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Re: Case / base for newly acquired PC/basic
I adapted an old carpenter¡¯s toolbox to hold my lathe. The major modification was to the front folding section - this was beefed up with a section of counter-top and I added a pair of feet pinned with hinge sections. Pulling the hinge pins allows the lathe to fold up into the box. The lathe is held in place by knock-down furniture screws - the shanks just fit into the lathe mounting holes and act as keepers. ? ? ??Pics here:? DW |
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Re: Rustoleum Green Hammered
? " According to Ruben, everything I might want to do is almost useless.? This seems to be the nature of many IO discussion groups:? mostly talk. " John, you don't know me and I don't know you, but you're to fast with conclusions. I jumped into action and the 2 unimat's in original paint went for the studio to make color neutral photo's. You want to preserve the original Unimat color's, but strange enough you don't want to hear about an accurate way to do it.....!? |
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Re: Rustoleum Green Hammered
Ok,? here are photos of four different SL's. Note one has a Grey Headstock and also note that on one the motor color in difference, a little lighter and that is the motor that came with it. That lighter color is closer to the Rust-o-leum Rosemary. You could also ask for photos of the accessories, because they were painted the same as the lathes.
Jeff
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From: John Hutnick <johnhutnick@...> To: phill005 <phill05@...>; [email protected] Sent: Fri, Mar 24, 2023 3:58 pm Subject: Re: [Unimat] Rustoleum Green Hammered Can we stay with the subject of paint and all of us try to contribute photos, or should we just drop the subject?
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Re: Case / base for newly acquired PC/basic
A sheet steel top is a good idea, making it easier to use a magnetic base indicator holder even if you have an alloy machine. I don't know enough about the PC/Basic machines. I've only laid eyes on 6 of the Unimats, including the two I own. And I wasn't able to touch the other four. I'd thought? one of mine was a DB, as it says it's a model DB-200, but the rest of the label on the headstock says it's a Unimat-SL, and both are alloy beds, headstocks, tailstocks, etc.? I'm so confused!? ? Bill in OKC William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY! Physics doesn't care about your schedule. The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better. Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Friday, March 24, 2023 at 10:55:22 AM CDT, jpow <powster@...> wrote:
Hi All, ? Such a wealth of information in all your replies. Much appreciation to all :) I have much to think about when I sit down to design it this week. I'm considering a combination of wood (with sealed surfaces, or perhaps a steel sheet on top), and aluminum extusion for the sides. ? JP |
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Re: Unimat SL - Vertical column & Headstock Adapter
I haven't either. But know (of ) some folks who have, like the Mike of the link I provided. For those who live in the UK, you can buy a kit to make a rotary broaching tool from Hemingway.?? Might be a bit too large for a Unimat. Should be just about right for a Myford.? Bill in OKC William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY! Physics doesn't care about your schedule. The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better. Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Friday, March 24, 2023 at 11:57:50 AM CDT, Dave Seiter <d.seiter@...> wrote:
I've actually never played with rotary broaches.? Maybe I should try making a spare bolt. -Dave
On Friday, March 24, 2023 at 09:06:42 AM PDT, Bill in OKC too via groups.io <wmrmeyers@...> wrote:
That is not lazy, it's smart. Though you should be able to make a rotary broaching tool for the Unimats, as a number of folks have for mini-lathes.? http://mikesworkshop.weebly.com/rotary-broaching.html I'm not sure it would work as well on a Unimat due to the size difference in the machines, but it should work at least for smaller sized broaches. Bill in OKC? William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY! Physics doesn't care about your schedule. The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better. Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Friday, March 24, 2023 at 08:53:49 AM CDT, Carl <carl.blum@...> wrote:
Hello
Dave: I would tap the end M6 and Loktite a M6 SHCS in. I'm lazy like that. Carl. On 3/24/2023 3:09 AM, Dave Seiter
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Re: Rustoleum Green Hammered
Here is a link to the Accessories section, it is huge and will take a bit to download, but it has all of the photos and parts numbers. Jeff
On Friday, March 24, 2023 at 01:54:57 PM EDT, Jkle379184 via groups.io <jkle379184@...> wrote:
Here is a link to the parts section of this old web site.
http://unimatparts.com/parts-unimat.html
Jeff -----Original Message-----
From: Jkle379184 via groups.io <jkle379184@...> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Mar 24, 2023 1:52 pm Subject: Re: [Unimat] Rustoleum Green Hammered Looking at the photos and specs, they had
Cast iron BD200 models, Black Crinkle paint
Cast Iron BD200 "? ? ? ? ? ?,? Hammered Blue
? ? ? ?BD200? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Hammered Green, looks to be a lighter green
And the SL models with their darker Hammered green, But I have one that was also in the Hammered Grey ( Blue)
And I have seen the SL1000 With the Hammered Green that had a slight yellow tint to them and I have seen them with a slight blue tint.
