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unimat 3d model project


 

That's great! I wanted to do some things like that, but! First, I was a stupid young punk in 1969 when I had a class in mechanical drawing, and blew it off. Over the last dozen or so years, I've tried several times to teach myself CADD, and failed miserably. Not enough time and attention to apply myself to it.?

Thanks to you, and your son!

Bill in OKC?

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On Monday, March 25, 2024 at 08:46:48 PM CDT, Barry Yankolonis <blyank@...> wrote:


Just to follow up on my previous posts in 'Watchmaker Spindle Play", I've finished my work on cleaning up the Watchmaker Spindle I was working on.? Several people requested that while I had it disassembled, to take some pics and make some drawings.? Well my son is a Mechanical Engineer and while visiting me several weeks ago, while I had the spindle apart, he completely drew up 3D CAD models of the WW watchmaker spindle and sleeve.? He needs to do a little clean up work and will send me *.stp and *iges files along with drawings.? When I get them will post them in the files section.? Hang tight, cause it might be a little while before I get them.? He is up to his neck in work right now, and on the road a lot soo... if it's not work related, it ain't happening right now.? But promise when I get them will post them.?
Yank Yankolonis


 

I tried it Mike, but it comes out half inch high.?

This is what the stl viewer shows: (I use it all the time so I trust it)


 

try x1000

When I open it, it says its "units" are in meters.? Should the bore/hole be 12mm?? That's what I show.?

I can export it and upload it here if that helps


 

and I guess to be sure, are you talking about the linked onshape one?


 

I opened the stl one that is in the files section and it was also in meters, so I think multiplying by 1000 will get you to the right scale.?


 

Yes, that¡¯s the one. I never thought of METERS. LOL

if you can Rick, please do post a ¡®big enough to see¡¯ version.?


 

you can get a limited version of fusion (what they are now calling fusion 360) for personal use - scroll down the page here -
its about 2/3 of the way down the page - or do a search for autodesk fusion for personal use. this is what I use and it is good for creating STL's
Peter


------ Original Message ------
From "clankennedy2004 via groups.io" <clankennedy2004@...>
Date 25/03/2024 22:46:09
Subject Re: [Unimat] unimat 3d model project

Hey Guys, I'm late to this thread but I also would like to register my interest in a 'archive' of 3D models for unimat accessories ! I don't own one myself but go have an ax minster Sieg C0 Baby Lathe so with the right scaling or editing of the model many accessories could be useful to me also ! However I would be curious to know what file format everyone uses ? I suppose its STL if its purpose is for 3D Printing and with the right conversion that can be edited into almost any file format you could need but having trained in CAD I know that not all models are made equally. Perhaps not an issue if your just converting to STL and printing but if your converting back and then trying to edit said model then problems may arise :/ Still Interested however. I have only access to SketchUp and FreeCAD however although I would love to have free 'access' to Fusion 360 its just too pricey. Inventor 3d likewise and even Plasticity is too expensive for me :/

Kind regards,

Paul

On Monday, 25 March 2024 at 22:03:23 GMT, Nevadablue <nevadablue@...> wrote:



 

Try "Tail Stock v2" in the files, see if that works for you


 

Thanks! I¡¯m not sure¡­ the distance from the top of the arch that sits on the way bar to the center of the quill hole (vertical distance) should be the center height of a Unimat. That is 36mm.?


 

I haven't measured anything from mine yet, just using files already out there.? Are you saying 36mm (and that model) is wrong??


 

Or maybe you were saying that's what it should be.? In that case, yea I believe so.? from the model I show it to be 35.946.? some googling says it should be 1.42" (36.068).? Not sure how close is "good enough" on these or what the tolerances were like on the OEM parts.


 

I think you got it. Sounds like I need to do a test print. Thanks!!!

I have a drawing from a fellow on youtube that has the dimensions of all the other parts of the tailstock. I have asked his permission to post his drawing here so I don¡¯t have to re-draw it.?


 

On Tue, Mar 26, 2024 at 02:56 AM, <rick@...> wrote:
I opened the stl one that is in the files section and it was also in meters, so I think multiplying by 1000 will get you to the right scale.?
I had trouble with CAD models I was sending out until I discovered a setting in my CAD which defines the units used. (The range runs from ?ngstroms to Parsecs, which seems a bit ridiculous.) Customers were finding they had to scale up or down by a factor of 25.4 due to inch/mm confusion.

I'm producing 3D drawings on an Autocad clone. I make available DWG and STP files for 3D, DWG and DXF for 2D. The STP and DXF files are huge, but Zip up quite well. I have not had much luck loading in STL files and trying to edit them. STP is intended as the neutral exchange 3D file format and should be well supported by CAD programmes. I import and export STP files quite often, and usually without problems.

