Re: Alinco DR-CS10T as Winlink Gateway radio
FTM--6000 works great for VARA FM Wide using a DRA-50. Don't know about Digirig.?
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Re: Alinco DR-CS10T as Winlink Gateway radio
That¡¯s fine used on qrz 73 de K3FZT/Steve -- Steve Davidson K3FZTWinlink Gateway K3FZT-10@...?direct or via W3EOC-3 Supporting VARA FM Wide/1200bd Packet WIRES-X Room #85218 ¡°MARC-DARBY¡± 444.050 mHz K3FZT@... FN20ja
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On Feb 19, 2025, at 12:40, Steve K3FZT via groups.io <k3fzt@...> wrote:
? FTM-6000 find knew on qrz.com for ~$250-300 73 de K3FZT/Steve -- Steve Davidson K3FZTWinlink Gateway K3FZT-10@...?direct or via W3EOC-3 Supporting VARA FM Wide/1200bd Packet WIRES-X Room #85218 ¡°MARC-DARBY¡± 444.050 mHz K3FZT@... FN20ja On Feb 19, 2025, at 12:36, Thomas Heard via groups.io <fr.thomas.heard@...> wrote:
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73 de K3FZT / Steve
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Re: Alinco DR-CS10T as Winlink Gateway radio
FTM-6000 find knew on qrz.com for ~$250-300 73 de K3FZT/Steve -- Steve Davidson K3FZTWinlink Gateway K3FZT-10@...?direct or via W3EOC-3 Supporting VARA FM Wide/1200bd Packet WIRES-X Room #85218 ¡°MARC-DARBY¡± 444.050 mHz K3FZT@... FN20ja
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On Feb 19, 2025, at 12:36, Thomas Heard via groups.io <fr.thomas.heard@...> wrote:
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73 de K3FZT / Steve
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Re: Alinco DR-CS10T as Winlink Gateway radio
On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 07:53 AM, Thomas Heard wrote:
Any suggestions for a not-too-expensive VHF that would handle VARA WIDE?
Can you put a dollar amount on "not-to-expensive"?
?
Mark - AD7EF
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Re: TYT TD-9000D for VARA FM
#VARAFM
Bob,
Can you confirm that when the TYT transmits the Auto-Tune you
actually hear 10 different levels of volume from the monitor
receiver?
Also - where on the VU meter does the receive audio level ride at
when no signal is being received on channel?
Kevin
On 2/19/2025 10:28 AM, Bob W0EG via groups.io wrote:
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Keven,
I just ran Auto Tune on the DR-135 and it works correctly,
I can hear the audio volume increasing in steps?on another
radio and then? I get the APPROVED banner.? Same interface on
the TYT Auto Tune transmits identically, ten steps, but then I
get NO SIGNAL.? Also, Ping shows no SIgnal.? On connect
attempts, I do hear the gateway responding multiple times
after?the initial connect request.? Seems like a receive path
problem.
Bob,
Please do the following and report back:
Using another radio to listen to your transmission from
the TYT TH-9000D, initiate an "Auto Tune" from within VARA
FM making the TYT radio transmit.? How may different audio
levels do you hear when VARA transmits the 10 tries?
Kevin
On 2/19/2025 9:37 AM, Bob W0EG via wrote:
Keven,
Thank you for your detailed response.? I apologise
for hijacking?this thread, so I'll contact?you
directly for any followup.? You are correct that the
receive?audio should be on pin 2 and I mis-stated.?
The receive?audio is on pin?2 on my adapted TYT
radios.? I have been working with Scott at Repeater
Builder and using his supplied TYT DB9 adapters and
the connections are correct.? However, I read in
another document from another user that he had the TYT
and VARA working at a speed equivalent?to the Alinco
so I assumed (perhaps wrongly) that the TYT would work
with VARA Wide mode.? The TYT is transmitting and the
gateway is responding, but no data is passing. Once or
twice Winlink shows a connection, but then drops the
session without sending or receiving.? I have tried
setting VARA to narrow mode, but it must not be
working with the RB interface. I'll contact you
directly to see about buying you interface and adapter
cables.
Bob
W0EG?
Bob,
I see that you responded to the wrong thread this
morning - so I'll assume you're still having the
issues.
The - but I feel compelled
to respond - anyway...
My guess is that you somehow have the wrong RIM
Interface or the wrong accessory jack wiring, or
both.? Let me explain...
