I'm in Beaverton & successfully completed a VARA session to Bend.? Oregon?City should have same results.
Kevin k5vp
On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 2:41 PM Mark Davis < markad7ef@...> wrote: Lewis;
What kind of help are you looking for??
I live in Oregon City, and I have VARA HF capability (licensed). Not sure what path quality I would see between our QTHs, but I¡¯m willing to give it a go.
73
Mark Davis - AD7EF
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Lewis;
What kind of help are you looking for??
I live in Oregon City, and I have VARA HF capability (licensed). Not sure what path quality I would see between our QTHs, but I¡¯m willing to give it a go.
73
Mark Davis - AD7EF
|
I need a few testers.
K7LBH
QTH: Central Oregon
Vara (licensed)
80 - 3588.500 KHz (center)
40 - 7102.500 KHz (center)
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Does anyone have VARA HF setup with an Icom 7600?
If yes, would you mind sharing your settings for the radio and VARA?
Thanks
|
Greetings All, Quick question I have the DRA-25 to HF rig via Signal link or not.?? Want to use it with my FT-100-D Yaesu HF rig.??? I already have the signal link plugged into that digital plug in back of FT-100 but was thinking¡.. Could I just run the outputs of the DRA-25 input & outputs into the BACK of the Signal Link since it has an aux conn etc¡. I can always run a separate cable w/connector which I have to FT100 from the DRA-25 but do I really need to¡. Just brainstorming¡ Any thoughts on this .?? I can just have both plugged into separate USB ports on my computer and go FT8/¡MT65 digital with another program or go over to VARA HF/winlink etc¡. with DRA-25 or not???? Just trying to avoid pulling out FT100 and changing plugs everytime I want to use DRA-25 to make it more convenient.? Was about to research it but wanted any opinion on piggybacking it into Signal Link if possible... or just bypass Signal Link and just use DRA-25 for everything digital FT-8¡, winlink, Vara HF etc.? See attached back of Signal Link Regards, Rich NJ6F Santee, CA ? ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Steven, KC3DSO
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 1:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [VARA-MODEM] DRA-30 Audio card ? Hello Everyone,
I am seriously contemplating picking up a DRA-30 for my VFM node and one for one of my Go Kits. Both both run Kenwood TM-D710GA's flawlessly. Currently I have a Signalink being used as the VFM audio card plugged into?
the rear DATA jack of the D710G on Band B. Band A runs a 9600 OTA AX25 Packet node.?
I know I will need DIN-6 (DB9 to 6DIN) connector they make but aside from this cable and the 30 itself, do I need any other hardware? I noticed they also sell a DB9-FEM RJ45 adapter as well. I think they would allow the DRA-30
to work with my HT as I have a Cable for my D72 (K1 to MALE RJ-45 for the Signalink).?
Thanks!
Steven
KC3DSO
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Hello Everyone,
I am seriously contemplating picking up a DRA-30 for my VFM node and one for one of my Go Kits. Both both run Kenwood TM-D710GA's flawlessly. Currently I have a Signalink being used as the VFM audio card plugged into?
the rear DATA jack of the D710G on Band B. Band A runs a 9600 OTA AX25 Packet node.?
I know I will need DIN-6 (DB9 to 6DIN) connector they make but aside from this cable and the 30 itself, do I need any other hardware? I noticed they also sell a DB9-FEM RJ45 adapter as well. I think they would allow the DRA-30
to work with my HT as I have a Cable for my D72 (K1 to MALE RJ-45 for the Signalink).?
Thanks!
Steven
KC3DSO
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Re: Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA
Truth in Lending.. I run LinBPQ and on a Windows Laptop I run WINMORCONTROL.EXE and all my sound modes under Win 10. Etherneted to my Linux Box running LinBPQ.
Ill do some testing and fire up my VARA FM on same WIN10 PC.
?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 5:14 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
I do not at this time run VARA FM.. But I can I have a Signalink setting next to my extra 2 Meter rig.. Ill do some testing¡
?
My Earlier email was based on VARA HF..
?
?
Interesting I have never had my VARA HF or FM setup. Respond to another station while operating any other mode. I'm off work this week end will do some testing.? But as busy as things are surely i would have seen this... i heard this claim.
But never seen it ..?
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
-------- Original message --------
Date: 5/16/20 2:51 AM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
OK,
But BPQ does not control VARA Transmit. BPQ sends data to the VARA FM Modem running on a Windows PC. The Windows PC decides when to transmit.
For example, you could be connected to your BPQ node using AX25 at 1200 bps.
Then I decided to test my connection to your VARA FM modem with the Auto Tune feature in VARA FM.
The VARA modem will not ask BPQ if it may transmit. It will respond to the VARA FM user.
So I don't think INTERLOCK is 100% effective.
?
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 11:32 PM Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA via
<jerome.kutche=[email protected]> wrote:
In BPQ you would have 2 ports¡ Similar to these below. Just note these are mine on HF¡ But I can help
you adjust for two VHF sound ports.. Note both ports has an interlock comment¡ INTERLOCK=6 This prevent any outgoing connect attempts while the other port is attempting a connect or is connected..
So aother words.. You have a VHF Packet using uz7ho and another port running VARA say on a Signal Link
it would be either or. But at any given moment either would be available.. to a User..
?
;
PORT
PORTNUM=5
ID=Skipnet RPR/HF 706MKIIG;(RPR and HF Packet) ;COM30
TYPE=EXTERNAL
?COMPORT=/dev/TrackerN40
SPEED=38400
DLLNAME=SCSTRACKER.DLL
INTERLOCK=6
CONFIG
? ;APPL BBS
RIGCONTROL
/dev/706-RC 19200 ICOM IC706 58?
7,7.1010,usb,F1,r1,w1
7,7.1030,usb,F1,r1,w1
7,7.1035,lsb,F1,h1,w1
****
; WL2KREPORT PUBLIC,
, 80, K9BBS, EM68SR, 00-23,? 7104500, ROBUST, 50, 35, 3
WL2KREPORT PUBLIC,
, 80, K9BBS, EM68SR, 00-23,? 7102500, ROBUST, 50, 35, 3
WL2KREPORT PUBLIC,
, 80, K9BBS, EM68SR, 00-23,? 7102500, WINMOR500, 50, 35, 3
WL2KREPORT PUBLIC,
, 80, K9BBS, EM68SR, 00-23,? 7102500, ARDOP500, 50, 35, 3
## WL2KREPORT PUBLIC,
, 80, K9BBS, EM68SR, 00-23,? 7102500, VARA, 50, 35, 3
#
? %B 300
? %F 1700
? O 4????????????? ???????? ; MAXFRAME
? F 190??? ???????????? ?? ; FRACK
? T 8 ?????????????????????????????????????? ; TX Delay
? DEFAULT HPACKET???? ?? ; Default mode is RP
? USEAPPLCALLS????? ????????? ; Accept connects to all APPLCALLS
? %L 1500????? ??????????????????????? ; Centre Freq for Normal Packet (Default is 1500)
? @I 64?????????????????????????????????? ;Paclen = 60
? %T 1????????? ?????????? :TX Autotracking 1 = on
? %N 10
ENDPORT
;
PORT
PORTNUM=7??????????????????? ; WINMOR port Tracker Pair
ID=Skipnet WINMOR 706MKIIG 7.101U
TYPE=EXTERNAL
PROTOCOL=WINMOR
DLLNAME=WINMOR.DLL
INTERLOCK=6
QUALITY=0
?
