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Re: Unimat 3 Mill/Drill Attachment Question

 

Try using the WayBack machine to find old stuff that was once on the internet.?
?Jeff

On Sunday, December 29, 2024 at 10:41:12 AM EST, Bill in OKC too via groups.io <wmrmeyers@...> wrote:


Amen, Brother!

Though I do wish some of the info that was once stored on the internet was better archived.?

Bill in OKC?

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)

Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.?
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better.
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.



On Sunday, December 29, 2024 at 12:49:34 AM CST, Peter Brooks via groups.io <peter@...> wrote:


Interesting how terminology has changed over the years, the early ¡®scraping¡¯ of sites has become ¡®mining¡¯¡­
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Anyone can access ¡®Messages¡¯ on the Unimat groups.io website without being logged in, so it would be relatively simple to re-publish any posts made here to another site. Files, Photos etc. are not freely accessible, which is a good thing.
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IMHO the recent fad for AI is 99% marketing BS, but it seems to have given the industry a whole new impetus to ¡®collect¡¯ information.
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I find it amusing that ¡®AI¡¯ will also absorb all the absolute idiocy of internet content, and end up not being all that smart after all¡­
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On a serious note, I do worry that the world is increasingly obsessed with the vacuous contents of IT tech, and not the real stuff?that actually physically exists in the world. There, AI, put that in your pipe and smoke it.
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The more time we spend looking at our little lathes the better I think.
Re: Unimat 3 Mill/Drill Attachment Question

 

Ah, groups.io hides email addresses, truncating them and adding three dots (¡­)
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So my last message probably won¡¯t make any sense at all. Sorry. I was trying to explain the email address renaming system that groups.io use.
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I mainly use the web page interface, so maybe see different things to you anyway.
Re: Unimat 3 Mill/Drill Attachment Question

 

Not sure what the problem is here, all posts to and from the forum go through groups.io, so the ¡¯via groups.io¡¯ bit is quite normal.

If for example your email address is abc@... then you may see the address as
abc@...
- which does look pretty weird.
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Re: Unimat 3 Mill/Drill Attachment Question

 

Amen, Brother!

Though I do wish some of the info that was once stored on the internet was better archived.?

Bill in OKC?

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)

Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.?
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better.
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.



On Sunday, December 29, 2024 at 12:49:34 AM CST, Peter Brooks via groups.io <peter@...> wrote:


Interesting how terminology has changed over the years, the early ¡®scraping¡¯ of sites has become ¡®mining¡¯¡­
?
Anyone can access ¡®Messages¡¯ on the Unimat groups.io website without being logged in, so it would be relatively simple to re-publish any posts made here to another site. Files, Photos etc. are not freely accessible, which is a good thing.
?
IMHO the recent fad for AI is 99% marketing BS, but it seems to have given the industry a whole new impetus to ¡®collect¡¯ information.
?
I find it amusing that ¡®AI¡¯ will also absorb all the absolute idiocy of internet content, and end up not being all that smart after all¡­
?
On a serious note, I do worry that the world is increasingly obsessed with the vacuous contents of IT tech, and not the real stuff?that actually physically exists in the world. There, AI, put that in your pipe and smoke it.
?
The more time we spend looking at our little lathes the better I think.
Re: Unimat 3 Mill/Drill Attachment Question

 

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Dick,
I was advised to go with Protonmail but you have to pay a 3 year subscription for it, but it is good for what I do.
Others might have preferences of other providers they feel safe with.
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Regards
Phill
Re: Unimat 3 Mill/Drill Attachment Question

 

Phill,
Can you direct me a email provider that would be more secure?
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Re: Unimat 3 Mill/Drill Attachment Question

 

Thanks, Phill
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Re: Unimat 3 Mill/Drill Attachment Question

 

Dick,
Change to another email provider, It seems yahoo is open to scammers I changed about four months ago to a more secure e-mail and now I don't have any spam/scams.
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Regards
Phill?
Re: Unimat 3 Mill/Drill Attachment Question

 

Phill,
Yes that is it!
It appears I am not alone.
Thanks
Dick
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Re: Unimat 3 Mill/Drill Attachment Question

 

Dick, not sure what your seeing but on your email that comes into me is?OldToolmaker via groups.io<old_toolmaker@...>
Could this be where you are seeing yahoo what your doing. I had problem's with yahoo emails scamming me.
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Phill?
Re: Unimat 3 Mill/Drill Attachment Question

 

Only thing I know of that Yahoo is doing now is email, "News", and advertisements. Haven't seen anything on the group that looks like it's from an AI. Of course I don't look at their "News" or advertisements.?

Bill in OKC?

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)

Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.?
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better.
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.



On Saturday, December 28, 2024 at 08:00:30 PM CST, OldToolmaker via groups.io <old_toolmaker@...> wrote:


John, take a good look at Yahoo.
Evert post by Yahoo has a recap of what I am doing as well as what others are doing. That is rather spooky and I think unnecessary. I feel rather uncomfortable that that Yahoo is paraphrasing what I post on the Unimat group. Happens every time. That is where I believe AI is involved.
Perhaps I don¡¯t understand what is causing this?
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Re: Unimat 3 Mill/Drill Attachment Question

 

Interesting how terminology has changed over the years, the early ¡®scraping¡¯ of sites has become ¡®mining¡¯¡­
?
Anyone can access ¡®Messages¡¯ on the Unimat groups.io website without being logged in, so it would be relatively simple to re-publish any posts made here to another site. Files, Photos etc. are not freely accessible, which is a good thing.
?
IMHO the recent fad for AI is 99% marketing BS, but it seems to have given the industry a whole new impetus to ¡®collect¡¯ information.
?
I find it amusing that ¡®AI¡¯ will also absorb all the absolute idiocy of internet content, and end up not being all that smart after all¡­
?
On a serious note, I do worry that the world is increasingly obsessed with the vacuous contents of IT tech, and not the real stuff?that actually physically exists in the world. There, AI, put that in your pipe and smoke it.
?
The more time we spend looking at our little lathes the better I think.
Re: Unimat 3 Mill/Drill Attachment Question

 

Dick,
Could you give an example of what you are talking about? Text, or a link?
Re: Unimat 3 Mill/Drill Attachment Question >>> OT

 

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Old-Toolmaker,

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The only thing I see is that the Subject is now ¡°off topic¡± again.? Where is the ¡°recap¡± of all these messages??

