Re: Is it possible to separate Unimat3 from SL/DB
Ditto. There is always something to be learned.?
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On Nov 26, 2024, at 8:48?AM, Jkle379184 via groups.io <jkle379184@...> wrote: ?
I also do not have a problem with keeping it as is. most postings will list what model it is for anyways. And many of the postings are about using the lathes and that can apply to both models. ?Jeff
Hello:
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@James
... present situation works and suits me as a Unimat 3.
@Alan
... keep Unimat 200/SL and U3 united.
@Peter a
... leave things as they are ...
@Andrei
... at least cripple this one and kill the U3 ...
@Peter B
... loads of documents, over many years, pertaining to every sort of Unimat.
... don’t really understand how a split could be beneficial.
... fine with it the way it is ...
I am also a late comer, at least in comparison with the people who have been around since the Yahoo days.
That said, as a Unimat 3 owner I fully agree with the quoted opinions, to which I would like to add mine for the board member's consideration:
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Keeping a bulletin board working and in order takes work, work that is usually not seen and most times not appreciated.
It requires dedication, patience, a great deal of common sense and a cool head.
ie: the stuff that usually comes with life experience.
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I say that both as a member/former member of many groups I have benefited from / contributed to since ~1996.?
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Dividing the Unimat group will only add more work to what is needed now to keep it running.
ie: just the sharing out posts into different categories would be a mammoth sized task.
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In my view, the nature of (what we could call) the Unimat ecosystem is not a very populated one, the main reason being that Unimats (of the type we deal with here) are no longer manufactured and as a result have a steadily decreasing user base.
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I think that it's closest cousin (Sieg C0) is no longer manufactured as a unit either, but I am not sure.
Quite a few Sieg C0 parts are still available and will fit perfectly well in the U3 but with prices close/equal to Emco U3 prices. ?
eg: carriage screw replacement
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It is inevitable that the number of Unimat users / contributors to this board will eventually get to the point of being too few to justify its existence.
Just look at the statistics cited in the post by @Peter ashby.
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I believe there is strength in numbers so I'd say that we should try to make the best of that.
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One thing I would like to suggest:
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From what I gather, the Unimat 3 group is all but dead in the water, don't know what happened to the (!) Unimat3 group.
Being a moderated group, there have been no new postings to Unimat 3 for the longest while.
They are stuck somewhere, awaiting moderation from an inexistent moderator.
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Unimat group management might want to consider contacting groups.io management (must be someone to talk to somewhere) to see if all posts Unimat 3 group can be moved to the Unimat group and then close it down for lack of activity.
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Best,
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JHM
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Re: Is it possible to separate Unimat3 from SL/DB
I agree, if it is not broken, don't fix it.
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Hello:
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This is a (sort of) followup to this post. ?
I went looking and found what I had started working on (more than a year or so ago) while I waited for parts and assorted tools to continue with my U3's much needed rework, which is still in progress. Like a visit to your odontologist: you know when go in but not when you'll leave.
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What I had in mind was using the existing OEM accesory (that expensive little thingy ... ) but driven by an independent 12/24v DC motor with fwd/rev PWM control. A simple solution to the 'twirl around the handle' hassle involved in moving the carriage away when not turning with a tool.
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It would still use a belt (preferably round) but it would be of a larger size and section so it would (hopefully) not stretch or slip like the OEM spec o'rings used from the factory.
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The photos attached are just a proof of concept, a general idea to improve upon and share with the board.
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Notes:
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The mounting plate for this mock up was made from scrap galvanised steel sheet.
The original one will be replaced with a larger one made from 4 or 5mm laser cut steel plate.
The final dimensions and shape of the new mounting plate will become clear when I know what the driving pulley looks like and the exact motor used.
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This U3 accessory is notoriously difficult to take apart to clean and grease.
If you plan on taking it apart, have a close look at the exploded view I am attaching (from the U3 manual).
There are a few things that will be lost if you don't. eg: parts 9, 10 and 11
Don't ask me how I know that.
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You may notice that the hole through which the knurled knob used to engage / disengage the power feed has been enlarged.
It has been done so that it can pass through the mounting plate by just undoing three screws.
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This is needed to be able to take the mechanism apart without having to remove a pin to then remove the knob to then remove the shaft and so on.
ie: to avoid all the hassle involved.
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But don't look for it in the exploded parts diagramme as it is not numbered.
You can see it to the left of the gear in the main axle.?
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Eventually, a thin rubber/silicone something can be put in place between the gear and the mounting plate if grease starts to come out while in use.
But if hard white/yellow grease (B&D power drill gear stuff) is used, it should not happen.
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Comments / suggestions welcome.
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Best,
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JHM
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Hmm.? You can add a hashtag to the end of the subject line but it means nothing unless it is a hashtag which is defined in the Groups.io web interface.
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What are hashtags for?? Well, you can (in the web interface) filter by them
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by selecting them from the list of defined hashtags...
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You then get a filtered list of posts with that tag:
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which is not many in this case, as you can see.