The TYT TH-9000 radio is only 1200 / VARA FM
Narrow capable.? As such - and unlike the Alinco
DR-135, both 1200 and 9600 (type) baud receive
audio doesn't exist on the DB9 accessory connector
- only 1200 baud is available there.? Depending on
who made the DB9 adapter cable for your radio, it
may not wired to give your RIM Lite receive audio
on the correct pin, or you have the wrong RIM Lite
that doesn't take the audio from the correct pin
on the DB9 accessory connector.? Unlike DRA's, RIM
Lite interfaces made for digital data do not allow
you to switch between the 1200 and 9600 audio
source pins.? As such - you need to make sure the
DB9 accessory connector puts the receive audio to
the correct pin of the RIM Lite - or the interface
won't work.
Additionally - and unlike the Alinco DR-135,
switching between 1200 and 9600 transmit audio is
not possible on a TYT TH-9000.? Again - the TYT
TH-9000D is only 1200 baud (VARA FM Narrow)
capable, and depending on what pin your
interface's transmit audio appears on - it might
not be making to the radio's modulator.? Switching
the TX audio on a RIM Alinco 9600 requires
surgery.
You claim you have receive audio on "Pin 3" of the
DB9, but receive audio should exist on pin 2 - .? So - I'm confused as to whether
you have a receive or transmit audio problem.?
It's possible you have both.? Transmit audio would
appear on pin 3 of the DB9 with a RIM Alinco 9600,
but pin 3 isn't connected to any DB9 pin as per
the above document.
You indicate that you own a RIM Alinco 9600, but
that interface is not wired correctly for a radio
that's properly pinned for 1200 baud.? You need a
"RIM Alinco" - not a "RIM Alinco 9600" for your
TYT TH-9000 radio.? Otherwise - you could rewire
the accessory jack to connect the proper pins -
making note of what you created, as it no longer
conforms to the 1200 baud standard.
---
I also make a retrofit accessory jack for the TYT
TH-9000, and it's pinned exactly like the Alinco
DR-X35 considering the "1200" baud audio type.?
It's called the "AC-25". When someone wants to
connect one of my DRA's to a TYT TH-9000 radio, I
recommend they additionally purchase one of my
"Alinco-6" adapters.? This adapter converts the
DB9 to a Mini-DIN-6 that follows the industry
standard pinout.? This board allows either 1200 or
9600 transmit audio to be selected, and
either 1200 or 9600 receive audio to be
selected when paired with a Mini-DIN-6 equipped RA
or DRA.? Selection is done by moving mechanical
(push-on) jumpers onto header pins - no soldering
is required.? When additionally paired with a
DRA-36M, this combination makes a fool-proof
installation that works properly on a TYT TH-9000D
for VARA FM Narrow, and can additionally be used
on Alinco DR-X35 radios for either VARA Narrow or
Wide.
This isn't a sales pitch - it's to show you that
alternative products are available, that might be
easier to user and are certainly more versatile.
Hope this helps...
Kevin
On 2/17/2025 9:49 AM, Bob W0EG via wrote:
Do you need to change any settings
in VARA ?or the interface when you switch
between the DR-135 and the TD-9000D?
On Mon, Feb
17, 2025 at 9:15?AM Rick Muething via
<rickmuething= [email protected]>
wrote:
Bob,
I have been using VARA FM with my
DR-135 and also a TYT TH-9000D. I added
the 9 Pin D connector to the stock
TH-9000D with the same DB9 pinout as the
DR-135.? I am using the DRA-36 Masters
modem for both.?
73,
Rick Muething, KN6KB? Winlink
Development Team?
[Edited Message Follows]
I have two TYT TD-9000D low cost
Chinese radios and am having trouble
getting them to work with VARA FM.? I
thought I had this working with the
Repeater Builder RIB ALINCO 9600 and
the DB9 adapter cable, but apparently
not.? Note that the RIM ALINCO 9600
works flawlessly with the Alinco
DR-135. I have set this up on at least
five units with no issues.? The TYT
DB9 adapter cable from Repeater
Builder is built correctly pre my
continuity checks and the pinout
information I have.? the TD-9000D will
transmit to the gateway and the
gateway responds, but VARA and Winlink
do not connect. I can see receive
audio on the DB9 pin 3 with a scope.?
Same RIM ALINCO 9600 and computer with
Winlink Express and VARA FM? that
works on the DR-135.? Tried both
narrow and wide.? Is anyone here
having success with the TYT TD-900D?
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Re: Alinco DR-CS10T as Winlink Gateway radio
Thanks for that.
Any suggestions for a not-too-expensive VHF that would handle VARA WIDE?
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Re: Alinco DR-CS10T as Winlink Gateway radio
Unfortunately, the Chinese?made Alinco radios no longer have the DB9 interface for wideband audio..The DR-135 was the last of the made in Japan Alincos before they folded and TYT acquired?the name and assets.? So no, it's not VARA WIDE capable.
