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Re: Unimat watchmakers drawbar

 

WW collets are .275-40 threads.
In metric that would be M7-1.0.
That is the same for WW and Moseley collets.? Be careful because ebay sells what they call WW and they are Conoid.
That is a swooping radius instead of a chamfer on the outside.
The WW works on a conoid spindle but a conoid does not work on a WW spindle.
I have conoid collets and they do not work on my Sherline.
I can measure my sherline drawbar.? Pretty sure its too short.

The Sherline collets alone are a good value.


On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 2:55?PM Ruben <groen.drenthe@...> wrote:
Collets are on the way.
For me it is not clear how long the Sherline drawbar is.
Also the thread is not metric like the collets I bought.


Re: Unimat watchmakers drawbar

 

Collets are on the way.
For me it is not clear how long the Sherline drawbar is.
Also the thread is not metric like the collets I bought.


Re: Unimat watchmakers drawbar

 

The drawbars I found are to short.


Re: Unimat watchmakers drawbar

 

I had the same issue.? I found on ebay a universal drawbar that worked quite well.? ?


Re: Unimat watchmakers drawbar

 




Above is an Ebay link to a $40 drawbar for a Levin lathe with 84mm draw bar length.? You would need a collet to figure out if the length can work for you.
Also Sherline has a set of drawbar and collets for like $110.? I have this set for my Sherline.? It is nice quality ww collets.

If I were further along in my project I could be more helpful.? But my schedule.......its complicated.


On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 8:52?AM Ruben <groen.drenthe@...> wrote:
I have the watchmakers spindle here without drawbar.
Is here some one who want to share the dimensions of rhe drawbar or has a drawing?
in the files section is nothing useful to find about this part


Re: Unimat watchmakers drawbar

 

With the spindle and a collet or two, you should be able to make your own drawings...? ?This link has a good photo of a watchmaker's collet:?? Says the thread is M7 x 0.75mm and you'd need to figure out how long the threaded section is, diameter of the collet at various locations along it's length, and the taper angle... Also the length of the spindle,? It's gonna be fiddley work, but doable. If you have a collet of your own to compare, you can get those numbers from your collet, no matter what diameter stock it's made for. Here's an example from AliExpress:??to look at. It's a hollow tube with internal threads at the business end. Yours wouldn't have to be an exact copy of that one. A couple of WW drawbars on ebay here:??I searched with Unimat as the first term, but didn't get anything specific to the Unimat. M7 x 0.75 taps and dies on ebay:?? just in case...

And here is a spindle with drawbar on ebay.ca, with photos you can download to help you figure it out!?

If nothing else, figuring it out will keep you busy and out of the bars for at least a few days! ;) I didn't save the link, but I saw a set of 20 8mm watchmaker's collets for under $20 on Banggood or AliExpress. Not betting they're any good, but they could be...

Give it a shot! You have nothing to lose, and could learn something from trying, even if you fail more than once!

Bill in OKC

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Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.?
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On Tuesday, May 2, 2023 at 07:52:05 AM CDT, Ruben <groen.drenthe@...> wrote:


I have the watchmakers spindle here without drawbar.
Is here some one who want to share the dimensions of rhe drawbar or has a drawing?
in the files section is nothing useful to find about this part


Re: Unimat watchmakers drawbar

 




The links above are for stainless steel tubing and a tap for WW collets.? Copy and paste.
The taps are unusual and do appear on ebay regularly.? Be careful when buying the taps (and dies).
They appear under the correct size heading .275-40 but in the description say different things like 4-40 or
1/4-20 etc.? This is how some import companies get around being able to send you the wrong thing.
Just fyi.
The tubing may be able to be tapped as is, but I have not taken the time yet to get into it.

The stainless tube may need to be slightly drilled or bored or reamed to not work the tap too hard.
The collets engage a lot of thread and even 50% engagement should work fine.

I was lucky enough to have purchased a used db200 that was reamed out to just over 5/16" so that tubing slips through perfect.
I am turning a brass nose for my regular spindle to accommodate my WW and Moseley conoid collets.

I plan to make a draw bar and turn an aluminum or brass knob for the end and superglue in place (or loctite green)

Hope this helps.



On Tue, May 2, 2023 at 8:52?AM Ruben <groen.drenthe@...> wrote:
I have the watchmakers spindle here without drawbar.
Is here some one who want to share the dimensions of rhe drawbar or has a drawing?
in the files section is nothing useful to find about this part


Unimat watchmakers drawbar

 

I have the watchmakers spindle here without drawbar.
Is here some one who want to share the dimensions of rhe drawbar or has a drawing?
in the files section is nothing useful to find about this part


Re: Projects Built on the Unimat?

 

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Hi Gang:

Here is a gear from a HO locomotive. The shaft splits the plastic, so I turned and press on collars to close the split:

Good luck, Carl.



Re: Projects Built on the Unimat?

 

One of the most useful parts for me to use on my SL are a set of fittings for a collet chuck with M12 x 1 fitting to hold small screws to shorten them and make dome headed screws for my clock repair work.
I first made a split collet with a 15 deg taper each end to hold 3mm rod, I then went onto a 3 piece with a mid and nose section that I can change size to suit bolt head and bore from 2mm through to 6mm poke the screw through then tighten the nut to hold, also a set of mid sections threaded out to screw the bolt into so as not to damage threads whilst I am doming the heads and slitting, I am currently making a set of collet mid and ends to hold 1mm and less screws.
For the tail stock end I am drawing up to make a sliding tap and die holder for the 2mm and less.
I am having as much fun making these parts as I am doing the clockwork.

