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Re: Show us yer boring tools!

 

Thanks Tamra for the replies and the detail, that's useful.

I've bought a small diamond cup wheel specifically for this (I'll try it on the U3 spindle), but also have a grinder from my woodworking days - one side has a normal wheel, the other with a larger whetstone that runs in a water trough. To be honest I hardly ever used the whetstone as it was soooo slow... I thought the 'normal' side would maybe a bit too fierce, it is quite course for small items.

I'd rather drill than bore but have a cheapo made-in-China drill press that I have had for years. It's solid enough and has served me well but the spindle has a fair amount of play in it (it's on the list for examination and 'improvement' if possible). If I was aiming for a 13mm hole (to tap M14 to fit on the U3 spindle) I wouldn't want to go larger than 11mm on the drill press, and I'd bore the rest on the U3. Which is... kinda boring... ha ha.

They do say though that a tool ground to the correct angles is better than the indexable carbide insert tools (which I guess must be more of a 'one size fits all' option), so learning to sharpen generally is a good endeavour I think.

(The carbide insert boring bar has those trapezoid shaped cutting parts that fix with a tiny bolt, I don't know if you can sharpen those? I think they are just replaceable).


Re: Show us yer boring tools!

 

>>I have a small carbide insert boring bar and I swear it is just scraping the wall sometimes!

Did you try sharpening it?

Tamra


Re: Show us yer boring tools!

 

I haven't made a boring tool, I usually buy my tool bits, with the exception of 1/12th scale turnings.
It is easier to grind the tool bit for micro turnings using a? 1/8" tool bit and stacking two of them to
get to the center height.? You are removing less material at the grinder.

I'm using an ordinary bench grinder that has the wire polishing wheel on one side and abrasive disk on the right.
I clamp a board on the left side of the rest to eliminate the gap issue and that stupid side " angled pocket" that I'm
assuming is there to?sharpen a chisel at a specific angle.??

If you want them to look pretty, it is all in the movement, or not moving, because you will create facets that are not
necessarily pretty.? You can always file anything that isn't pretty out by hand with metal file, but I would likely not file
them unless?I was trying to impress someone or specifically to disquise my lack of skill.? I grind a couple of them at
a time, dip?in tap water as they get hot, and polish them on the wire wheel if they get discolored and then test them
and fine tune?the relief depending on what I'm turning.? If they get too hot, you will lose your temper.? I don't wear gloves
so I can feel if the tool steel is getting too warm.??

There is a lot of info on relief required for different metals in your grind.? Buying a set from Sherline or other vendors
and not altering them or using them can help you see the relief for their specs for what they are selling.

I found the information on (ahem) Sherline's website to be very helpful.



These used to cost about $2 - $2.50 at MSC direct, the distribution center is pretty close.
Current cost is $3.68.??

If you find some used tool bits on facebook marketplace, you can practice grinding.


I edited one of these last weekend, will try it today, as I'm trying to learn
how to machine round 1/8" balls on my taig radius turner.

I usually drill, I've not once found a need to bore anything... it is likely I would
buy that tool bit.

Tamra


Unimat SL1000 for sale

 

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Unimat SL1000 for sale
$700 complete
No shipping

I live in Naperville, west of Chicago, and it¡¯s available for pickup.
Photos available at ¡°Carl¡¯s Unimat¡± as a photo album.

If interested please contact me off-list.

I was given the Unimat as a Christmas gift in 1972 and it has been used but not abused!!? I used it in conjunction with my model railroading hobby, streetcars and interurbans in HO and O scale.? I¡¯m getting on in age and my wife tells me I must downsize!!

I have the original box, but I modified it years ago so that a mounting board would sit on top of the box, placing the lathe higher and more convenient to use.? The current mounting board is two 3/4 inch plywood sheets glued and screw together and fits inside the box.? The edges are multi-coated with varnish and the top has a grey Formica covering.

Included are:
Unimat lathe with motor and electronic speed control
tailstock with locking attachments
3-jaw chuck
4-jaw chuck
ER-16 collet chuck, NO collets
drill chuck
face plate
micrometer stop mounted on the waybars
Unimat threading chasing attachment with two thread followers, 20/inch, and 1 mm
dead centers
live center
Unimat vice
threaded adapters for mounting chucks to cross slide or milling table
grinding wheel arbor
Unimat milling table
Unimat tool post
Unimat lantern tool post
Unimat milling column with headstock mounting casting and mounting base (unfinished)
extra drive belts
headstock spindle rebuild kit.? Purchased "just in case".
"Unimat Buddy" -? aligns the head and tail stocks
11mm drill bit and 12x1mm tap
6mm tap
assorted 6mm socket screws and tee-nuts
1/4 inch tool bits
original manual and catalogs



Re: Please, show pictures of how you attach dial indicator to Unimat DB/SL.

 

My pics are in the photos section under Bruces Unimat.? Have fun? Stl or Fusion 360 files are available if anybody whant them....


Re: Please, show pictures of how you attach dial indicator to Unimat DB/SL.

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Oh, that makes sense now.

