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Re: Dumb question dept.
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýHi Gang: Send me your dumb questions. I have all the dumb answers! Ha Ha. Sincerely,
Carl. On 3/26/2023 10:33 PM, OldToolmaker via
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Re: Dumb question dept: Email photos
Not in a group that was established to help others share a fascinating and interesting and just plain fun hobby! Bill in OKC William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY! Physics doesn't care about your schedule. The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better. Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Sunday, March 26, 2023 at 09:33:37 PM CDT, OldToolmaker via groups.io <old_toolmaker@...> wrote:
There is no such thing as a dumb question! Never was and never will be!
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Re: Dumb question dept: Email photos
emailed photos in the photos section are not directly linked to the emails. What they are linked to is the poster's name, and that name is linked to the emails he/she/they/it have sent. For example, I looked at the emails photos and found one that shows a Unimat sitting on top of a Uni box with stuff around it, including a box to the left, where you can see part of the tailstock end of another Unimat, and to the right the end of another box. Photo name is SAM_1224_3_.JPG Click on it, it shows three Unimats on boxes surrounded by a bunch of other Uni stuff. Info below the photo shows the name James Quick highlighted in blue. Click on that, and it shows his directory entry. Below that, click on "All Messages By This Member" (also highlighted in blue). That will get you all the messages he's sent. Happens to be four in this case.? HTH! Bill in OKC William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY! Physics doesn't care about your schedule. The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better. Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Saturday, March 25, 2023 at 10:30:03 PM CDT, Dave W <fahrwud@...> wrote:
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Dumb question dept: Email photos
My steam-powered brain has some silicon chip-related challenges: |
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Re: Rustoleum Green Hammered
I've posted this solution previously: ?
Sherwin Williams Industrial paint stores will MATCH the Unimat color in Hammer-Tone finishes. ?This is the REAL DEAL, in that it's truly machine paint. ? Years past, they'd sell as little as a pint of the matched paint, but I THINK, they've raised it to a quart. They also have an excellent machine primer, which really helps prevent chipping. ?I've refinished perhaps 20 Unimats using their matched colors, I have THREE different colors, which are indicative of the change in the colors over the years. ?ALL my painting supplies are in a warehouse at present, so I can't offer any additional detail. ?When I restore a Unimat, I use the most representative paint found on the project and spray it on with a finishing spray gun or sometimes an air brush. ?I ALWAYS USE A PRIMER, IRRESPECTIVE OF THE CLAIMED FEATURE OF "NO PRIMER REQUIRED". ?Trust me, it improves the durability. Best of luck with your projects. ? BTW, I hope to extract all my Unimat stuff from the warehouse over the next 2 months. ?I'll have no less than 1 dozen machines for sale. ?Watch this space... -- Steve Jaynes Unimat owner/collector since 1995, all generations. |
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Rustoleum Green Hammered
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýOops sorry premature send!?I recently purchased a second base off ebay and it is more yellow than my gray motor sl. Best Regards John Begin forwarded message: From: John Entwistle <jentwistle3@...> Date: March 25, 2023 at 2:11:32 PM EDT To: [email protected], quickj@... Subject: Re: [Unimat] Rustoleum Green Hammered ? Best Regards John On Mar 25, 2023, at 12:06 AM, James Quick <quickj@...> wrote:
? <SAM_1224 _3_.JPG> Here are 3 of my Unimats.? The 2 on the right are all original paint.? The one on the left is one I refinished.? On that one I originally repainted it with Verde Green rustolium, but it didn't come close to matching the motor which is still original paint.? I redid it with Rosemary Rustolium which is very very close.? All 4 of my Unimats are slightly different shades, and none of them match each other.? Verde Green turned out to be the correct color for my Wilton Bullet machinists Vise. |
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Re: Rustoleum Green Hammered
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On Mar 25, 2023, at 12:06 AM, James Quick <quickj@...> wrote:
? <SAM_1224 _3_.JPG> Here are 3 of my Unimats.? The 2 on the right are all original paint.? The one on the left is one I refinished.? On that one I originally repainted it with Verde Green rustolium, but it didn't come close to matching the motor which is still original paint.? I redid it with Rosemary Rustolium which is very very close.? All 4 of my Unimats are slightly different shades, and none of them match each other.? Verde Green turned out to be the correct color for my Wilton Bullet machinists Vise. |