On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 9:31?AM Thomas Heard via <fr.thomas.heard= [email protected]> wrote: Hi, I'm looking at the above as the radio for a new Winlink Gateway. I'd use a Digirig Mobile as the interface. Is it capable of 9600 on Vara FM?
?
Any thoughts on this application?
Thanks and 73
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Re: TYT TD-9000D for VARA FM
#VARAFM
Keven,
I just ran Auto Tune on the DR-135 and it works correctly, I can hear the audio volume increasing in steps?on another radio and then? I get the APPROVED banner.? Same interface on the TYT Auto Tune transmits identically, ten steps, but then I get NO SIGNAL.? Also, Ping shows no SIgnal.? On connect attempts, I do hear the gateway responding multiple times after?the initial connect request.? Seems like a receive path problem.
Bob,
Please do the following and report back:
Using another radio to listen to your transmission from the TYT
TH-9000D, initiate an "Auto Tune" from within VARA FM making the
TYT radio transmit.? How may different audio levels do you hear
when VARA transmits the 10 tries?
Kevin
On 2/19/2025 9:37 AM, Bob W0EG via wrote:
Keven,
Thank you for your detailed response.? I apologise for
hijacking?this thread, so I'll contact?you directly for any
followup.? You are correct that the receive?audio should be on
pin 2 and I mis-stated.? The receive?audio is on pin?2 on my
adapted TYT radios.? I have been working with Scott at
Repeater Builder and using his supplied TYT DB9 adapters and
the connections are correct.? However, I read in another
document from another user that he had the TYT and VARA
working at a speed equivalent?to the Alinco so I assumed
(perhaps wrongly) that the TYT would work with VARA Wide
mode.? The TYT is transmitting and the gateway is responding,
but no data is passing. Once or twice Winlink shows a
connection, but then drops the session without sending or
receiving.? I have tried setting VARA to narrow mode, but it
must not be working with the RB interface. I'll contact you
directly to see about buying you interface and adapter cables.
Bob
W0EG?
Bob,
I see that you responded to the wrong thread this morning
- so I'll assume you're still having the issues.
The - but I feel compelled to respond -
anyway...
My guess is that you somehow have the wrong RIM Interface
or the wrong accessory jack wiring, or both.? Let me
explain...
The TYT TH-9000 radio is only 1200 / VARA FM Narrow
capable.? As such - and unlike the Alinco DR-135, both
1200 and 9600 (type) baud receive audio doesn't exist on
the DB9 accessory connector - only 1200 baud is available
there.? Depending on who made the DB9 adapter cable for
your radio, it may not wired to give your RIM Lite receive
audio on the correct pin, or you have the wrong RIM Lite
that doesn't take the audio from the correct pin on the
DB9 accessory connector.? Unlike DRA's, RIM Lite
interfaces made for digital data do not allow you to
switch between the 1200 and 9600 audio source pins.? As
such - you need to make sure the DB9 accessory connector
puts the receive audio to the correct pin of the RIM Lite
- or the interface won't work.
Additionally - and unlike the Alinco DR-135, switching
between 1200 and 9600 transmit audio is not possible on a
TYT TH-9000.? Again - the TYT TH-9000D is only 1200 baud
(VARA FM Narrow) capable, and depending on what pin your
interface's transmit audio appears on - it might not be
making to the radio's modulator.? Switching the TX audio
on a RIM Alinco 9600 requires surgery.
You claim you have receive audio on "Pin 3" of the DB9,
but receive audio should exist on pin 2 - .?
So - I'm confused as to whether you have a receive or
transmit audio problem.? It's possible you have both.?
Transmit audio would appear on pin 3 of the DB9 with a RIM
Alinco 9600, but pin 3 isn't connected to any DB9 pin as
per the above document.
You indicate that you own a RIM Alinco 9600, but that
interface is not wired correctly for a radio that's
properly pinned for 1200 baud.? You need a "RIM Alinco" -
not a "RIM Alinco 9600" for your TYT TH-9000 radio.?
Otherwise - you could rewire the accessory jack to connect
the proper pins - making note of what you created, as it
no longer conforms to the 1200 baud standard.
---
I also make a retrofit accessory jack for the TYT TH-9000,
and it's pinned exactly like the Alinco DR-X35 considering
the "1200" baud audio type.? It's called the "AC-25". When
someone wants to connect one of my DRA's to a TYT TH-9000
radio, I recommend they additionally purchase one of my
"Alinco-6" adapters.? This adapter converts the DB9 to a
Mini-DIN-6 that follows the industry standard pinout.?
