When connecting an external USB sound-card rig interface
device to the FT-991 / FT-991A, receive audio must be taken only
from pin 5 ('DATA OUT'), regardless of whether the system will
be used for VARA FM WIDE or VARA FM NARROW operation. Unlike
other radios, the FT-991A can switch the signal routed to pin 5,
depending on whether the radio is set for '1200 bps' or '9600
bps' data operation.
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Mark - AD7EF
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Oh Gawd.?? So Yaesu is screwing around AGAIN with the usage of
the supposedly standardized 6-pin Mini-DIN data port!?? I have 5
other Yaesus - three that conform with the standard, two that
don't, and now the '991 doesn't in yet another way...... ??
I have considered a '991A for my radio trailer "Studio B", but
this is another reason not to -- after the excessively high DC
power drain on receive (almost 3 amps).??
Stephen H. Smith??? wa8lmf (at) aol.com
Skype:??????? WA8LMF
EchoLink:? Node #? 14400? [Think bottom of the 2-meter band]
Home Page:?????????
30 Meter?? APRS-over VARA? Frequency?? Details Here:
????
- APRS over VARA? --
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"Studio B" Ham Shack on Wheels
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On Sat, Feb 15, 2025 at 09:23 PM, Dave Stewart / K7XST wrote:
It looks like the only VARA-FM winlink server near me is not fully operational :-(? The signal coming from it is strong, and it seems to be reading me, but it isn't connecting to a CMS, as you noticed.
Dave;
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Did you get the call sign for this VARA FM Gateway station from your Vara FM Winlink session channel selection list??
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Assuming you're operating in Snohomish WA, I see lots of VARA FM stations within 20 miles of your CN87wu grid square.
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I set up my Winlink Express system using the CN87wu grid square, and I didn't see K7NWS-10 on the channel list, though. Neither is it listed anywhere on the VARA FM "RMS List", as of 2/17/25.
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Here's the best prospects I see on the channel list for the CN87WU grid square:
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Mark - AD7EF
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I get the same result using an AIOC and a Baofeng HT with VARA-FM. Everything works great accessing a local packet BBS, so I know that the hardware is working, but when I try a Winlink session, I see that my radio connects, then I hear the Winlink node send a series of short bursts of data, but no decoding is taking place, and after a few iterations of this, the node disconnects, having neither sent nor received messages.
Dave KJ7WT
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How high is the VU meter on receiving?
On Sat, Feb 22, 2025 at 6:26?PM Dave Telling, KJ7WT via <davetelling= [email protected]> wrote: I get the same result using an AIOC and a Baofeng HT with VARA-FM. Everything works great accessing a local packet BBS, so I know that the hardware is working, but when I try a Winlink session, I see that my radio connects, then I hear the Winlink node send a series of short bursts of data, but no decoding is taking place, and after a few iterations of this, the node disconnects, having neither sent nor received messages.
Dave KJ7WT
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@W0EG: Top of the 3rd green arc, about "1:30" position.
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Make sure the cable is connected correctly. There are some cables that have an elbow in them, which be the side connecting to the radio. Connecting it with a straight jack will work but not transmit data. -Yigal M. Rechtman, CPA, CFE, CITP, CISM Forensic accounting and Litigation support
Cell:?917-566-0020 rechtman.com/privacy -- Yigal Rechtman
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Mark Davis
Yigal M. Rechtman (K2EFG)