CONFIG??????????????????????????????????????????????? ; Winmor config
ADDR 192.168.1.14 18500 PATH REMOTE:C:\WINMORII\WINMOR TNC.EXE
;CAPTURE USB AUDIO CODEC
;PLAYBACK USB AUDIO CODEC
CWID TRUE
DEBUGLOG True
BW 500
DRIVELEVEL 100
MODE AUTO
ROBUST False
SHOW True
BUSYLOCK False
BUSYHOLD 5????????????
BUSYWAIT 12?
ENDPORT
From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA via
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 2:16 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
Ok¡ You want to do Packet and VARA FM.
Use a signalink or any soundcard modem, Run VARA FM and UZ7HO Soundmodem software ¡ More to follow
?
From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Randy Neals
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 1:34 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
Jerome,
Could you please describe how you do that so that a user on AX25 and VARA FM on the same radio don't?interference with each other?
I'm also interested in how you make BPQ run VARA FM.
?
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 10:00 PM Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA via
<jerome.kutche=[email protected]> wrote:
You can do it with BPQ32 ¡.?? I run Packet, Pactor, VARA, WINMOR, ARDOP etc all one one radio..?
?
From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Randy Neals
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 12:11 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
Replying to your questions:
?- Is it possible for a VHF or UHF gateway station to support combined packet and VARA FM operation on the same radio channel, with one radio?
W3RWN> Yes, but the modems do not know each other exist on the same radio channel, so the equivalent of "doubling" will occur if users or the regular?broadcast of an ax25 beacon occurs.
?- Can a VHF or UHF gateway station set up for VARA FM 'wide' Winlink operation also accept connections from VARA FM 'narrow' clients?
W3RWN> Yes, we operate our gateways in WIDE mode with flat TX/RX audio. Narrow mode clients regularly connect.
Suggestions:
1. When convincing users to switch to VARA FM, don't get hung up on the $69 license fee for higher level use.
It's been our experience?that even Level 1 on VARA (ie: Unlicensed) works better than 1200bps AX25.
2. VARA FM has a more robust modem and works better in low signal and multipath?environments.
3. Don't put Narrow mode gateways on the air. Put Wide nodes on the air, and use glat?TX/RX audio (ie: 9600 mode on your japanese amateur radio)
Once some of your users report speeds such as 25,200bps, you will see a rush of users then also wanting higher speed and wide mode.
4. Sell your Signalink. Move to a Masters Communications DRA Board or Repeater Builder RIM Lite soundcard interface.
?
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:43 PM Mark Davis <markad7ef@...> wrote:
Our local ARES organization currently has a VHF Winlink gateway system set up for 1200 baud packet operation. I am investigating how we can have this gateway station also host VARA
FM connections.?
I have a couple of questions:
?- Is it possible for a VHF or UHF gateway station to support combined packet and VARA FM operation on the same radio channel, with one radio?
?- Can a VHF or UHF gateway station set up for VARA FM 'wide' Winlink operation also accept connections from VARA FM 'narrow' clients?
Separately, if I properly configure my station for P2P operation with VARA FM 'wide' capability, will it respond to connection requests from VARA FM 'narrow' peers?
Thank you for any help you can provide.
Mark Davis - AD7EF
|
Re: Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA
I do not at this time run VARA FM.. But I can I have a Signalink setting next to my extra 2 Meter rig.. Ill do some testing¡
?
My Earlier email was based on VARA HF..
?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Jerome Kutche
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 4:05 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
Interesting I have never had my VARA HF or FM setup. Respond to another station while operating any other mode. I'm off work this week end will do some testing.? But as busy as things are surely i would have seen this... i heard this claim.
But never seen it ..?
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
-------- Original message --------
Date: 5/16/20 2:51 AM (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
OK,
But BPQ does not control VARA Transmit. BPQ sends data to the VARA FM Modem running on a Windows PC. The Windows PC decides when to transmit.
For example, you could be connected to your BPQ node using AX25 at 1200 bps.
Then I decided to test my connection to your VARA FM modem with the Auto Tune feature in VARA FM.
The VARA modem will not ask BPQ if it may transmit. It will respond to the VARA FM user.
So I don't think INTERLOCK is 100% effective.
?
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 11:32 PM Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA via
<jerome.kutche=[email protected]> wrote:
In BPQ you would have 2 ports¡ Similar to these below. Just note these are mine on HF¡ But I can help
you adjust for two VHF sound ports.. Note both ports has an interlock comment¡ INTERLOCK=6 This prevent any outgoing connect attempts while the other port is attempting a connect or is connected..
So aother words.. You have a VHF Packet using uz7ho and another port running VARA say on a Signal Link
it would be either or. But at any given moment either would be available.. to a User..
?
;
PORT
PORTNUM=5
ID=Skipnet RPR/HF 706MKIIG;(RPR and HF Packet) ;COM30
TYPE=EXTERNAL
?COMPORT=/dev/TrackerN40
SPEED=38400
DLLNAME=SCSTRACKER.DLL
INTERLOCK=6
CONFIG
? ;APPL BBS
RIGCONTROL
/dev/706-RC 19200 ICOM IC706 58?