This board allows either 1200 or 9600 transmit audio
to be selected, and either 1200 or 9600 receive audio
to be selected when paired with a Mini-DIN-6 equipped RA
or DRA.? Selection is done by moving mechanical (push-on)
jumpers onto header pins - no soldering is required.? When
additionally paired with a DRA-36M, this combination makes
a fool-proof installation that works properly on a TYT
TH-9000D for VARA FM Narrow, and can additionally be used
on Alinco DR-X35 radios for either VARA Narrow or Wide.
This isn't a sales pitch - it's to show you that
alternative products are available, that might be easier
to user and are certainly more versatile.
Hope this helps...
Kevin
On 2/17/2025 9:49 AM, Bob W0EG via wrote:
Do you need to change any settings in VARA
?or the interface when you switch between the DR-135 and
the TD-9000D?
On Mon, Feb 17, 2025
at 9:15?AM Rick Muething via
<rickmuething= [email protected]>
wrote:
Bob,
I have been using VARA FM with my DR-135 and
also a TYT TH-9000D. I added the 9 Pin D
connector to the stock TH-9000D with the same
DB9 pinout as the DR-135.? I am using the DRA-36
Masters modem for both.?
73,
Rick Muething, KN6KB? Winlink Development
Team?
[Edited Message Follows]
I have two TYT TD-9000D low cost Chinese
radios and am having trouble getting them to
work with VARA FM.? I thought I had this
working with the Repeater Builder RIB ALINCO
9600 and the DB9 adapter cable, but apparently
not.? Note that the RIM ALINCO 9600 works
flawlessly with the Alinco DR-135. I have set
this up on at least five units with no
issues.? The TYT DB9 adapter cable from
Repeater Builder is built correctly pre my
continuity checks and the pinout information I
have.? the TD-9000D will transmit to the
gateway and the gateway responds, but VARA and
Winlink do not connect. I can see receive
audio on the DB9 pin 3 with a scope.? Same RIM
ALINCO 9600 and computer with Winlink Express
and VARA FM? that works on the DR-135.? Tried
both narrow and wide.? Is anyone here having
success with the TYT TD-900D?
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Re: TYT TD-9000D for VARA FM
#VARAFM
Bob,
Please do the following and report back:
Using another radio to listen to your transmission from the TYT
TH-9000D, initiate an "Auto Tune" from within VARA FM making the
TYT radio transmit.? How may different audio levels do you hear
when VARA transmits the 10 tries?
Kevin
On 2/19/2025 9:37 AM, Bob W0EG via groups.io wrote:
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Keven,
Thank you for your detailed response.? I apologise for
hijacking?this thread, so I'll contact?you directly for any
followup.? You are correct that the receive?audio should be on
pin 2 and I mis-stated.? The receive?audio is on pin?2 on my
adapted TYT radios.? I have been working with Scott at
Repeater Builder and using his supplied TYT DB9 adapters and
the connections are correct.? However, I read in another
document from another user that he had the TYT and VARA
working at a speed equivalent?to the Alinco so I assumed
(perhaps wrongly) that the TYT would work with VARA Wide
mode.? The TYT is transmitting and the gateway is responding,
but no data is passing. Once or twice Winlink shows a
connection, but then drops the session without sending or
receiving.? I have tried setting VARA to narrow mode, but it
must not be working with the RB interface. I'll contact you
directly to see about buying you interface and adapter cables.
Bob
W0EG?
Bob,
I see that you responded to the wrong thread this morning
- so I'll assume you're still having the issues.
The - but I feel compelled to respond -
anyway...
My guess is that you somehow have the wrong RIM Interface
or the wrong accessory jack wiring, or both.? Let me
explain...
The TYT TH-9000 radio is only 1200 / VARA FM Narrow
capable.? As such - and unlike the Alinco DR-135, both
1200 and 9600 (type) baud receive audio doesn't exist on
the DB9 accessory connector - only 1200 baud is available
there.? Depending on who made the DB9 adapter cable for
your radio, it may not wired to give your RIM Lite receive
audio on the correct pin, or you have the wrong RIM Lite
that doesn't take the audio from the correct pin on the
DB9 accessory connector.? Unlike DRA's, RIM Lite
interfaces made for digital data do not allow you to
switch between the 1200 and 9600 audio source pins.? As
such - you need to make sure the DB9 accessory connector
puts the receive audio to the correct pin of the RIM Lite
- or the interface won't work.
Additionally - and unlike the Alinco DR-135, switching
between 1200 and 9600 transmit audio is not possible on a
TYT TH-9000.? Again - the TYT TH-9000D is only 1200 baud
(VARA FM Narrow) capable, and depending on what pin your
interface's transmit audio appears on - it might not be
making to the radio's modulator.? Switching the TX audio
on a RIM Alinco 9600 requires surgery.
You claim you have receive audio on "Pin 3" of the DB9,
but receive audio should exist on pin 2 - .?