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Re: Rustoleum Green Hammered
Here are 3 of my Unimats.? The 2 on the right are all original paint.? The one on the left is one I refinished.? On that one I originally repainted it with Verde Green rustolium, but it didn't come close to matching the motor which is still original paint.? I redid it with Rosemary Rustolium which is very very close.? All 4 of my Unimats are slightly different shades, and none of them match each other.? Verde Green turned out to be the correct color for my Wilton Bullet machinists Vise. |
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Re: Unimat SL - Vertical column & Headstock Adapter
I had forgotten that Hemingway had a kit for that.? It's been years since I've built a kit of any kind, so I decided to buy one.? A bit pricey for overseas shipping, but nothing is cheap these days!? It will force me to start selling off items that are in front of my main lathe and mill. -Dave
On Friday, March 24, 2023 at 02:03:08 PM PDT, Bill in OKC too via groups.io <wmrmeyers@...> wrote:
I haven't either. But know (of ) some folks who have, like the Mike of the link I provided. For those who live in the UK, you can buy a kit to make a rotary broaching tool from Hemingway.?? Might be a bit too large for a Unimat. Should be just about right for a Myford.? Bill in OKC William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY! Physics doesn't care about your schedule. The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better. Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Friday, March 24, 2023 at 11:57:50 AM CDT, Dave Seiter <d.seiter@...> wrote:
I've actually never played with rotary broaches.? Maybe I should try making a spare bolt. -Dave
On Friday, March 24, 2023 at 09:06:42 AM PDT, Bill in OKC too via groups.io <wmrmeyers@...> wrote:
That is not lazy, it's smart. Though you should be able to make a rotary broaching tool for the Unimats, as a number of folks have for mini-lathes.? http://mikesworkshop.weebly.com/rotary-broaching.html I'm not sure it would work as well on a Unimat due to the size difference in the machines, but it should work at least for smaller sized broaches. Bill in OKC? William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.) Aphorisms to live by: Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.? SEMPER GUMBY! Physics doesn't care about your schedule. The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better. Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.
On Friday, March 24, 2023 at 08:53:49 AM CDT, Carl <carl.blum@...> wrote:
Hello
Dave: I would tap the end M6 and Loktite a M6 SHCS in. I'm lazy like that. Carl. On 3/24/2023 3:09 AM, Dave Seiter
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Re: Rustoleum Green Hammered
Some links to DIY hammered paint
https://www.madbeanpedals.com/forum/index.php?topic=24219.0
https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/threads/hammered-paint-in-a-custom-color.474021/
?Some of the old cans of Hammered paint that I have made by 'Hammerite" it is a European company and more then likely a supplier back in the day to Unimat.
https://www.hammerite.com/
http://www.paint-store.net/store/product.php?productid=1641
Here is another one that is made in India that is close.
https://www.indiamart.com/proddetail/hammer-tone-finish-paint-23798766355.html
Jeff -----Original Message-----
From: Jkle379184 via groups.io <jkle379184@...> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Sent: Fri, Mar 24, 2023 8:47 pm Subject: Re: [Unimat] Rustoleum Green Hammered Your green looks to be the lighter one, it almost looks to have a touch of yellow in it in the top photo. I have that same color on the motor of one of mine. But I also have one lathe that is a slightly darker green. The Rosemary looks to be closer to the lighter color. I am not sure that over the life span of the factory production run that the color was exactly the same . Another thing, in many decades, I have never seen a can of factory touch up paint or a link to who the paint manufacturer was, the paint color name other then 'Hammered Grey or Green". We may be chasing a ghost trying to find the exact match paint. Going years back, anyone who used the Rust-o-leum Rosemary Hammered paint, did not use it touch up a lathe, but rather used it to do a total paint job. My brother owned a sign shop for decades and he was a paint specialist by trade. I asked him years ago about matching the unimat paint, he laughed and said he easily could mix and match the color using Sign Painters "One Shot" brand enamal sign paint. But he said the "hammered"? texture was something special and I would have to go to Industrial paint store like Sherwin Williams because of the Stuff that they used to get the texture.