7,7.1010,usb,F1,r1,w1
7,7.1030,usb,F1,r1,w1
7,7.1035,lsb,F1,h1,w1
****
; WL2KREPORT PUBLIC,
, 80, K9BBS, EM68SR, 00-23,? 7104500, ROBUST, 50, 35, 3
WL2KREPORT PUBLIC,
, 80, K9BBS, EM68SR, 00-23,? 7102500, ROBUST, 50, 35, 3
WL2KREPORT PUBLIC,
, 80, K9BBS, EM68SR, 00-23,? 7102500, WINMOR500, 50, 35, 3
WL2KREPORT PUBLIC,
, 80, K9BBS, EM68SR, 00-23,? 7102500, ARDOP500, 50, 35, 3
## WL2KREPORT PUBLIC,
, 80, K9BBS, EM68SR, 00-23,? 7102500, VARA, 50, 35, 3
#
? %B 300
? %F 1700
? O 4????????????? ???????? ; MAXFRAME
? F 190??? ???????????? ?? ; FRACK
? T 8 ?????????????????????????????????????? ; TX Delay
? DEFAULT HPACKET???? ?? ; Default mode is RP
? USEAPPLCALLS????? ????????? ; Accept connects to all APPLCALLS
? %L 1500????? ??????????????????????? ; Centre Freq for Normal Packet (Default is 1500)
? @I 64?????????????????????????????????? ;Paclen = 60
? %T 1????????? ?????????? :TX Autotracking 1 = on
? %N 10
ENDPORT
;
PORT
PORTNUM=7??????????????????? ; WINMOR port Tracker Pair
ID=Skipnet WINMOR 706MKIIG 7.101U
TYPE=EXTERNAL
PROTOCOL=WINMOR
DLLNAME=WINMOR.DLL
INTERLOCK=6
QUALITY=0
?
CONFIG??????????????????????????????????????????????? ; Winmor config
ADDR 192.168.1.14 18500 PATH REMOTE:C:\WINMORII\WINMOR TNC.EXE
;CAPTURE USB AUDIO CODEC
;PLAYBACK USB AUDIO CODEC
CWID TRUE
DEBUGLOG True
BW 500
DRIVELEVEL 100
MODE AUTO
ROBUST False
SHOW True
BUSYLOCK False
BUSYHOLD 5????????????
BUSYWAIT 12?
ENDPORT
From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA via
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 2:16 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
Ok¡ You want to do Packet and VARA FM.
Use a signalink or any soundcard modem, Run VARA FM and UZ7HO Soundmodem software ¡ More to follow
?
From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Randy Neals
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 1:34 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
Jerome,
Could you please describe how you do that so that a user on AX25 and VARA FM on the same radio don't?interference with each other?
I'm also interested in how you make BPQ run VARA FM.
?
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 10:00 PM Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA via
<jerome.kutche=[email protected]> wrote:
You can do it with BPQ32 ¡.?? I run Packet, Pactor, VARA, WINMOR, ARDOP etc all one one radio..?
?
From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Randy Neals
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 12:11 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
Replying to your questions:
?- Is it possible for a VHF or UHF gateway station to support combined packet and VARA FM operation on the same radio channel, with one radio?
W3RWN> Yes, but the modems do not know each other exist on the same radio channel, so the equivalent of "doubling" will occur if users or the regular?broadcast of an ax25 beacon occurs.
?- Can a VHF or UHF gateway station set up for VARA FM 'wide' Winlink operation also accept connections from VARA FM 'narrow' clients?
W3RWN> Yes, we operate our gateways in WIDE mode with flat TX/RX audio. Narrow mode clients regularly connect.
Suggestions:
1. When convincing users to switch to VARA FM, don't get hung up on the $69 license fee for higher level use.
It's been our experience?that even Level 1 on VARA (ie: Unlicensed) works better than 1200bps AX25.
2. VARA FM has a more robust modem and works better in low signal and multipath?environments.
3. Don't put Narrow mode gateways on the air. Put Wide nodes on the air, and use glat?TX/RX audio (ie: 9600 mode on your japanese amateur radio)
Once some of your users report speeds such as 25,200bps, you will see a rush of users then also wanting higher speed and wide mode.
4. Sell your Signalink. Move to a Masters Communications DRA Board or Repeater Builder RIM Lite soundcard interface.
?
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:43 PM Mark Davis <markad7ef@...> wrote:
Our local ARES organization currently has a VHF Winlink gateway system set up for 1200 baud packet operation. I am investigating how we can have this gateway station also host VARA
FM connections.?
I have a couple of questions:
?- Is it possible for a VHF or UHF gateway station to support combined packet and VARA FM operation on the same radio channel, with one radio?
?- Can a VHF or UHF gateway station set up for VARA FM 'wide' Winlink operation also accept connections from VARA FM 'narrow' clients?
Separately, if I properly configure my station for P2P operation with VARA FM 'wide' capability, will it respond to connection requests from VARA FM 'narrow' peers?
Thank you for any help you can provide.
Mark Davis - AD7EF
|
Re: Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
Interesting I have never had my VARA HF or FM setup. Respond to another station while operating any other mode. I'm off work this week end will do some testing.? But as busy as things are surely i would have seen this... i heard this claim. But never seen it ..?
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
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-------- Original message -------- From: Randy Neals <randy@...> Date: 5/16/20 2:51 AM (GMT-05:00) Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
OK, But BPQ does not control VARA Transmit. BPQ sends data to the VARA FM Modem running on a Windows PC. The Windows PC decides when to transmit. For example, you could be connected to your BPQ node using AX25 at 1200 bps.
Then I decided to test my connection to your VARA FM modem with the Auto Tune feature in VARA FM.
The VARA modem will not ask BPQ if it may transmit. It will respond to the VARA FM user. So I don't think INTERLOCK is 100% effective. On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 11:32 PM Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA via <jerome.kutche= [email protected]> wrote:
In BPQ you would have 2 ports¡ Similar to these below. Just note these are mine on HF¡ But I can help you adjust for two VHF sound ports.. Note both ports has
an interlock comment¡ INTERLOCK=6 This prevent any outgoing connect attempts while the other port is attempting a connect or is connected..
So aother words.. You have a VHF Packet using uz7ho and another port running VARA say on a Signal Link it would be either or. But at any given moment either would
be available.. to a User..
?
;
PORT
PORTNUM=5
ID=Skipnet RPR/HF 706MKIIG;(RPR and HF Packet) ;COM30
TYPE=EXTERNAL
?COMPORT=/dev/TrackerN40
SPEED=38400
DLLNAME=SCSTRACKER.DLL
INTERLOCK=6
CONFIG
? ;APPL BBS
RIGCONTROL
/dev/706-RC 19200 ICOM IC706 58?
