Re: tailstock end of Unimat alloy bed...
The original meaning of the word connoted just onwards in time or in space, for example “the illness progressed until he died”. ? Perhaps the more apt quote for our times might be “ The computerization of all things progressed until the creation of Artificial Intelligence”.
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On Jul 6, 2023, at 1:09 PM, Jeffrey Kropp <jeffreykropp1@ example “the cancer progmail.com> wrote: Er
? ? ?Progress used to be considered a positive thing.? These days, I'm not so sure;? at best "progress" is now a mixed bag.....
Hello
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thought this was insightful: A
reasonable person adapts to the world. An
unreasonable person expects the world to adapt to them. Therefor
all progress depends on unreasonable people. Carl.
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Andrei,
If we all carried that same attitude there would be no such thing
as innovation and we would still be living in the Dark Ages.
History has shown us the value of continuing improvement in all
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? ? ?Progress used to be considered a positive thing.? These days, I'm not so sure;? at best "progress" is now a mixed bag.....
Hello
All:
I
thought this was insightful:
A
reasonable person adapts to the world.
An
unreasonable person expects the world to adapt to them.
Therefor
all progress depends on unreasonable people.
Carl.
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Andrei,
If we all carried that same attitude there would be no such thing
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History has shown us the value of continuing improvement in all
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That is a logical fallacy.?
The person who innovates adapts itself to the world and is not unreasonable. The one who does nothing and does not adapt at all will become extinct.?
How many Neanderthals are still around? None, because they did not adapt to the world.?
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Hello All:
I thought this was insightful:
A reasonable person adapts to the world.
An unreasonable person expects the world to adapt to them.
Therefor all progress depends on unreasonable people.
Carl.
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Andrei,
If we all carried that same attitude there would be no such thing as innovation and we would still be living in the Dark Ages. History has shown us the value of continuing improvement in all aspects of our lives.
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Hello
All:
I
thought this was insightful:
A
reasonable person adapts to the world.
An
unreasonable person expects the world to adapt to them.
Therefor
all progress depends on unreasonable people.
Carl.
On 7/6/2023 9:28 AM, OldToolmaker via
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Andrei,
If we all carried that same attitude there would be no such thing
as innovation and we would still be living in the Dark Ages.
History has shown us the value of continuing improvement in all
aspects of our lives.
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Many or most of us like to tinker or experiment.
However, Andrei's statements are correct the majority of time.
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Andrei,
If we all carried that same attitude there would be no such thing as innovation and we would still be living in the Dark Ages. History has shown us the value of continuing improvement in all aspects of our lives.
Dick
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Good luck. ? ?Let us know what you find. ? ?
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Re: Another Unimat SL listed on Shop Goodwill
A word about communicating to such seller about how to pack...
At Doug Feistamel's site here:
He has a comment "SPECIAL NOTE:? Shipping the Unimat".
He points out that a lot get damaged in shipping because they were safely disassembled and packed when new, but when assembled bad things can happen.
Doug suggests telling the seller to disassemble it to ship it like it was intended to be shpiped.? I doubt very many sellers will really want to do that even if asked.? However, it might be a good idea to at least tell them to pack it so tightly that it CANNOT move.? Because if it can, when handwheels and such strike something, like the inside of a wooden box, the machine will get damaged.
Charles E. "Chuck" Kinzer
On Tuesday, July 4, 2023 at 09:41:39 PM PDT, Richard Burrows <bluerandonee@...> wrote:
Another Unimat SL has been listed on Shop Goodwill.
It looks like the original accessories are included and also a dividing heads with plates.
URL:
https://shopgoodwill.com/item/170928736
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Another Unimat SL listed on Shop Goodwill
Another Unimat SL has been listed on Shop Goodwill.
It looks like the original accessories are included and also a dividing heads with plates.
URL:
https://shopgoodwill.com/item/170928736
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Rustoleum Green Hammertone spray paint
I found a source of Rustoleum Hammertone green spray paint in a can! I will see if it available in my local store. The store is regional in the Midwest.
Dick
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No, you are not missing anything. It is just that some of us like to tinker with things and experiment with ideas.
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Re: tailstock end of Unimat alloy bed...
Back in the Day, Tom's Tool Store used to sell a kit with the extended ways and a cut off tail stock section. I think it was mostly extended for wood working and not metal. We sometimes forget the they offered a lot of model building and wood working accessories for the unimat, Table saw (2 versions), Wood lathe rests (2), Lathe dog, Lathe tools,Jig saw(2) Planer, Shaper etc. ?Jeff
On Monday, July 3, 2023 at 01:36:50 PM EDT, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:
Is this such a dire need in the Unimat world??
I mean, it is a tiny lathe, meant to make tiny things. For big stuff, just use a bigger lathe. To me, it makes sense.?
Am I missing?something?
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arguably, one could accomplish a similar result using the extra-long Unimat accessory way bars and place the tailstock on the other side of the end-of-bed.
-Guy-
On June 30, 2023 at 8:22 PM "OldToolmaker via groups.io" <old_toolmaker@...> wrote:
Hello, Bill
I have often had thoughts of making two rectangular blocks from cast iron with two “v” grooves to make my own extended Unimat clone. With this arrangement the bed bed length can be varied to suit at will depending upon how far apart the blocks are placed. No
need to cut up a perfectly good SL. I have made several sets sets of way bars from Thomson linear precision ground and hard chrome plated. I made a special fixture for drilling the cross holes with carbide spade drills to bolt down the way bars. I will probably
follow though with this as soon as I get my shop relocated and set up.