So - I'm confused as to whether you have a receive or
transmit audio problem.? It's possible you have both.?
Transmit audio would appear on pin 3 of the DB9 with a RIM
Alinco 9600, but pin 3 isn't connected to any DB9 pin as
per the above document.
You indicate that you own a RIM Alinco 9600, but that
interface is not wired correctly for a radio that's
properly pinned for 1200 baud.? You need a "RIM Alinco" -
not a "RIM Alinco 9600" for your TYT TH-9000 radio.?
Otherwise - you could rewire the accessory jack to connect
the proper pins - making note of what you created, as it
no longer conforms to the 1200 baud standard.
---
I also make a retrofit accessory jack for the TYT TH-9000,
and it's pinned exactly like the Alinco DR-X35 considering
the "1200" baud audio type.? It's called the "AC-25". When
someone wants to connect one of my DRA's to a TYT TH-9000
radio, I recommend they additionally purchase one of my
"Alinco-6" adapters.? This adapter converts the DB9 to a
Mini-DIN-6 that follows the industry standard pinout.?
This board allows either 1200 or 9600 transmit audio
to be selected, and either 1200 or 9600 receive audio
to be selected when paired with a Mini-DIN-6 equipped RA
or DRA.? Selection is done by moving mechanical (push-on)
jumpers onto header pins - no soldering is required.? When
additionally paired with a DRA-36M, this combination makes
a fool-proof installation that works properly on a TYT
TH-9000D for VARA FM Narrow, and can additionally be used
on Alinco DR-X35 radios for either VARA Narrow or Wide.
This isn't a sales pitch - it's to show you that
alternative products are available, that might be easier
to user and are certainly more versatile.
Hope this helps...
Kevin
On 2/17/2025 9:49 AM, Bob W0EG via wrote:
Do you need to change any settings in VARA
?or the interface when you switch between the DR-135 and
the TD-9000D?
On Mon, Feb 17, 2025
at 9:15?AM Rick Muething via
<rickmuething= [email protected]>
wrote:
Bob,
I have been using VARA FM with my DR-135 and
also a TYT TH-9000D. I added the 9 Pin D
connector to the stock TH-9000D with the same
DB9 pinout as the DR-135.? I am using the DRA-36
Masters modem for both.?
73,
Rick Muething, KN6KB? Winlink Development
Team?
[Edited Message Follows]
I have two TYT TD-9000D low cost Chinese
radios and am having trouble getting them to
work with VARA FM.? I thought I had this
working with the Repeater Builder RIB ALINCO
9600 and the DB9 adapter cable, but apparently
not.? Note that the RIM ALINCO 9600 works
flawlessly with the Alinco DR-135. I have set
this up on at least five units with no
issues.? The TYT DB9 adapter cable from
Repeater Builder is built correctly pre my
continuity checks and the pinout information I
have.? the TD-9000D will transmit to the
gateway and the gateway responds, but VARA and
Winlink do not connect. I can see receive
audio on the DB9 pin 3 with a scope.? Same RIM
ALINCO 9600 and computer with Winlink Express
and VARA FM? that works on the DR-135.? Tried
both narrow and wide.? Is anyone here having
success with the TYT TD-900D?
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Re: TYT TD-9000D for VARA FM
#VARAFM
Keven,
Thank you for your detailed response.? I apologise for hijacking?this thread, so I'll contact?you directly for any followup.? You are correct that the receive?audio should be on pin 2 and I mis-stated.? The receive?audio is on pin?2 on my adapted TYT radios.? I have been working with Scott at Repeater Builder and using his supplied TYT DB9 adapters and the connections are correct.? However, I read in another document from another user that he had the TYT and VARA working at a speed equivalent?to the Alinco so I assumed (perhaps wrongly) that the TYT would work with VARA Wide mode.? The TYT is transmitting and the gateway is responding, but no data is passing. Once or twice Winlink shows a connection, but then drops the session without sending or receiving.? I have tried setting VARA to narrow mode, but it must not be working with the RB interface. I'll contact you directly to see about buying you interface and adapter cables.
Bob W0EG?
Bob,
I see that you responded to the wrong thread this morning - so
I'll assume you're still having the issues.
The - but I feel compelled to respond -
anyway...
My guess is that you somehow have the wrong RIM Interface or the
wrong accessory jack wiring, or both.? Let me explain...