Age and exposure to light can change the colors, long term exposure to flourescent light bleaches the color away.
?Jeff
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From: Jkle379184 via groups.io <jkle379184@...> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Mar 24, 2023 1:42 pm Subject: Re: [Unimat] Rustoleum Green Hammered Use this link to get to the old site. Once it loads look at the photo and specs of the Unimat at the top. It will change and show all of the models and there colors
https://web.archive.org/web/20160708065223/http://unimatparts.com/parts.html
Jeff
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From: Jkle379184 via groups.io <jkle379184@...> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Mar 24, 2023 1:31 pm Subject: Re: [Unimat] Rustoleum Green Hammered ?Unimat also came in a gray color, I have the head stock of one in that color, it was a red badged SL. The much sought after Rust-o-leum Paint is not a exact match, I have used it for many years. The color on the cap a very close match. But it is slightly lighter and does not have the courser texture that the original paint had. Maybe if you really built it up you might get close to the OEM finish, But I would bet that you would use up nearly a full can to get to that point. I have some photos of some drawers that I painted it and you can see the difference. A few decades ago there was a person online who sold every unimat part that they had and he has on his site a photo of every part, I have that saved some where and I think that you can still find it with the Way Back Machine. I think that he went to college and shut his site down a couple of decades ago. There is a difference in a factory spray job done with commercial spray guns vs a rattle can. I looked up Hammered paint years ago and bought a bunch of 1/2 pint cans at a close out once, The problem is that it uses some stuff that is harder to get in a paint anymore, stuff like Toulene.?
Jeff
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From: Dave Seiter <d.seiter@...> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Mar 24, 2023 1:03 pm Subject: Re: [Unimat] Rustoleum Green Hammered Nice looking!? Sherman Williams makes a "black green", which I really like.??
-Dave
On Friday, March 24, 2023 at 04:01:58 AM PDT, Ruben <groen.drenthe@...> wrote:
Here i have 3 unimat's, all total different tint green.
Because I don't think there is a true tint green, I can choose my own color. Black it is ?
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Re: Rustoleum Green Hammered
Here is a link to the parts section of this old web site.
http://unimatparts.com/parts-unimat.html
Jeff -----Original Message-----
From: Jkle379184 via groups.io <jkle379184@...> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Mar 24, 2023 1:52 pm Subject: Re: [Unimat] Rustoleum Green Hammered Looking at the photos and specs, they had
Cast iron BD200 models, Black Crinkle paint
Cast Iron BD200 "? ? ? ? ? ?,? Hammered Blue
? ? ? ?BD200? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Hammered Green, looks to be a lighter green
And the SL models with their darker Hammered green, But I have one that was also in the Hammered Grey ( Blue)
And I have seen the SL1000 With the Hammered Green that had a slight yellow tint to them and I have seen them with a slight blue tint.
Age and exposure to light can change the colors, long term exposure to flourescent light bleaches the color away.
?Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: Jkle379184 via groups.io <jkle379184@...> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Mar 24, 2023 1:42 pm Subject: Re: [Unimat] Rustoleum Green Hammered Use this link to get to the old site. Once it loads look at the photo and specs of the Unimat at the top. It will change and show all of the models and there colors
https://web.archive.org/web/20160708065223/http://unimatparts.com/parts.html
Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: Jkle379184 via groups.io <jkle379184@...> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Mar 24, 2023 1:31 pm Subject: Re: [Unimat] Rustoleum Green Hammered ?Unimat also came in a gray color, I have the head stock of one in that color, it was a red badged SL. The much sought after Rust-o-leum Paint is not a exact match, I have used it for many years. The color on the cap a very close match. But it is slightly lighter and does not have the courser texture that the original paint had. Maybe if you really built it up you might get close to the OEM finish, But I would bet that you would use up nearly a full can to get to that point. I have some photos of some drawers that I painted it and you can see the difference. A few decades ago there was a person online who sold every unimat part that they had and he has on his site a photo of every part, I have that saved some where and I think that you can still find it with the Way Back Machine. I think that he went to college and shut his site down a couple of decades ago. There is a difference in a factory spray job done with commercial spray guns vs a rattle can. I looked up Hammered paint years ago and bought a bunch of 1/2 pint cans at a close out once, The problem is that it uses some stuff that is harder to get in a paint anymore, stuff like Toulene.?
Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Seiter <d.seiter@...> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Mar 24, 2023 1:03 pm Subject: Re: [Unimat] Rustoleum Green Hammered Nice looking!? Sherman Williams makes a "black green", which I really like.??
-Dave
On Friday, March 24, 2023 at 04:01:58 AM PDT, Ruben <groen.drenthe@...> wrote:
Here i have 3 unimat's, all total different tint green.
Because I don't think there is a true tint green, I can choose my own color. Black it is ?
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Re: Rustoleum Green Hammered
Looking at the photos and specs, they had
Cast iron BD200 models, Black Crinkle paint
Cast Iron BD200 "? ? ? ? ? ?,? Hammered Blue
? ? ? ?BD200? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Hammered Green, looks to be a lighter green
And the SL models with their darker Hammered green, But I have one that was also in the Hammered Grey ( Blue)
And I have seen the SL1000 With the Hammered Green that had a slight yellow tint to them and I have seen them with a slight blue tint.
Age and exposure to light can change the colors, long term exposure to flourescent light bleaches the color away.
?Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: Jkle379184 via groups.io <jkle379184@...> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Mar 24, 2023 1:42 pm Subject: Re: [Unimat] Rustoleum Green Hammered Use this link to get to the old site. Once it loads look at the photo and specs of the Unimat at the top. It will change and show all of the models and there colors
https://web.archive.org/web/20160708065223/http://unimatparts.com/parts.html
Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: Jkle379184 via groups.io <jkle379184@...> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Mar 24, 2023 1:31 pm Subject: Re: [Unimat] Rustoleum Green Hammered ?Unimat also came in a gray color, I have the head stock of one in that color, it was a red badged SL. The much sought after Rust-o-leum Paint is not a exact match, I have used it for many years. The color on the cap a very close match. But it is slightly lighter and does not have the courser texture that the original paint had. Maybe if you really built it up you might get close to the OEM finish, But I would bet that you would use up nearly a full can to get to that point. I have some photos of some drawers that I painted it and you can see the difference. A few decades ago there was a person online who sold every unimat part that they had and he has on his site a photo of every part, I have that saved some where and I think that you can still find it with the Way Back Machine. I think that he went to college and shut his site down a couple of decades ago. There is a difference in a factory spray job done with commercial spray guns vs a rattle can. I looked up Hammered paint years ago and bought a bunch of 1/2 pint cans at a close out once, The problem is that it uses some stuff that is harder to get in a paint anymore, stuff like Toulene.?
Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Seiter <d.seiter@...> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Mar 24, 2023 1:03 pm Subject: Re: [Unimat] Rustoleum Green Hammered Nice looking!? Sherman Williams makes a "black green", which I really like.??
-Dave
On Friday, March 24, 2023 at 04:01:58 AM PDT, Ruben <groen.drenthe@...> wrote:
Here i have 3 unimat's, all total different tint green.
Because I don't think there is a true tint green, I can choose my own color. Black it is ?
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Re: Rustoleum Green Hammered
Use this link to get to the old site. Once it loads look at the photo and specs of the Unimat at the top. It will change and show all of the models and there colors
https://web.archive.org/web/20160708065223/http://unimatparts.com/parts.html
Jeff -----Original Message-----
From: Jkle379184 via groups.io <jkle379184@...> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Mar 24, 2023 1:31 pm Subject: Re: [Unimat] Rustoleum Green Hammered ?Unimat also came in a gray color, I have the head stock of one in that color, it was a red badged SL. The much sought after Rust-o-leum Paint is not a exact match, I have used it for many years. The color on the cap a very close match. But it is slightly lighter and does not have the courser texture that the original paint had. Maybe if you really built it up you might get close to the OEM finish, But I would bet that you would use up nearly a full can to get to that point. I have some photos of some drawers that I painted it and you can see the difference. A few decades ago there was a person online who sold every unimat part that they had and he has on his site a photo of every part, I have that saved some where and I think that you can still find it with the Way Back Machine. I think that he went to college and shut his site down a couple of decades ago. There is a difference in a factory spray job done with commercial spray guns vs a rattle can. I looked up Hammered paint years ago and bought a bunch of 1/2 pint cans at a close out once, The problem is that it uses some stuff that is harder to get in a paint anymore, stuff like Toulene.?
Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Seiter <d.seiter@...> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Mar 24, 2023 1:03 pm Subject: Re: [Unimat] Rustoleum Green Hammered Nice looking!? Sherman Williams makes a "black green", which I really like.??
-Dave
On Friday, March 24, 2023 at 04:01:58 AM PDT, Ruben <groen.drenthe@...> wrote:
Here i have 3 unimat's, all total different tint green.
Because I don't think there is a true tint green, I can choose my own color. Black it is ?
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Re: Rustoleum Green Hammered
?Unimat also came in a gray color, I have the head stock of one in that color, it was a red badged SL. The much sought after Rust-o-leum Paint is not a exact match, I have used it for many years. The color on the cap a very close match. But it is slightly lighter and does not have the courser texture that the original paint had. Maybe if you really built it up you might get close to the OEM finish, But I would bet that you would use up nearly a full can to get to that point. I have some photos of some drawers that I painted it and you can see the difference. A few decades ago there was a person online who sold every unimat part that they had and he has on his site a photo of every part, I have that saved some where and I think that you can still find it with the Way Back Machine. I think that he went to college and shut his site down a couple of decades ago. There is a difference in a factory spray job done with commercial spray guns vs a rattle can. I looked up Hammered paint years ago and bought a bunch of 1/2 pint cans at a close out once, The problem is that it uses some stuff that is harder to get in a paint anymore, stuff like Toulene.? Jeff
-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Seiter <d.seiter@...> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Mar 24, 2023 1:03 pm Subject: Re: [Unimat] Rustoleum Green Hammered Nice looking!? Sherman Williams makes a "black green", which I really like.??
-Dave
On Friday, March 24, 2023 at 04:01:58 AM PDT, Ruben <groen.drenthe@...> wrote:
Here i have 3 unimat's, all total different tint green.
Because I don't think there is a true tint green, I can choose my own color. Black it is ?
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Re: Rustoleum Green Hammered
Nice looking!? Sherman Williams makes a "black green", which I really like.?? -Dave
On Friday, March 24, 2023 at 04:01:58 AM PDT, Ruben <groen.drenthe@...> wrote:
Here i have 3 unimat's, all total different tint green. ? |
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Re: Unimat SL - Vertical column & Headstock Adapter
I've actually never played with rotary broaches.? Maybe I should try making a spare bolt. -Dave
On Friday, March 24, 2023 at 09:06:42 AM PDT, Bill in OKC too via groups.io <wmrmeyers@...> wrote:
That is not lazy, it's smart. Though you should be able to make a rotary broaching tool for the Unimats, as a number of folks have for mini-lathes.? http://mikesworkshop.weebly.com/rotary-broaching.html I'm not sure it would work as well on a Unimat due to the size difference in the machines, but it should work at least for smaller sized broaches. Bill in OKC? William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY! Physics doesn't care about your schedule. The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better. Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Friday, March 24, 2023 at 08:53:49 AM CDT, Carl <carl.blum@...> wrote:
Hello
Dave: I would tap the end M6 and Loktite a M6 SHCS in. I'm lazy like that. Carl. On 3/24/2023 3:09 AM, Dave Seiter
wrote:
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Re: Unimat SL - Vertical column & Headstock Adapter
That is not lazy, it's smart. Though you should be able to make a rotary broaching tool for the Unimats, as a number of folks have for mini-lathes.? http://mikesworkshop.weebly.com/rotary-broaching.html I'm not sure it would work as well on a Unimat due to the size difference in the machines, but it should work at least for smaller sized broaches. Bill in OKC? William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY! Physics doesn't care about your schedule. The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better. Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Friday, March 24, 2023 at 08:53:49 AM CDT, Carl <carl.blum@...> wrote:
Hello
Dave: I would tap the end M6 and Loktite a M6 SHCS in. I'm lazy like that. Carl. On 3/24/2023 3:09 AM, Dave Seiter
wrote:
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Ruben
Bill in OKC too