7,7.1010,usb,F1,r1,w1
7,7.1030,usb,F1,r1,w1
7,7.1035,lsb,F1,h1,w1
****
; WL2KREPORT PUBLIC, , 80, K9BBS, EM68SR, 00-23,? 7104500, ROBUST, 50, 35, 3
WL2KREPORT PUBLIC, , 80, K9BBS, EM68SR, 00-23,? 7102500, ROBUST, 50, 35, 3
WL2KREPORT PUBLIC, , 80, K9BBS, EM68SR, 00-23,? 7102500, WINMOR500, 50, 35, 3
WL2KREPORT PUBLIC, , 80, K9BBS, EM68SR, 00-23,? 7102500, ARDOP500, 50, 35, 3
## WL2KREPORT PUBLIC, , 80, K9BBS, EM68SR, 00-23,? 7102500, VARA, 50, 35, 3
#
? %B 300
? %F 1700
? O 4????????????? ???????? ; MAXFRAME
? F 190??? ???????????? ?? ; FRACK
? T 8 ?????????????????????????????????????? ; TX Delay
? DEFAULT HPACKET???? ?? ; Default mode is RP
? USEAPPLCALLS????? ????????? ; Accept connects to all APPLCALLS
? %L 1500????? ??????????????????????? ; Centre Freq for Normal Packet (Default is 1500)
? @I 64?????????????????????????????????? ;Paclen = 60
? %T 1????????? ?????????? :TX Autotracking 1 = on
? %N 10
ENDPORT
;
PORT
PORTNUM=7??????????????????? ; WINMOR port Tracker Pair
ID=Skipnet WINMOR 706MKIIG 7.101U
TYPE=EXTERNAL
PROTOCOL=WINMOR
DLLNAME=WINMOR.DLL
INTERLOCK=6
QUALITY=0
?
CONFIG??????????????????????????????????????????????? ; Winmor config
ADDR 192.168.1.14 18500 PATH REMOTE:C:\WINMORII\WINMOR TNC.EXE
;CAPTURE USB AUDIO CODEC
;PLAYBACK USB AUDIO CODEC
CWID TRUE
DEBUGLOG True
BW 500
DRIVELEVEL 100
MODE AUTO
ROBUST False
SHOW True
BUSYLOCK False
BUSYHOLD 5????????????
BUSYWAIT 12?
ENDPORT
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA via
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 2:16 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
Ok¡ You want to do Packet and VARA FM.
Use a signalink or any soundcard modem, Run VARA FM and UZ7HO Soundmodem software ¡ More to follow
?
From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Randy Neals
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 1:34 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
Jerome,
Could you please describe how you do that so that a user on AX25 and VARA FM on the same radio don't?interference with each other?
I'm also interested in how you make BPQ run VARA FM.
?
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 10:00 PM Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA via
<jerome.kutche=[email protected]> wrote:
You can do it with BPQ32 ¡.?? I run Packet, Pactor, VARA, WINMOR, ARDOP etc all one one radio..?
?
From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Randy Neals
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 12:11 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
Replying to your questions:
?- Is it possible for a VHF or UHF gateway station to support combined packet and VARA FM operation on the same radio channel, with one radio?
W3RWN> Yes, but the modems do not know each other exist on the same radio channel, so the equivalent of "doubling" will occur if users or the regular?broadcast of an ax25 beacon occurs.
?- Can a VHF or UHF gateway station set up for VARA FM 'wide' Winlink operation also accept connections from VARA FM 'narrow' clients?
W3RWN> Yes, we operate our gateways in WIDE mode with flat TX/RX audio. Narrow mode clients regularly connect.
Suggestions:
1. When convincing users to switch to VARA FM, don't get hung up on the $69 license fee for higher level use.
It's been our experience?that even Level 1 on VARA (ie: Unlicensed) works better than 1200bps AX25.
2. VARA FM has a more robust modem and works better in low signal and multipath?environments.
3. Don't put Narrow mode gateways on the air. Put Wide nodes on the air, and use glat?TX/RX audio (ie: 9600 mode on your japanese amateur radio)
Once some of your users report speeds such as 25,200bps, you will see a rush of users then also wanting higher speed and wide mode.
4. Sell your Signalink. Move to a Masters Communications DRA Board or Repeater Builder RIM Lite soundcard interface.
?
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:43 PM Mark Davis <markad7ef@...> wrote:
Our local ARES organization currently has a VHF Winlink gateway system set up for 1200 baud packet operation. I am investigating how we can have this gateway station also host VARA
FM connections.?
I have a couple of questions:
?- Is it possible for a VHF or UHF gateway station to support combined packet and VARA FM operation on the same radio channel, with one radio?
?- Can a VHF or UHF gateway station set up for VARA FM 'wide' Winlink operation also accept connections from VARA FM 'narrow' clients?
Separately, if I properly configure my station for P2P operation with VARA FM 'wide' capability, will it respond to connection requests from VARA FM 'narrow' peers?
Thank you for any help you can provide.
Mark Davis - AD7EF
|
Re: Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
OK, But BPQ does not control VARA Transmit. BPQ sends data to the VARA FM Modem running on a Windows PC. The Windows PC decides when to transmit. For example, you could be connected to your BPQ node using AX25 at 1200 bps.
Then I decided to test my connection to your VARA FM modem with the Auto Tune feature in VARA FM.
The VARA modem will not ask BPQ if it may transmit. It will respond to the VARA FM user. So I don't think INTERLOCK is 100% effective. On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 11:32 PM Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA via <jerome.kutche= [email protected]> wrote:
In BPQ you would have 2 ports¡ Similar to these below. Just note these are mine on HF¡ But I can help you adjust for two VHF sound ports.. Note both ports has
an interlock comment¡ INTERLOCK=6 This prevent any outgoing connect attempts while the other port is attempting a connect or is connected..
So aother words.. You have a VHF Packet using uz7ho and another port running VARA say on a Signal Link it would be either or. But at any given moment either would
be available.. to a User..
?
;
PORT
PORTNUM=5
ID=Skipnet RPR/HF 706MKIIG;(RPR and HF Packet) ;COM30
TYPE=EXTERNAL
?COMPORT=/dev/TrackerN40
SPEED=38400
DLLNAME=SCSTRACKER.DLL
INTERLOCK=6
CONFIG
? ;APPL BBS
RIGCONTROL
/dev/706-RC 19200 ICOM IC706 58?