The TYT TH-9000 radio is only 1200 / VARA FM Narrow capable.? As
such - and unlike the Alinco DR-135, both 1200 and 9600 (type)
baud receive audio doesn't exist on the DB9 accessory connector -
only 1200 baud is available there.? Depending on who made the DB9
adapter cable for your radio, it may not wired to give your RIM
Lite receive audio on the correct pin, or you have the wrong RIM
Lite that doesn't take the audio from the correct pin on the DB9
accessory connector.? Unlike DRA's, RIM Lite interfaces made for
digital data do not allow you to switch between the 1200 and 9600
audio source pins.? As such - you need to make sure the DB9
accessory connector puts the receive audio to the correct pin of
the RIM Lite - or the interface won't work.
Additionally - and unlike the Alinco DR-135, switching between
1200 and 9600 transmit audio is not possible on a TYT TH-9000.?
Again - the TYT TH-9000D is only 1200 baud (VARA FM Narrow)
capable, and depending on what pin your interface's transmit audio
appears on - it might not be making to the radio's modulator.?
Switching the TX audio on a RIM Alinco 9600 requires surgery.
You claim you have receive audio on "Pin 3" of the DB9, but
receive audio should exist on pin 2 - .? So - I'm confused as to whether you have a
receive or transmit audio problem.? It's possible you have both.?
Transmit audio would appear on pin 3 of the DB9 with a RIM Alinco
9600, but pin 3 isn't connected to any DB9 pin as per the above
document.
You indicate that you own a RIM Alinco 9600, but that interface is
not wired correctly for a radio that's properly pinned for 1200
baud.? You need a "RIM Alinco" - not a "RIM Alinco 9600" for your
TYT TH-9000 radio.? Otherwise - you could rewire the accessory
jack to connect the proper pins - making note of what you created,
as it no longer conforms to the 1200 baud standard.
---
I also make a retrofit accessory jack for the TYT TH-9000, and
it's pinned exactly like the Alinco DR-X35 considering the "1200"
baud audio type.? It's called the "AC-25". When someone wants to
connect one of my DRA's to a TYT TH-9000 radio, I recommend they
additionally purchase one of my "Alinco-6" adapters.? This adapter
converts the DB9 to a Mini-DIN-6 that follows the industry
standard pinout.? This board allows either 1200 or 9600 transmit
audio to be selected, and either 1200 or 9600 receive
audio to be selected when paired with a Mini-DIN-6 equipped
RA or DRA.? Selection is done by moving mechanical (push-on)
jumpers onto header pins - no soldering is required.? When
additionally paired with a DRA-36M, this combination makes a
fool-proof installation that works properly on a TYT TH-9000D for
VARA FM Narrow, and can additionally be used on Alinco DR-X35
radios for either VARA Narrow or Wide.
This isn't a sales pitch - it's to show you that alternative
products are available, that might be easier to user and are
certainly more versatile.
Hope this helps...
Kevin
On 2/17/2025 9:49 AM, Bob W0EG via wrote:
Do you need to change any settings in VARA ?or the
interface when you switch between the DR-135 and the TD-9000D?
On Mon, Feb 17, 2025 at
9:15?AM Rick Muething via <rickmuething= [email protected]>
wrote:
Bob,
I have been using VARA FM with my DR-135 and also a
TYT TH-9000D. I added the 9 Pin D connector to the stock
TH-9000D with the same DB9 pinout as the DR-135.? I am
using the DRA-36 Masters modem for both.?
73,
Rick Muething, KN6KB? Winlink Development Team?
[Edited Message Follows]
I have two TYT TD-9000D low cost Chinese radios and
am having trouble getting them to work with VARA FM.?
I thought I had this working with the Repeater Builder
RIB ALINCO 9600 and the DB9 adapter cable, but
apparently not.? Note that the RIM ALINCO 9600 works
flawlessly with the Alinco DR-135. I have set this up
on at least five units with no issues.? The TYT DB9
adapter cable from Repeater Builder is built correctly
pre my continuity checks and the pinout information I
have.? the TD-9000D will transmit to the gateway and
the gateway responds, but VARA and Winlink do not
connect. I can see receive audio on the DB9 pin 3 with
a scope.? Same RIM ALINCO 9600 and computer with
Winlink Express and VARA FM? that works on the
DR-135.? Tried both narrow and wide.? Is anyone here
having success with the TYT TD-900D?
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Alinco DR-CS10T as Winlink Gateway radio
Hi, I'm looking at the above as the radio for a new Winlink Gateway. I'd use a Digirig Mobile as the interface. Is it capable of 9600 on Vara FM?
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Any thoughts on this application?
Thanks and 73
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Re: TYT TD-9000D for VARA FM
#VARAFM
Bob,
I see that you responded to the wrong thread this morning - so
I'll assume you're still having the issues.
The - but I feel compelled to respond -
anyway...
My guess is that you somehow have the wrong RIM Interface or the
wrong accessory jack wiring, or both.? Let me explain...