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If you are taking about the seven url lines following your text communication, I have always assumed that you yourself attached these as part of your e-mail ¡°signature¡±.? ??Otherwise, I do not see anything that matches what you describe.? ??????

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Jerry F.

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of OldToolmaker via groups.io
Sent: Saturday, December 28, 2024 6:00 PM
To: John Entwistle; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Unimat] Unimat 3 Mill/Drill Attachment Question

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John, take a good look at Yahoo.

Evert post by Yahoo has a recap of what I am doing as well as what others are doing. That is rather spooky and I think unnecessary. I feel rather uncomfortable that that Yahoo is paraphrasing what I post on the Unimat group. Happens every time. That is where I believe AI is involved.

Perhaps I don¡¯t understand what is causing this?

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Re: Unimat 3 Mill/Drill Attachment Question

 

Ron,
I feel uneasy about having my posts ending up broadcasted on other forums without permission. I don¡¯t know if it¡¯s just a weird suspicion or not. I know I can¡¯t prevent it.
I just may have to except it as a part of being an an active member of a group.
Dick
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Re: Unimat 3 Mill/Drill Attachment Question

 

Groups.io is not in any way related to Yahoo, It is a completely separate platform.
If groups.io posts are being paraphrased and re posted on Yahoo they are probably being mined and re posted, perhaps in Yahoo's attempt to bolster their hits.
It is possible that anything you publicly post anywhere on the internet may used elsewhere without your permission.
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See /g/updates/topic/introducing_groups_io/29 to learn a little more about groups.io.
Re: Unimat 3 Mill/Drill Attachment Question

 

John, take a good look at Yahoo.
Evert post by Yahoo has a recap of what I am doing as well as what others are doing. That is rather spooky and I think unnecessary. I feel rather uncomfortable that that Yahoo is paraphrasing what I post on the Unimat group. Happens every time. That is where I believe AI is involved.
Perhaps I don¡¯t understand what is causing this?
--
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?SMALL TURRET TOOL POST PLANS?
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Re: Unimat 3 Mill/Drill Attachment Question

 

Dick, you have posted in the group 1,068 times. What, after all those posts, in my response caused you to think it was created by an AI? And if the site is run by an AI, what response did you expect?
Re: Unimat 3 Mill/Drill Attachment Question

 

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OT, where is this comment coming from? I¡¯ve never seen any indication that AI is involved with this group.


Best Regards
John



On Dec 28, 2024, at 9:32?AM, OldToolmaker via groups.io <old_toolmaker@...> wrote:

? Is this group run AI? It sure looks that way.
I am not at all interested in this forum if that is the case!




On Thursday, December 19, 2024, 3:39 PM, Ron K via groups.io <ron.kellis@...> wrote:

FWIW, my recent experiences on eBay are if you put a watch on an item, or let it sit in your shopping cart, you will often get a reduced offer. I find it most often on "But it now" with "Make offer." They know you are interested, but for whatever reason, aren't buying or making an offer. The reduced offer is often better than what I may have been considering.
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I do it, watch it or put in cart, most often with items I would like to have, but haven't moved into my need to have category.? Then if the price is closer to what I'm willing to spend, I make a purchase. If it's something like this item where I'm not 100% sure I know what I'm getting, I often don't make the purchase.

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Re: Unimat 3 Mill/Drill Attachment Question

 

I can't swear no one on the group is using AI. I'm certainly not, however. I do post from my cell phone, quite frequently, and do moderation tasks. Spellcheck, despite my efforts to prevent it operating, does mess me up now and then. Though sometimes it helps. I misspelled "moderation" above and it corrected it. It also tried to turn "Spellcheck" into Spellchecker. I caught that. Can't tell you what to do about it, Richard. Personally, I refer to it as "artificial stupid." Maybe it will eventually actually learn to be useful. I won't be holding my breath waiting.

Bill in OKC?

William R. Meyers, MSgt, USAF(Ret.)

Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.?
SEMPER GUMBY!
Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
Physics doesn't care about your schedule.
The only reason I know anything is because I've done it wrong enough times to START to know better.
Expect in one hand, expectorate in the other. See which one gets full first.



On Saturday, December 28, 2024 at 08:32:57 AM CST, OldToolmaker via groups.io <old_toolmaker@...> wrote:


Is this group run AI? It sure looks that way.
I am not at all interested in this forum if that is the case!




On Thursday, December 19, 2024, 3:39 PM, Ron K via groups.io <ron.kellis@...> wrote:

FWIW, my recent experiences on eBay are if you put a watch on an item, or let it sit in your shopping cart, you will often get a reduced offer. I find it most often on "But it now" with "Make offer." They know you are interested, but for whatever reason, aren't buying or making an offer. The reduced offer is often better than what I may have been considering.
?
I do it, watch it or put in cart, most often with items I would like to have, but haven't moved into my need to have category.? Then if the price is closer to what I'm willing to spend, I make a purchase. If it's something like this item where I'm not 100% sure I know what I'm getting, I often don't make the purchase.

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