Phill?


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Re: Projects Built on the Unimat?

 

I use mine mostly for model railway work; turning chimneys and domes, bearings, wheels etc., as well as odd jobs like repairing my wife's knitting needles after the dog chewed the pointed ends. All detailed here:?

Paul B. from the UK.


Re: Projects Built on the Unimat?

 

Just built this Collet Chuck for a friend after i cleaned up his rusty dusty U3.
All done on the Unimat 3 except the M14x1 Tap and?my Thread cutting setup and top?slide from my lathe.
I purchased the Collet Nut and Collet to fit his slotcar armatures.
Runout is less than 0.01mm or 4/10000" I'm happy.


Re: Projects Built on the Unimat?

 

One of the odder things I've used the Unimat for; It's a hub puller for my Italian-made surface grinder.? Had a weird metric thread that I couldn't do on my larger lathes.? The work was turned by hand, not under power.

-Dave


Re: Projects Built on the Unimat?

 

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Great job. ?The important thing is that you are actually using your machine and learning in the process.


On May 1, 2023, at 10:23 PM, Steve Johnson <steve@...> wrote:

I'm a relative noob, so my contribution will be small. I'm in the process of building a new micro shop where I will permanently setup the Unimats, and then I hope to make some more interesting stuff.

So far, I've only machined some small bushings out of delrin for a steerable tailwheel swivel for a small foam r/c plane. Nothing sexy, but it is working great!

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On May 1, 2023, at 8:11 PM, OldToolmaker via <old_toolmaker@...> wrote:

Would anyone care to share what they have built on the Unimat?
Dick
--
forum/?OFF-SET-tailstock-center-65965#post105972
?SMALL TURRET TOOL POST PLANS?
?LARGE TURRET TOOL POST PLANS
?MINI-LATHE CARRIAGE LOCK PLANS
?SMALL QC TOOL POST PLANS?
?QUICK CHANGE LATHE TURRET
?MINI LATHE COMPOUND PIVOT MODIFICATION



Re: Projects Built on the Unimat?

 

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I'm a relative noob, so my contribution will be small. I'm in the process of building a new micro shop where I will permanently setup the Unimats, and then I hope to make some more interesting stuff.

So far, I've only machined some small bushings out of delrin for a steerable tailwheel swivel for a small foam r/c plane. Nothing sexy, but it is working great!



On May 1, 2023, at 8:11 PM, OldToolmaker via <old_toolmaker@...> wrote:

Would anyone care to share what they have built on the Unimat?
Dick
--
forum/?OFF-SET-tailstock-center-65965#post105972
?SMALL TURRET TOOL POST PLANS?
?LARGE TURRET TOOL POST PLANS
?MINI-LATHE CARRIAGE LOCK PLANS
?SMALL QC TOOL POST PLANS?
?QUICK CHANGE LATHE TURRET
?MINI LATHE COMPOUND PIVOT MODIFICATION


Projects Built on the Unimat?

 

Would anyone care to share what they have built on the Unimat?
Dick
--
http://www.homemadetools.net/forum/?OFF-SET-tailstock-center-65965#post105972
?SMALL TURRET TOOL POST PLANS?
?LARGE TURRET TOOL POST PLANS
?MINI-LATHE CARRIAGE LOCK PLANS
?SMALL QC TOOL POST PLANS?
?QUICK CHANGE LATHE TURRET
?MINI LATHE COMPOUND PIVOT MODIFICATION


Re: Jig saw and sabre saw db200

 

The image you supplied is the Unimat 1080 fret saw attachment.
I presume the OP can choose which he wants depending on his needs.
Of course if he is not buying to expand his Unimat collection he could just buy a dedicated tabletop scroll saw which has a bigger (16") throat for less money.


Re: Jig saw and sabre saw db200

 

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Ah. ?We are at cross purposes. ?I was describing the jigsaw, eg. ?P1010587.jpg

(Picture copied off the web).


On 1 May 2023, at 21:49, Richard Burrows <bluerandonee@...> wrote:

?the Unimat 1070 scroll saw attachment does have a tension spring... and can use scroll saw blades.
Emco Unimat Laubs?ge-Einrichtung - YouTube


Re: Jig saw and sabre saw db200

 

the Unimat 1070 scroll saw attachment does have a tension spring... and can use scroll saw blades.
Emco Unimat Laubs?ge-Einrichtung - YouTube


Re: Jig saw and sabre saw db200

 

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I think we are probably at crossed purposes here. ?The point is that any blade for the Unimat jigsaw will have to be fairly stiff to work. ?There is no mechanism for tensioning the blade, unlike a with jeweller’s/piercing saw.


On 1 May 2023, at 20:37, Richard Burrows <bluerandonee@...> wrote:

?I have the round cast iron table, return arm and drive cam for the 1070 scroll saw attachment but I a am missing the table support and drive parts,maybe someday I'll find the parts to make it complete.

I presume standard 5" scroll saw blades can be used on the Unimat DB/SL scroll saw. I have used them to cut wood, plastic and non ferrous metal on my full sized scroll saw.
You must not run the saw so fast that the spring tension does not have time to pull the blade up on the return stroke, the blade must remain under tension at all times or it will flex and break.
Let the saw do the cutting, do not apply too feed much pressure on the blade, too much pressure can cause the blade to flex and cut in an arc giving poor results on thicker material not to mention overheating the blade causing premature dulling and/or breakage.

A bit of a primer on choosing scroll saw blades can be found here:

Richard B.