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From: McKee, Don {Quaker} <donmckee@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2023 1:19:21 PM
To: Andrei <calciu1@...>; [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Unimat] Please, show pictures of how you attach dial indicator to Unimat DB/SL.
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I think he was talking about the extended 8mm cross-slide guide rails in the picture that are used to mount the dial indicator, not the 12mm main rails.


Re: Please, show pictures of how you attach dial indicator to Unimat DB/SL.

 

I think he was talking about the extended 8mm cross-slide guide rails in the picture that are used to mount the dial indicator, not the 12mm main rails.


Re: How to mount faceplate to spindle? Screw directly or mount on backplate?

 

You will want a small relief the length of the shoulder on the spindle.


Re: Please, show pictures of how you attach dial indicator to Unimat DB/SL.

Andrei
 

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Aren't the guides 12mm? going down to 8mm will turn it into a spaghetti lathe...


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Bill in OKC too via groups.io <wmrmeyers@...>
Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2023 12:10 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Unimat] Please, show pictures of how you attach dial indicator to Unimat DB/SL.
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Wish I'd seen these before I cut down the 8mm linear guide rod I used to replace the rails on my carriage...? But I do still have one Unimat that hasn't gotten the new rails yet. So all is not lost!?

Bill in OKC

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)

Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.?
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better.
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.



On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 10:54:25 AM CDT, Quinn Golden <quinngolden@...> wrote:



Re: Please, show pictures of how you attach dial indicator to Unimat DB/SL.

 

Wish I'd seen these before I cut down the 8mm linear guide rod I used to replace the rails on my carriage...? But I do still have one Unimat that hasn't gotten the new rails yet. So all is not lost!?

Bill in OKC

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)

Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.?
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better.
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.



On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 10:54:25 AM CDT, Quinn Golden <quinngolden@...> wrote:



Re: Toms Tool Store down?

 

Instead of this farting around with emails, can't someone just call him?


Re: Toms Tool Store down?

 


I sent an email inquiry in March of this year and never heard back.
That was the?first time I tried to communicate with him about?anything. I am not sure what happened to him.
Please let us all know if any one learns more.
Eric


On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 12:02?AM Jkle379184 via <jkle379184=[email protected]> wrote:
According to the way Back internet time machine the last time that his site was used was November 30th 2022. That is not good. So anyone know what happened to him or his parts?
?Jeff

On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:58:45 PM EDT, Jkle379184 via <jkle379184=[email protected]> wrote:


Too bad, he had a lot of nice unimat stuff and was always a source for the odd stuff and a fast shipper. Is he still around?
?Jeff

On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:49:55 PM EDT, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:


Dead and burried

Get

From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jkle379184 via <jkle379184=[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2023 11:45:32 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [Unimat] Toms Tool Store down?
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Any one know what has happened to Toms tool Store??
His site had been down for a while with a under maintaince sign.
?Jeff


Re: Show us yer boring tools!

 

Ha ha, that¡¯s quite a collection :-)

Have you tried them all? (!) ? Any favourites?


Re: Toms Tool Store down?

 

According to the way Back internet time machine the last time that his site was used was November 30th 2022. That is not good. So anyone know what happened to him or his parts?
?Jeff

On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:58:45 PM EDT, Jkle379184 via groups.io <jkle379184@...> wrote:


Too bad, he had a lot of nice unimat stuff and was always a source for the odd stuff and a fast shipper. Is he still around?
?Jeff

On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:49:55 PM EDT, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:


Dead and burried

Get


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jkle379184 via groups.io <jkle379184@...>
Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2023 11:45:32 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [Unimat] Toms Tool Store down?
?
Any one know what has happened to Toms tool Store??
His site had been down for a while with a under maintaince sign.
?Jeff


Re: Toms Tool Store down?

 

Too bad, he had a lot of nice unimat stuff and was always a source for the odd stuff and a fast shipper. Is he still around?
?Jeff

On Wednesday, August 2, 2023 at 11:49:55 PM EDT, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:


Dead and burried

Get


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jkle379184 via groups.io <jkle379184@...>
Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2023 11:45:32 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [Unimat] Toms Tool Store down?
?
Any one know what has happened to Toms tool Store??
His site had been down for a while with a under maintaince sign.
?Jeff


Re: Toms Tool Store down?

Andrei
 

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Dead and burried

Get


From: [email protected] <[email protected]> on behalf of Jkle379184 via groups.io <jkle379184@...>
Sent: Wednesday, August 2, 2023 11:45:32 PM
To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
Subject: [Unimat] Toms Tool Store down?
?
Any one know what has happened to Toms tool Store??
His site had been down for a while with a under maintaince sign.
?Jeff


Toms Tool Store down?

 

Any one know what has happened to Toms tool Store??
His site had been down for a while with a under maintaince sign.
?Jeff


Re: Tommy bars

 

The hole in my spindle is mangled. I made this crude little? aluminium wrench. Next time I'll leave more material for the handle.?


Please, show pictures of how you attach dial indicator to Unimat DB/SL.

 

I'm learning to set up my machine and would welcome pictures of how you attach dial indicators to it (both for lathe and mill structure).?
Thank you!?


How to mount faceplate to spindle? Screw directly or mount on backplate?

 

Drawing below shows faceplate being screwed directly.
If so, should I leave relief or can I thread the whole length of the center hole??