I'm using Bricscad. You can download it for free, but after 30 days you will be left with a relatively simple 3D package which is fully compatible with Autocad and its clones. For me, that would be the simplest one to use, but then I've been using Autocad, in various forms, for many years. It des mean that, for example, I could draw up some complicated part and make it available for others to use in their designs. I see (on other forums) people struggling to form shapes that I know I can do in minutes, but the systems are not compatible, so I can't tell them the commands that would make the job simple.


 

/g/Unimat/files/Unimat_SL_Tailstock_Ram.pdf I found that in the files section here last night, not sure if you've come across it/if that helps you any.?

I gave in and brought mine to the office with me today to start getting some measurements.? Realized immediately the casting for the cross slide on mine is different than Rowan's, so I guess there were some revisions over time.?


 

If you are going to post a drawing please consider/remember a couple of things:
1) Let every body know what your basic drawing units are, inches, millimeters, cubits - whatever.? Not everybody uses the same ruler as you, some of us will have to scale your drawing to be able to use the units that we are familiar with.
2) STL files are not drawing files, they are files aimed at 3D printers.? They are made up of facets, there isn't a true curve in one, just lots and lots of triangles.? They?CAN be edited by some 3D CAD packages, but the results are not always predictable.? If you don't REALLY want anybody to be able to change your drawing then just do the STL file.? If you don't mind that other people can use and modify your drawing, then include the drawing file.
3) Not everybody uses the same 3D CAD software as you, so not everybody will be able to open a file that your CAD software creates.? A lot of 3D CAD software packages will let you import/export DXF files.? Please export your drawing in the DXF format along with your drawing file, this will give people with other 3D CAD packages a chance to be able to use/edit your drawing for their own purposes.


 

Keith, thanks for the tip on the Bricscad. I just sent them a note about the trial. It looks like (from their website) that it quits working after 30 days. I don¡¯t want to learn it and then not have it working. Hmmm¡­


 

HA! I found it. BricsCAD Shape, can be directly downloaded. That is what remains after the trial. I¡¯ll just start with it. Link here:


 

If you are looking for "free" 3D CAD you are kind of limited in your choices:
1) Fusion 360 has a "free" version but it's limited.? It is available free to hobbyists and can be used professionally on a very limited basis, you have make less than $100K a year using it, and professionally you can only use it free for for a limited time.? I think that limited time is something like 3 years.? If your business makes more than $100K/year, or if you have been using it in your business for 3 years they will require you to purchase a subscription.? Fusion 360 uses Parametric Based modeling, and it is VERY powerful.? Some people find it easy to use, I didn't.? Most people that I have talked to, at least those that also have a long background in 2D CAD, seem to have a hard time with Fusion 360.? Fusion 360 needs an internet connection to verify your license, even though the software is installed on your machine.? The current "free" version of Fusion 360 also is less powerful than the "free" version before they went subscription.
2) DesignSpark 3D also has a "free" version.? DesignSpark is the software I used to learn 3D modeling, it is Direct Based modeling and is easier for some people to learn to use.? Last year the makers of DesignSpark decided to do the same thing that Autodesk did with Fusion 360, they switched to subscription.? The "free" version that they now offer is less powerful than their previous versions.? Both Fusion 360 and DesignSpark will deactivate your license if you don't use it often enough.? DesignSpark is less powerful than Fusion 360 and some times it felt like you had to force it to do what you wanted.? DesignSpark also needs an internet connection to verify your license, even though the software is installed on your machine.
3) FreeCAD is an Open-Source CAD package and as such is free to download and use with no restrictions.? It, like Fusion 360, is Parametric Based modeling.? FreeCAD? works, and there are a LOT of tutorials on how to use it.? I would recommend finding somebody whose tutorials that you like and stick with that person.? FreeCAD being open-sourced has had many developers, sometimes everything doesn't play well together.? ?At times it feels that you could ask 10 different people how to do the same thing in FreeCAD, get at least 12 different answers - and they'd ALL work.? It's very powerful, does a LOT of different things, but it can also be very confusing.
4) ONSHAPE also has a free version, and subscription versions.? It's cloud based and the free version requires you to make your work available to one and all.? I personally am not OK with that, so I don't use it but it's still there.
5) TinkerCAD and Sketch-up... I've seen people make some really fantastic stuff with these, but to me they didn't seem all that precise - so I never looked at them very hard.? I'm probably just biased because of a long 2D CAD experience with Autocad.


 

I'm the one who made the U3 CAD models up on Grabcad.?
I thought some day I might get my hands on an older version and do the same, but that hasn't happened yet : )
I was using the free student version of Inventor -?


 

I wish you had, looks like you did a great job on the U3 model lol.? Hopefully I'm up to the task.? I do a lot of modeling and reverse engineering at work.? I trust myself to get the important dimensions right, not so confident on the various curved surfaces and what not.? I'm starting on it soon though.? Mine is getting stripped down starting tonight