The TYT TH-9000 radio is only 1200 / VARA FM Narrow capable.? As
such - and unlike the Alinco DR-135, both 1200 and 9600 (type)
baud receive audio doesn't exist on the DB9 accessory connector -
only 1200 baud is available there.? Depending on who made the DB9
adapter cable for your radio, it may not wired to give your RIM
Lite receive audio on the correct pin, or you have the wrong RIM
Lite that doesn't take the audio from the correct pin on the DB9
accessory connector.? Unlike DRA's, RIM Lite interfaces made for
digital data do not allow you to switch between the 1200 and 9600
audio source pins.? As such - you need to make sure the DB9
accessory connector puts the receive audio to the correct pin of
the RIM Lite - or the interface won't work.
Additionally - and unlike the Alinco DR-135, switching between
1200 and 9600 transmit audio is not possible on a TYT TH-9000.?
Again - the TYT TH-9000D is only 1200 baud (VARA FM Narrow)
capable, and depending on what pin your interface's transmit audio
appears on - it might not be making to the radio's modulator.?
Switching the TX audio on a RIM Alinco 9600 requires surgery.
You claim you have receive audio on "Pin 3" of the DB9, but
receive audio should exist on pin 2 - .? So - I'm confused as to whether you have a
receive or transmit audio problem.? It's possible you have both.?
Transmit audio would appear on pin 3 of the DB9 with a RIM Alinco
9600, but pin 3 isn't connected to any DB9 pin as per the above
document.
You indicate that you own a RIM Alinco 9600, but that interface is
not wired correctly for a radio that's properly pinned for 1200
baud.? You need a "RIM Alinco" - not a "RIM Alinco 9600" for your
TYT TH-9000 radio.? Otherwise - you could rewire the accessory
jack to connect the proper pins - making note of what you created,
as it no longer conforms to the 1200 baud standard.
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I also make a retrofit accessory jack for the TYT TH-9000, and
it's pinned exactly like the Alinco DR-X35 considering the "1200"
baud audio type.? It's called the "AC-25". When someone wants to
connect one of my DRA's to a TYT TH-9000 radio, I recommend they
additionally purchase one of my "Alinco-6" adapters.? This adapter
converts the DB9 to a Mini-DIN-6 that follows the industry
standard pinout.? This board allows either 1200 or 9600 transmit
audio to be selected, and either 1200 or 9600 receive
audio to be selected when paired with a Mini-DIN-6 equipped
RA or DRA.? Selection is done by moving mechanical (push-on)
jumpers onto header pins - no soldering is required.? When
additionally paired with a DRA-36M, this combination makes a
fool-proof installation that works properly on a TYT TH-9000D for
VARA FM Narrow, and can additionally be used on Alinco DR-X35
radios for either VARA Narrow or Wide.
This isn't a sales pitch - it's to show you that alternative
products are available, that might be easier to user and are
certainly more versatile.
Hope this helps...
Kevin
On 2/17/2025 9:49 AM, Bob W0EG via groups.io wrote:
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Do you need to change any settings in VARA ?or the
interface when you switch between the DR-135 and the TD-9000D?
On Mon, Feb 17, 2025 at
9:15?AM Rick Muething via <rickmuething= [email protected]>
wrote:
Bob,
I have been using VARA FM with my DR-135 and also a
TYT TH-9000D. I added the 9 Pin D connector to the stock
TH-9000D with the same DB9 pinout as the DR-135.? I am
using the DRA-36 Masters modem for both.?
73,
Rick Muething, KN6KB? Winlink Development Team?
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I have two TYT TD-9000D low cost Chinese radios and
am having trouble getting them to work with VARA FM.?
I thought I had this working with the Repeater Builder
RIB ALINCO 9600 and the DB9 adapter cable, but
apparently not.? Note that the RIM ALINCO 9600 works
flawlessly with the Alinco DR-135. I have set this up
on at least five units with no issues.? The TYT DB9
adapter cable from Repeater Builder is built correctly
pre my continuity checks and the pinout information I
have.? the TD-9000D will transmit to the gateway and
the gateway responds, but VARA and Winlink do not
connect. I can see receive audio on the DB9 pin 3 with
a scope.? Same RIM ALINCO 9600 and computer with
Winlink Express and VARA FM? that works on the
DR-135.? Tried both narrow and wide.? Is anyone here
having success with the TYT TD-900D?
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Re: Winlink VARA FM 3.8.4 on Raspberry Pi4B- TUNE hangs ON - must kill with Task Manager
#VARAFM
When I use the TUNE button on VARA FM on my PC, I have to click on the TUNE button a 2nd time to stop it from transmitting.? I believe the lable changes from TUNE to STOP, or something like that, when you click it the first time.? So....click to transmit, click again to stop transmitting. But I don't have a Pi so perhaps it is different there.