7,7.1010,usb,F1,r1,w1
7,7.1030,usb,F1,r1,w1
7,7.1035,lsb,F1,h1,w1
****
; WL2KREPORT PUBLIC, , 80, K9BBS, EM68SR, 00-23,? 7104500, ROBUST, 50, 35, 3
WL2KREPORT PUBLIC, , 80, K9BBS, EM68SR, 00-23,? 7102500, ROBUST, 50, 35, 3
WL2KREPORT PUBLIC, , 80, K9BBS, EM68SR, 00-23,? 7102500, WINMOR500, 50, 35, 3
WL2KREPORT PUBLIC, , 80, K9BBS, EM68SR, 00-23,? 7102500, ARDOP500, 50, 35, 3
## WL2KREPORT PUBLIC, , 80, K9BBS, EM68SR, 00-23,? 7102500, VARA, 50, 35, 3
#
? %B 300
? %F 1700
? O 4????????????? ???????? ; MAXFRAME
? F 190??? ???????????? ?? ; FRACK
? T 8 ?????????????????????????????????????? ; TX Delay
? DEFAULT HPACKET???? ?? ; Default mode is RP
? USEAPPLCALLS????? ????????? ; Accept connects to all APPLCALLS
? %L 1500????? ??????????????????????? ; Centre Freq for Normal Packet (Default is 1500)
? @I 64?????????????????????????????????? ;Paclen = 60
? %T 1????????? ?????????? :TX Autotracking 1 = on
? %N 10
ENDPORT
;
PORT
PORTNUM=7??????????????????? ; WINMOR port Tracker Pair
ID=Skipnet WINMOR 706MKIIG 7.101U
TYPE=EXTERNAL
PROTOCOL=WINMOR
DLLNAME=WINMOR.DLL
INTERLOCK=6
QUALITY=0
?
CONFIG??????????????????????????????????????????????? ; Winmor config
ADDR 192.168.1.14 18500 PATH REMOTE:C:\WINMORII\WINMOR TNC.EXE
;CAPTURE USB AUDIO CODEC
;PLAYBACK USB AUDIO CODEC
CWID TRUE
DEBUGLOG True
BW 500
DRIVELEVEL 100
MODE AUTO
ROBUST False
SHOW True
BUSYLOCK False
BUSYHOLD 5????????????
BUSYWAIT 12?
ENDPORT
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA via
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 2:16 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
Ok¡ You want to do Packet and VARA FM.
Use a signalink or any soundcard modem, Run VARA FM and UZ7HO Soundmodem software ¡ More to follow
?
From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Randy Neals
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 1:34 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
Jerome,
Could you please describe how you do that so that a user on AX25 and VARA FM on the same radio don't?interference with each other?
I'm also interested in how you make BPQ run VARA FM.
?
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 10:00 PM Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA via
<jerome.kutche=[email protected]> wrote:
You can do it with BPQ32 ¡.?? I run Packet, Pactor, VARA, WINMOR, ARDOP etc all one one radio..?
?
From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Randy Neals
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 12:11 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
Replying to your questions:
?- Is it possible for a VHF or UHF gateway station to support combined packet and VARA FM operation on the same radio channel, with one radio?
W3RWN> Yes, but the modems do not know each other exist on the same radio channel, so the equivalent of "doubling" will occur if users or the regular?broadcast of an ax25 beacon occurs.
?- Can a VHF or UHF gateway station set up for VARA FM 'wide' Winlink operation also accept connections from VARA FM 'narrow' clients?
W3RWN> Yes, we operate our gateways in WIDE mode with flat TX/RX audio. Narrow mode clients regularly connect.
Suggestions:
1. When convincing users to switch to VARA FM, don't get hung up on the $69 license fee for higher level use.
It's been our experience?that even Level 1 on VARA (ie: Unlicensed) works better than 1200bps AX25.
2. VARA FM has a more robust modem and works better in low signal and multipath?environments.
3. Don't put Narrow mode gateways on the air. Put Wide nodes on the air, and use glat?TX/RX audio (ie: 9600 mode on your japanese amateur radio)
Once some of your users report speeds such as 25,200bps, you will see a rush of users then also wanting higher speed and wide mode.
4. Sell your Signalink. Move to a Masters Communications DRA Board or Repeater Builder RIM Lite soundcard interface.
?
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:43 PM Mark Davis <markad7ef@...> wrote:
Our local ARES organization currently has a VHF Winlink gateway system set up for 1200 baud packet operation. I am investigating how we can have this gateway station also host VARA
FM connections.?
I have a couple of questions:
?- Is it possible for a VHF or UHF gateway station to support combined packet and VARA FM operation on the same radio channel, with one radio?
?- Can a VHF or UHF gateway station set up for VARA FM 'wide' Winlink operation also accept connections from VARA FM 'narrow' clients?
Separately, if I properly configure my station for P2P operation with VARA FM 'wide' capability, will it respond to connection requests from VARA FM 'narrow' peers?
Thank you for any help you can provide.
Mark Davis - AD7EF
|
Re: Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA
I have other config files at home where I have had VARA FM and UZ7HO running I will gather those up? on Saturday..
?
Anyway you can run both on one radio¡ But one at a time all controlled by BPQ. Anagin it knows which mode Is trying to connect and connects when asked. Or if
outgoing you use the ATTACH (port#) and then c callsign¡ 73
?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 2:16 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
Ok¡ You want to do Packet and VARA FM.
Use a signalink or any soundcard modem, Run VARA FM and UZ7HO Soundmodem software ¡ More to follow
?
From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Randy Neals
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 1:34 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
Jerome,
Could you please describe how you do that so that a user on AX25 and VARA FM on the same radio don't?interference with each other?
I'm also interested in how you make BPQ run VARA FM.
?
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 10:00 PM Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA via
<jerome.kutche=[email protected]> wrote:
You can do it with BPQ32 ¡.?? I run Packet, Pactor, VARA, WINMOR, ARDOP etc all one one radio..?
?
From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Randy Neals
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 12:11 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
Replying to your questions:
?- Is it possible for a VHF or UHF gateway station to support combined packet and VARA FM operation on the same radio channel, with one radio?
W3RWN> Yes, but the modems do not know each other exist on the same radio channel, so the equivalent of "doubling" will occur if users or the regular?broadcast of an ax25 beacon occurs.
?- Can a VHF or UHF gateway station set up for VARA FM 'wide' Winlink operation also accept connections from VARA FM 'narrow' clients?
W3RWN> Yes, we operate our gateways in WIDE mode with flat TX/RX audio. Narrow mode clients regularly connect.
Suggestions:
1. When convincing users to switch to VARA FM, don't get hung up on the $69 license fee for higher level use.
It's been our experience?that even Level 1 on VARA (ie: Unlicensed) works better than 1200bps AX25.
2. VARA FM has a more robust modem and works better in low signal and multipath?environments.
3. Don't put Narrow mode gateways on the air. Put Wide nodes on the air, and use glat?TX/RX audio (ie: 9600 mode on your japanese amateur radio)
Once some of your users report speeds such as 25,200bps, you will see a rush of users then also wanting higher speed and wide mode.
4. Sell your Signalink. Move to a Masters Communications DRA Board or Repeater Builder RIM Lite soundcard interface.
?