?Here is a link to the Rust-0-leum Material Safety Data Sheet for the Hammered paint. And be aware that this is for the new stuff, the? paint used 50 years ago would have had some nasty stuff in it. Some of the old Hammered cans of paint that I have, not aerosols either recommend using Tylene/Toulene as a thinner.
https://images.homedepot-static.com/catalog/pdfImages/7d/7d63e5e9-fe1c-4430-af1d-dcf1e5e7fab2.pdf
?Jeff
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From: Ruben <groen.drenthe@...> To: John Hutnick <johnhutnick@...>; [email protected] Sent: Fri, Mar 24, 2023 7:42 pm Subject: Re: [Unimat] Rustoleum Green Hammered ? " According to Ruben, everything I might want to do is almost useless.? This seems to be the nature of many IO discussion groups:? mostly talk. " John, you don't know me and I don't know you, but you're to fast with conclusions. I jumped into action and the 2 unimat's in original paint went for the studio to make color neutral photo's. You want to preserve the original Unimat color's, but strange enough you don't want to hear about an accurate way to do it.....!? |
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Re: Rustoleum Green Hammered
Your green looks to be the lighter one, it almost looks to have a touch of yellow in it in the top photo. I have that same color on the motor of one of mine. But I also have one lathe that is a slightly darker green. The Rosemary looks to be closer to the lighter color. I am not sure that over the life span of the factory production run that the color was exactly the same . Another thing, in many decades, I have never seen a can of factory touch up paint or a link to who the paint manufacturer was, the paint color name other then 'Hammered Grey or Green". We may be chasing a ghost trying to find the exact match paint. Going years back, anyone who used the Rust-o-leum Rosemary Hammered paint, did not use it touch up a lathe, but rather used it to do a total paint job. My brother owned a sign shop for decades and he was a paint specialist by trade. I asked him years ago about matching the unimat paint, he laughed and said he easily could mix and match the color using Sign Painters "One Shot" brand enamal sign paint. But he said the "hammered"? texture was something special and I would have to go to Industrial paint store like Sherwin Williams because of the Stuff that they used to get the texture.
?Here is a link to the Rust-0-leum Material Safety Data Sheet for the Hammered paint. And be aware that this is for the new stuff, the? paint used 50 years ago would have had some nasty stuff in it. Some of the old Hammered cans of paint that I have, not aerosols either recommend using Tylene/Toulene as a thinner.
https://images.homedepot-static.com/catalog/pdfImages/7d/7d63e5e9-fe1c-4430-af1d-dcf1e5e7fab2.pdf ?Jeff -----Original Message-----
From: Ruben <groen.drenthe@...> To: John Hutnick <johnhutnick@...>; [email protected] Sent: Fri, Mar 24, 2023 7:42 pm Subject: Re: [Unimat] Rustoleum Green Hammered ? " According to Ruben, everything I might want to do is almost useless.? This seems to be the nature of many IO discussion groups:? mostly talk. " John, you don't know me and I don't know you, but you're to fast with conclusions. I jumped into action and the 2 unimat's in original paint went for the studio to make color neutral photo's. You want to preserve the original Unimat color's, but strange enough you don't want to hear about an accurate way to do it.....!? |
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Re: Case / base for newly acquired PC/basic
I adapted an old carpenter¡¯s toolbox to hold my lathe. The major modification was to the front folding section - this was beefed up with a section of counter-top and I added a pair of feet pinned with hinge sections. Pulling the hinge pins allows the lathe to fold up into the box. The lathe is held in place by knock-down furniture screws - the shanks just fit into the lathe mounting holes and act as keepers. ? ? ??Pics here:? DW |
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Re: Rustoleum Green Hammered
? " According to Ruben, everything I might want to do is almost useless.? This seems to be the nature of many IO discussion groups:? mostly talk. " John, you don't know me and I don't know you, but you're to fast with conclusions. I jumped into action and the 2 unimat's in original paint went for the studio to make color neutral photo's. You want to preserve the original Unimat color's, but strange enough you don't want to hear about an accurate way to do it.....!? |
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