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Nope, not a big thing. Just fiddling with some ideas. And may have gone overboard with the 600mm guide rod. But it will go nicely in the scrap pile, if it doesn't work.?
Bill in OKC
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On Monday, July 3, 2023 at 12:36:50 PM CDT, Andrei <calciu1@...> wrote:
Is this such a dire need in the Unimat world??
I mean, it is a tiny lathe, meant to make tiny things. For big stuff, just use a bigger lathe. To me, it makes sense.?
Am I missing?something?
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?
arguably, one could accomplish a similar result using the extra-long Unimat accessory way bars and place the tailstock on the other side of the end-of-bed.
-Guy-
On June 30, 2023 at 8:22 PM "OldToolmaker via groups.io" <old_toolmaker@...> wrote:
Hello, Bill
I have often had thoughts of making two rectangular blocks from cast iron with two “v” grooves to make my own extended Unimat clone. With this arrangement the bed bed length can be varied to suit at will depending upon how far apart the blocks are placed. No
need to cut up a perfectly good SL. I have made several sets sets of way bars from Thomson linear precision ground and hard chrome plated. I made a special fixture for drilling the cross holes with carbide spade drills to bolt down the way bars. I will probably
follow though with this as soon as I get my shop relocated and set up.
Dick
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I don't have, nor have I ever seen the extended way bars? from Emco, but I made a replacement set of way bars from chromed 12mm linear guide rod, and cut them down to match the original way bars for the 1st Unimat. I've got a pair of 600mm long, 12mm? linear guide rods coming. Should be here Wednesday. I'm not going to be using the full length, I don't believe, but it won't hurt me to have a bit more stock for my pile, either. I believe I'll see if I can get 12" between centers. IIRC, I used 300mm linear guide rods for the stock-sized ways. Just using extended way bars hanging out loose at the end might be OK, but I knew where a cut down bed was, more or less, and it's on it's way, too. They're maybe not as rare as I thought, but they're not in production anymore, either, so didn't want to cut another one down. Photo I took of my SL after I fit the new way bars to it, and before I cut them down I could move the ends of the bars pretty easily. For just parking the tailstock, that's probably alright, but I'd like to be able to use it, if possible. Still might not work. As Andrei noted, the 12mm way bars aren't the most rigid things in the world.?
So we'll see if it's practical. And if not, I've got spiffy new way bars on the DB, as well, and it didn't cost me a great deal to figure things out.?
Bill in OKC
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On Monday, July 3, 2023 at 12:25:09 PM CDT, Guy Winton <kooldude@...> wrote:
arguably, one could accomplish a similar result using the extra-long Unimat accessory way bars and place the tailstock on the other side of the end-of-bed.
-Guy-
On June 30, 2023 at 8:22 PM "OldToolmaker via groups.io" <old_toolmaker@...> wrote:
Hello, Bill
I have often had thoughts of making two rectangular blocks from cast iron with two “v” grooves to make my own extended Unimat clone. With this arrangement the bed bed length can be varied to suit at will depending upon how far apart the blocks are placed. No need to cut up a perfectly good SL. I have made several sets sets of way bars from Thomson linear precision ground and hard chrome plated. I made a special fixture for drilling the cross holes with carbide spade drills to bolt down the way bars. I will probably follow though with this as soon as I get my shop relocated and set up.
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In my world, better is the enemy of good enough.?
Many an opportunity or resource is wasted to try and better something that worked just fine the day before.?
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It is just about options.
I have a 7X16 minilathe for larger work.?
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It is just about options.
I have a 7X16 minilathe for larger work.?
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Re: tailstock end of Unimat alloy bed...
Is this such a dire need in the Unimat world??
I mean, it is a tiny lathe, meant to make tiny things. For big stuff, just use a bigger lathe. To me, it makes sense.?
Am I missing?something?
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arguably, one could accomplish a similar result using the extra-long Unimat accessory way bars and place the tailstock on the other side of the end-of-bed.
-Guy-
On June 30, 2023 at 8:22 PM "OldToolmaker via groups.io" <old_toolmaker@...> wrote:
Hello, Bill
I have often had thoughts of making two rectangular blocks from cast iron with two “v” grooves to make my own extended Unimat clone. With this arrangement the bed bed length can be varied to suit at will depending upon how far apart the blocks are placed. No
need to cut up a perfectly good SL. I have made several sets sets of way bars from Thomson linear precision ground and hard chrome plated. I made a special fixture for drilling the cross holes with carbide spade drills to bolt down the way bars. I will probably
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Dick
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arguably, one could accomplish a similar result using the extra-long Unimat accessory way bars and place the tailstock on the other side of the end-of-bed.
-Guy-
On June 30, 2023 at 8:22 PM "OldToolmaker via groups.io" <old_toolmaker@...> wrote:
Hello, Bill
I have often had thoughts of making two rectangular blocks from cast iron with two “v” grooves to make my own extended Unimat clone. With this arrangement the bed bed length can be varied to suit at will depending upon how far apart the blocks are placed. No need to cut up a perfectly good SL. I have made several sets sets of way bars from Thomson linear precision ground and hard chrome plated. I made a special fixture for drilling the cross holes with carbide spade drills to bolt down the way bars. I will probably follow though with this as soon as I get my shop relocated and set up.
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