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:43 PM Mark Davis <markad7ef@...> wrote:
Our local ARES organization currently has a VHF Winlink gateway system set up for 1200 baud packet operation. I am investigating how we can have this gateway station also host VARA
FM connections.?
I have a couple of questions:
?- Is it possible for a VHF or UHF gateway station to support combined packet and VARA FM operation on the same radio channel, with one radio?
?- Can a VHF or UHF gateway station set up for VARA FM 'wide' Winlink operation also accept connections from VARA FM 'narrow' clients?
Separately, if I properly configure my station for P2P operation with VARA FM 'wide' capability, will it respond to connection requests from VARA FM 'narrow' peers?
Thank you for any help you can provide.
Mark Davis - AD7EF
|
Re: Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA
In BPQ you would have 2 ports¡ Similar to these below. Just note these are mine on HF¡ But I can help you adjust for two VHF sound ports.. Note both ports has
an interlock comment¡ INTERLOCK=6 This prevent any outgoing connect attempts while the other port is attempting a connect or is connected..
So aother words.. You have a VHF Packet using uz7ho and another port running VARA say on a Signal Link it would be either or. But at any given moment either would
be available.. to a User..
?
;
PORT
PORTNUM=5
ID=Skipnet RPR/HF 706MKIIG;(RPR and HF Packet) ;COM30
TYPE=EXTERNAL
?COMPORT=/dev/TrackerN40
SPEED=38400
DLLNAME=SCSTRACKER.DLL
INTERLOCK=6
CONFIG
? ;APPL BBS
RIGCONTROL
/dev/706-RC 19200 ICOM IC706 58?
7,7.1010,usb,F1,r1,w1
7,7.1030,usb,F1,r1,w1
7,7.1035,lsb,F1,h1,w1
****
; WL2KREPORT PUBLIC, api.winlink.org, 80, K9BBS, EM68SR, 00-23,? 7104500, ROBUST, 50, 35, 3
WL2KREPORT PUBLIC, api.winlink.org, 80, K9BBS, EM68SR, 00-23,? 7102500, ROBUST, 50, 35, 3
WL2KREPORT PUBLIC, api.winlink.org, 80, K9BBS, EM68SR, 00-23,? 7102500, WINMOR500, 50, 35, 3
WL2KREPORT PUBLIC, api.winlink.org, 80, K9BBS, EM68SR, 00-23,? 7102500, ARDOP500, 50, 35, 3
## WL2KREPORT PUBLIC, api.winlink.org, 80, K9BBS, EM68SR, 00-23,? 7102500, VARA, 50, 35, 3
#
? %B 300
? %F 1700
? O 4????????????? ???????? ; MAXFRAME
? F 190??? ???????????? ?? ; FRACK
? T 8 ?????????????????????????????????????? ; TX Delay
? DEFAULT HPACKET???? ?? ; Default mode is RP
? USEAPPLCALLS????? ????????? ; Accept connects to all APPLCALLS
? %L 1500????? ??????????????????????? ; Centre Freq for Normal Packet (Default is 1500)
? @I 64?????????????????????????????????? ;Paclen = 60
? %T 1????????? ?????????? :TX Autotracking 1 = on
? %N 10
ENDPORT
;
PORT
PORTNUM=7??????????????????? ; WINMOR port Tracker Pair
ID=Skipnet WINMOR 706MKIIG 7.101U
TYPE=EXTERNAL
PROTOCOL=WINMOR
DLLNAME=WINMOR.DLL
INTERLOCK=6
QUALITY=0
?
CONFIG??????????????????????????????????????????????? ; Winmor config
ADDR 192.168.1.14 18500 PATH REMOTE:C:\WINMORII\WINMOR TNC.EXE
;CAPTURE USB AUDIO CODEC
;PLAYBACK USB AUDIO CODEC
CWID TRUE
DEBUGLOG True
BW 500
DRIVELEVEL 100
MODE AUTO
ROBUST False
SHOW True
BUSYLOCK False
BUSYHOLD 5????????????
BUSYWAIT 12?
ENDPORT
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 2:16 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
Ok¡ You want to do Packet and VARA FM.
Use a signalink or any soundcard modem, Run VARA FM and UZ7HO Soundmodem software ¡ More to follow
?
From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Randy Neals
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 1:34 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
Jerome,
Could you please describe how you do that so that a user on AX25 and VARA FM on the same radio don't?interference with each other?
I'm also interested in how you make BPQ run VARA FM.
?
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 10:00 PM Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA via
<jerome.kutche=[email protected]> wrote:
You can do it with BPQ32 ¡.?? I run Packet, Pactor, VARA, WINMOR, ARDOP etc all one one radio..?
?
From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Randy Neals
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 12:11 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
Replying to your questions:
?- Is it possible for a VHF or UHF gateway station to support combined packet and VARA FM operation on the same radio channel, with one radio?
W3RWN> Yes, but the modems do not know each other exist on the same radio channel, so the equivalent of "doubling" will occur if users or the regular?broadcast of an ax25 beacon occurs.
?- Can a VHF or UHF gateway station set up for VARA FM 'wide' Winlink operation also accept connections from VARA FM 'narrow' clients?
W3RWN> Yes, we operate our gateways in WIDE mode with flat TX/RX audio. Narrow mode clients regularly connect.
Suggestions:
1. When convincing users to switch to VARA FM, don't get hung up on the $69 license fee for higher level use.
It's been our experience?that even Level 1 on VARA (ie: Unlicensed) works better than 1200bps AX25.
2. VARA FM has a more robust modem and works better in low signal and multipath?environments.
3. Don't put Narrow mode gateways on the air. Put Wide nodes on the air, and use glat?TX/RX audio (ie: 9600 mode on your japanese amateur radio)
Once some of your users report speeds such as 25,200bps, you will see a rush of users then also wanting higher speed and wide mode.
4. Sell your Signalink. Move to a Masters Communications DRA Board or Repeater Builder RIM Lite soundcard interface.
?
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:43 PM Mark Davis <markad7ef@...> wrote:
Our local ARES organization currently has a VHF Winlink gateway system set up for 1200 baud packet operation. I am investigating how we can have this gateway station also host VARA
FM connections.?
I have a couple of questions:
?- Is it possible for a VHF or UHF gateway station to support combined packet and VARA FM operation on the same radio channel, with one radio?
?- Can a VHF or UHF gateway station set up for VARA FM 'wide' Winlink operation also accept connections from VARA FM 'narrow' clients?
Separately, if I properly configure my station for P2P operation with VARA FM 'wide' capability, will it respond to connection requests from VARA FM 'narrow' peers?
Thank you for any help you can provide.