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Re: Vara FM and Alinco DR-B185
Sorry, ?I responded to the wrong thread.? Please disregard.
On Wed, Feb 19, 2025 at 6:47?AM Bob Morris < morrisnc7@...> wrote: Thanks,. Yes, I have no problem with the Alinco DR-135 radios.? My issue is with the TYT TH-9000D and it does not have a digital mode channel programming option.? It does have a connector on the motherboard that provided the analog signals and PTT and I have that wired to a DB9 connector to match the Alinco Pinot. The Alinco has a special button for digital modes. Make sure you turn this on.
Gary
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I am unable to get vara fm to work using an Alinco DR-B185 and a Signalink. The system works fine sending and receiving winlink packet. I think I have tried every setting available. Computer is a Dell Latitude 6410.
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Any ideas......
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Smiley
Ellijay, Ga.
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Re: Vara FM and Alinco DR-B185
Thanks,. Yes, I have no problem with the Alinco DR-135 radios.? My issue is with the TYT TH-9000D and it does not have a digital mode channel programming option.? It does have a connector on the motherboard that provided the analog signals and PTT and I have that wired to a DB9 connector to match the Alinco Pinot.
The Alinco has a special button for digital modes. Make sure you turn this on.
Gary
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I am unable to get vara fm to work using an Alinco DR-B185 and a Signalink. The system works fine sending and receiving winlink packet. I think I have tried every setting available. Computer is a Dell Latitude 6410.
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Any ideas......
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Smiley
Ellijay, Ga.
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Re: Vara FM and Alinco DR-B185
On Tue, Feb 18, 2025 at 08:43 PM, Gary Hutton wrote:
The Alinco has a special button for digital modes. Make sure you turn this on.
Gary;
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Some Alinco transceivers have provisions for data communications, with some form of dedicated 'DATA' connection apart from the mic and/or external speaker jacks. The key advantages of such a dedicated 'DATA' jack is that they allow the connection of an external TNC (Terminal Node Controller) or other external USB soundcard rig-interface device without having to disconnect the microphone, or disabling the internal speaker. And, the receive signal level through the 'DATA' connector is constant... it doesn't vary with changes to the volume control.
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The Alinco models that do provide a "DATA' jack (or at least support that functionality on the circuit board) typically provide a button or menu option for configuring the radio for 1200bps Packet or for 9600bps Packet through the 'DATA' connector.
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The Alinco DR-185 doesn't have any such provisions for data communications. It doesn't have a 'DATA' connector, and it doesn't have any button or menu option related to data communications.?
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The only way to use a TNC (Terminal Node Controller) or other external USB soundcard rig-interface device with the DR-185 is by connecting the device to the microphone jack, and the external speaker jack on the back of the radio.?
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With the requirement to use the microphone connector and external speaker jack, the DR-185 can be used effectively for 1200bps Packet and for VARA FM NARROW data communications. However, the attendant pre-emphasis and de-emphasis audio filtering and 2.8KHZ audio bandwidth prevent using this radio for 9600bps Packet or for VARA FM WIDE operation.
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Mark - AD7EF
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Re: Vara FM and Alinco DR-B185
The Alinco has a special button for digital modes. Make sure you turn this on.
Gary
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I am unable to get vara fm to work using an Alinco DR-B185 and a Signalink. The system works fine sending and receiving winlink packet. I think I have tried every setting available. Computer is a Dell Latitude 6410.
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Any ideas......
?
Smiley
Ellijay, Ga.
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Re: TYT TD-9000D for VARA FM
#VARAFM
Bob,
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Not specific to VARA but perhaps a clue: I was working with a local group here in LA that supports an extreme marathon race in the mountains above the LA basin. We have a 220 packet network that carries some of the safety and logistics traffic related to the event. I has purchased a new 220 radio and DRA, lashed the two together and put in place Direwolf as well as the UZ7HO modems. I had difficulty getting a reliable connect and eventually trcked the problem down to the PLL in the radio. At PTT the transmit frequency of the radio would undergo extreme excursions around the assigned frequency. I was able to overcome the issue by delaying the output tones of the modem by about 150 - 200 msec. Turns out the node I was trying to connect to couldn't lock up on the RX signal which caused it to lose some early data.
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Screen grab from Airspy & SDR Sharp, similar results with my Siglent SSA.
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I ended up getting rid of the radio.?Maybe you are experiencing something similar? Try dialing in some delay and see how it behaves.?
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-73,
Chris, KD6OUB
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Kevin Custer
Steve K3FZT
Mark Davis
Stu Olson
Gary Hutton