Mark Davis - AD7EF
|
Re: Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA
Ok¡ You want to do Packet and VARA FM.
Use a signalink or any soundcard modem, Run VARA FM and UZ7HO Soundmodem software ¡ More to follow
?
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Show quoted text
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Randy Neals
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 1:34 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
Jerome,
Could you please describe how you do that so that a user on AX25 and VARA FM on the same radio don't?interference with each other?
I'm also interested in how you make BPQ run VARA FM.
?
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 10:00 PM Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA via
<jerome.kutche=[email protected]> wrote:
You can do it with BPQ32 ¡.?? I run Packet, Pactor, VARA, WINMOR, ARDOP etc all one one radio..?
?
From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Randy Neals
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 12:11 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
Replying to your questions:
?- Is it possible for a VHF or UHF gateway station to support combined packet and VARA FM operation on the same radio channel, with one radio?
W3RWN> Yes, but the modems do not know each other exist on the same radio channel, so the equivalent of "doubling" will occur if users or the regular?broadcast of an ax25 beacon occurs.
?- Can a VHF or UHF gateway station set up for VARA FM 'wide' Winlink operation also accept connections from VARA FM 'narrow' clients?
W3RWN> Yes, we operate our gateways in WIDE mode with flat TX/RX audio. Narrow mode clients regularly connect.
Suggestions:
1. When convincing users to switch to VARA FM, don't get hung up on the $69 license fee for higher level use.
It's been our experience?that even Level 1 on VARA (ie: Unlicensed) works better than 1200bps AX25.
2. VARA FM has a more robust modem and works better in low signal and multipath?environments.
3. Don't put Narrow mode gateways on the air. Put Wide nodes on the air, and use glat?TX/RX audio (ie: 9600 mode on your japanese amateur radio)
Once some of your users report speeds such as 25,200bps, you will see a rush of users then also wanting higher speed and wide mode.
4. Sell your Signalink. Move to a Masters Communications DRA Board or Repeater Builder RIM Lite soundcard interface.
?
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:43 PM Mark Davis <markad7ef@...> wrote:
Our local ARES organization currently has a VHF Winlink gateway system set up for 1200 baud packet operation. I am investigating how we can have this gateway station also host VARA
FM connections.?
I have a couple of questions:
?- Is it possible for a VHF or UHF gateway station to support combined packet and VARA FM operation on the same radio channel, with one radio?
?- Can a VHF or UHF gateway station set up for VARA FM 'wide' Winlink operation also accept connections from VARA FM 'narrow' clients?
Separately, if I properly configure my station for P2P operation with VARA FM 'wide' capability, will it respond to connection requests from VARA FM 'narrow' peers?
Thank you for any help you can provide.
Mark Davis - AD7EF
|
Re: Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA
Let me work on that.. It easier to do then explain.. give me a few minutes.. 73
?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Randy Neals
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 1:34 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
Jerome,
Could you please describe how you do that so that a user on AX25 and VARA FM on the same radio don't?interference with each other?
I'm also interested in how you make BPQ run VARA FM.
?
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 10:00 PM Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA via
<jerome.kutche=[email protected]> wrote:
You can do it with BPQ32 ¡.?? I run Packet, Pactor, VARA, WINMOR, ARDOP etc all one one radio..?
?
From:
[email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Randy Neals
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 12:11 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
Replying to your questions:
?- Is it possible for a VHF or UHF gateway station to support combined packet and VARA FM operation on the same radio channel, with one radio?
W3RWN> Yes, but the modems do not know each other exist on the same radio channel, so the equivalent of "doubling" will occur if users or the regular?broadcast of an ax25 beacon occurs.
?- Can a VHF or UHF gateway station set up for VARA FM 'wide' Winlink operation also accept connections from VARA FM 'narrow' clients?
W3RWN> Yes, we operate our gateways in WIDE mode with flat TX/RX audio. Narrow mode clients regularly connect.
Suggestions:
1. When convincing users to switch to VARA FM, don't get hung up on the $69 license fee for higher level use.
It's been our experience?that even Level 1 on VARA (ie: Unlicensed) works better than 1200bps AX25.
2. VARA FM has a more robust modem and works better in low signal and multipath?environments.
3. Don't put Narrow mode gateways on the air. Put Wide nodes on the air, and use glat?TX/RX audio (ie: 9600 mode on your japanese amateur radio)
Once some of your users report speeds such as 25,200bps, you will see a rush of users then also wanting higher speed and wide mode.
4. Sell your Signalink. Move to a Masters Communications DRA Board or Repeater Builder RIM Lite soundcard interface.
?
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:43 PM Mark Davis <markad7ef@...> wrote:
Our local ARES organization currently has a VHF Winlink gateway system set up for 1200 baud packet operation. I am investigating how we can have this gateway station also host VARA
FM connections.?
I have a couple of questions:
?- Is it possible for a VHF or UHF gateway station to support combined packet and VARA FM operation on the same radio channel, with one radio?
?- Can a VHF or UHF gateway station set up for VARA FM 'wide' Winlink operation also accept connections from VARA FM 'narrow' clients?
Separately, if I properly configure my station for P2P operation with VARA FM 'wide' capability, will it respond to connection requests from VARA FM 'narrow' peers?
Thank you for any help you can provide.
Mark Davis - AD7EF
|
Re: Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
Jerome, Could you please describe how you do that so that a user on AX25 and VARA FM on the same radio don't?interference with each other? I'm also interested in how you make BPQ run VARA FM. On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 10:00 PM Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA via <jerome.kutche= [email protected]> wrote:
You can do it with BPQ32 ¡.?? I run Packet, Pactor, VARA, WINMOR, ARDOP etc all one one radio..?
?
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
On Behalf Of Randy Neals
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 12:11 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
?
Replying to your questions:
?- Is it possible for a VHF or UHF gateway station to support combined packet and VARA FM operation on the same radio channel, with one radio?
W3RWN> Yes, but the modems do not know each other exist on the same radio channel, so the equivalent of "doubling" will occur if users or the regular?broadcast of an ax25 beacon occurs.
?- Can a VHF or UHF gateway station set up for VARA FM 'wide' Winlink operation also accept connections from VARA FM 'narrow' clients?
W3RWN> Yes, we operate our gateways in WIDE mode with flat TX/RX audio. Narrow mode clients regularly connect.
Suggestions:
1. When convincing users to switch to VARA FM, don't get hung up on the $69 license fee for higher level use.
It's been our experience?that even Level 1 on VARA (ie: Unlicensed) works better than 1200bps AX25.
2. VARA FM has a more robust modem and works better in low signal and multipath?environments.
3. Don't put Narrow mode gateways on the air. Put Wide nodes on the air, and use glat?TX/RX audio (ie: 9600 mode on your japanese amateur radio)
Once some of your users report speeds such as 25,200bps, you will see a rush of users then also wanting higher speed and wide mode.
4. Sell your Signalink. Move to a Masters Communications DRA Board or Repeater Builder RIM Lite soundcard interface.
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On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:43 PM Mark Davis <markad7ef@...> wrote:
Our local ARES organization currently has a VHF Winlink gateway system set up for 1200 baud packet operation. I am investigating how we can have this gateway station also host VARA FM connections.?
I have a couple of questions:
?- Is it possible for a VHF or UHF gateway station to support combined packet and VARA FM operation on the same radio channel, with one radio?
?- Can a VHF or UHF gateway station set up for VARA FM 'wide' Winlink operation also accept connections from VARA FM 'narrow' clients?
Separately, if I properly configure my station for P2P operation with VARA FM 'wide' capability, will it respond to connection requests from VARA FM 'narrow' peers?
Thank you for any help you can provide.
Mark Davis - AD7EF
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Re: Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
Kutche, Jerome M (Mitchell) USA
You can do it with BPQ32 ¡.?? I run Packet, Pactor, VARA, WINMOR, ARDOP etc all one one radio..?
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Subject: Re: [VARA-MODEM] Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
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Replying to your questions:
?- Is it possible for a VHF or UHF gateway station to support combined packet and VARA FM operation on the same radio channel, with one radio?
W3RWN> Yes, but the modems do not know each other exist on the same radio channel, so the equivalent of "doubling" will occur if users or the regular?broadcast of an ax25 beacon occurs.
?- Can a VHF or UHF gateway station set up for VARA FM 'wide' Winlink operation also accept connections from VARA FM 'narrow' clients?
W3RWN> Yes, we operate our gateways in WIDE mode with flat TX/RX audio. Narrow mode clients regularly connect.
Suggestions:
1. When convincing users to switch to VARA FM, don't get hung up on the $69 license fee for higher level use.
It's been our experience?that even Level 1 on VARA (ie: Unlicensed) works better than 1200bps AX25.
2. VARA FM has a more robust modem and works better in low signal and multipath?environments.
3. Don't put Narrow mode gateways on the air. Put Wide nodes on the air, and use glat?TX/RX audio (ie: 9600 mode on your japanese amateur radio)
Once some of your users report speeds such as 25,200bps, you will see a rush of users then also wanting higher speed and wide mode.
4. Sell your Signalink. Move to a Masters Communications DRA Board or Repeater Builder RIM Lite soundcard interface.
?
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:43 PM Mark Davis <markad7ef@...> wrote:
Our local ARES organization currently has a VHF Winlink gateway system set up for 1200 baud packet operation. I am investigating how we can have this gateway station also host VARA FM connections.?
I have a couple of questions:
?- Is it possible for a VHF or UHF gateway station to support combined packet and VARA FM operation on the same radio channel, with one radio?
?- Can a VHF or UHF gateway station set up for VARA FM 'wide' Winlink operation also accept connections from VARA FM 'narrow' clients?
Separately, if I properly configure my station for P2P operation with VARA FM 'wide' capability, will it respond to connection requests from VARA FM 'narrow' peers?
Thank you for any help you can provide.
Mark Davis - AD7EF
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Re: Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
Replying to your questions: ?- Is it possible for a VHF or UHF gateway station to support combined packet and VARA FM operation on the same radio channel, with one radio? W3RWN> Yes, but the modems do not know each other exist on the same radio channel, so the equivalent of "doubling" will occur if users or the regular?broadcast of an ax25 beacon occurs. ?- Can a VHF or UHF gateway station set up for VARA FM 'wide' Winlink operation also accept connections from VARA FM 'narrow' clients? W3RWN> Yes, we operate our gateways in WIDE mode with flat TX/RX audio. Narrow mode clients regularly connect. Suggestions: 1. When convincing users to switch to VARA FM, don't get hung up on the $69 license fee for higher level use. It's been our experience?that even Level 1 on VARA (ie: Unlicensed) works better than 1200bps AX25. 2. VARA FM has a more robust modem and works better in low signal and multipath?environments. 3. Don't put Narrow mode gateways on the air. Put Wide nodes on the air, and use glat?TX/RX audio (ie: 9600 mode on your japanese amateur radio) Once some of your users report speeds such as 25,200bps, you will see a rush of users then also wanting higher speed and wide mode.
4. Sell your Signalink. Move to a Masters Communications DRA Board or Repeater Builder RIM Lite soundcard interface.
Randy, W3RWN
Burien, WA
On Fri, May 15, 2020 at 8:43 PM Mark Davis < markad7ef@...> wrote: Our local ARES organization currently has a VHF Winlink gateway system set up for 1200 baud packet operation. I am investigating how we can have this gateway station also host VARA FM connections.?
I have a couple of questions:
?- Is it possible for a VHF or UHF gateway station to support combined packet and VARA FM operation on the same radio channel, with one radio?
?- Can a VHF or UHF gateway station set up for VARA FM 'wide' Winlink operation also accept connections from VARA FM 'narrow' clients?
Separately, if I properly configure my station for P2P operation with VARA FM 'wide' capability, will it respond to connection requests from VARA FM 'narrow' peers?
Thank you for any help you can provide.
Mark Davis - AD7EF
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Can VARA FM 'narrow' Winlink clients connect to 'wide' P2P peers, or to VARA FM 'wide' gateways?
Our local ARES organization currently has a VHF Winlink gateway system set up for 1200 baud packet operation. I am investigating how we can have this gateway station also host VARA FM connections.?
I have a couple of questions:
?- Is it possible for a VHF or UHF gateway station to support combined packet and VARA FM operation on the same radio channel, with one radio?
?- Can a VHF or UHF gateway station set up for VARA FM 'wide' Winlink operation also accept connections from VARA FM 'narrow' clients?
Separately, if I properly configure my station for P2P operation with VARA FM 'wide' capability, will it respond to connection requests from VARA FM 'narrow' peers?
Thank you for any help you can provide.
Mark Davis - AD7EF
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Website is fine.? If I remember correctly, he sends you to a safe site to make the actual purchase.? I got mine just fine.
BruceN / K4TQL
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That is the website.? Not aware of an alt.
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On Thu, May 14, 2020 at 6:51 PM K7LBH - Lewis < lewis@...> wrote: I just went to grab a paid version of vara and the site just looks a bit suspicious.
Is there an alternate site?
Thanks,
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Mark Davis
Mel - N7GCO - Cheney, WA
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