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I guess this is only useful if
?a) relevant tags for the different models (or subjects) are set up
?b) people tag their topics accordingly
?c) people use the web browser based interface
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So a pretty pointless exercise on my part, somebody please delete it after a few days? :-)
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Yep, and they come through fine on my ancient email client.
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This implies that if you are using an email interface to post to the list you just have to add the hashtag to the end of the subject line...
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I have no idea if you can add a hashtag that doesn't exist in the hashtag list (the list may just be a helpful suggestion) so I'll test it here by adding a second, non-existent hashtag.
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Yes they are working fine on my email.
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Phill
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This message / topic has the (already defined) hashtag #unimat3 added through the web interface (the '# Add Tags' button to the right of the subject field in a 'New Topic'). When you select one or more hashtags and add them they appear (in the web browser interface anyway) at the end of the subject line.
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Adding them looks like this in the interface (you can also see the 'Hashtags' item in the menu, on the left):
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I'm interested to know where (if at all) they appear in an email (in the subject line?), and if they 'persist' across multiple posts (replies). Could someone reply to this please?
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Re: Thanksgiving trip, selling Unimat Accessories
Last chance folks, leaving for US in morning.
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Make an offer and I’ll consider it.?
regards,
Jeff
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Re: Is it possible to separate Unimat3 from SL/DB
Thanks Bill,
At least I am not alone. I don’t have a clue how to use hash tags or what they are.
Frankly, I prefer the old system. But that is just my preference.
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Re: Is it possible to separate Unimat3 from SL/DB
I too am with keeping SL/DB/U3 together in one forum if some folk are finding it hard to keep track there is the use of Hash tags very simple to use just remember to click on them when you want to post a new topic.
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Re: Is it possible to separate Unimat3 from SL/DB
I also do not have a problem with keeping it as is. most postings will list what model it is for anyways. And many of the postings are about using the lathes and that can apply to both models. ?Jeff
Hello:
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@James
... present situation works and suits me as a Unimat 3.
@Alan
... keep Unimat 200/SL and U3 united.
@Peter a
... leave things as they are ...
@Andrei
... at least cripple this one and kill the U3 ...
@Peter B
... loads of documents, over many years, pertaining to every sort of Unimat.
... don’t really understand how a split could be beneficial.
... fine with it the way it is ...
I am also a late comer, at least in comparison with the people who have been around since the Yahoo days.
That said, as a Unimat 3 owner I fully agree with the quoted opinions, to which I would like to add mine for the board member's consideration:
?
Keeping a bulletin board working and in order takes work, work that is usually not seen and most times not appreciated.
It requires dedication, patience, a great deal of common sense and a cool head.
ie: the stuff that usually comes with life experience.
?
I say that both as a member/former member of many groups I have benefited from / contributed to since ~1996.?
?
Dividing the Unimat group will only add more work to what is needed now to keep it running.
ie: just the sharing out posts into different categories would be a mammoth sized task.
?
In my view, the nature of (what we could call) the Unimat ecosystem is not a very populated one, the main reason being that Unimats (of the type we deal with here) are no longer manufactured and as a result have a steadily decreasing user base.
?
I think that it's closest cousin (Sieg C0) is no longer manufactured as a unit either, but I am not sure.
Quite a few Sieg C0 parts are still available and will fit perfectly well in the U3 but with prices close/equal to Emco U3 prices. ?
eg: carriage screw replacement
?
It is inevitable that the number of Unimat users / contributors to this board will eventually get to the point of being too few to justify its existence.
Just look at the statistics cited in the post by @Peter ashby.
?
I believe there is strength in numbers so I'd say that we should try to make the best of that.
?
One thing I would like to suggest:
?
From what I gather, the Unimat 3 group is all but dead in the water, don't know what happened to the (!) Unimat3 group.
Being a moderated group, there have been no new postings to Unimat 3 for the longest while.
They are stuck somewhere, awaiting moderation from an inexistent moderator.
?
Unimat group management might want to consider contacting groups.io management (must be someone to talk to somewhere) to see if all posts Unimat 3 group can be moved to the Unimat group and then close it down for lack of activity.
?
Best,
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JHM
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Re: Is it possible to separate Unimat3 from SL/DB
Hello:
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@James
... present situation works and suits me as a Unimat 3.
@Alan
... keep Unimat 200/SL and U3 united.
@Peter a
... leave things as they are ...
@Andrei
... at least cripple this one and kill the U3 ...
@Peter B
... loads of documents, over many years, pertaining to every sort of Unimat.
... don’t really understand how a split could be beneficial.
... fine with it the way it is ...
I am also a late comer, at least in comparison with the people who have been around since the Yahoo days.
That said, as a Unimat 3 owner I fully agree with the quoted opinions, to which I would like to add mine for the board member's consideration:
?
Keeping a bulletin board working and in order takes work, work that is usually not seen and most times not appreciated.
It requires dedication, patience, a great deal of common sense and a cool head.
ie: the stuff that usually comes with life experience.
?
I say that both as a member/former member of many groups I have benefited from / contributed to since ~1996.?
?
Dividing the Unimat group will only add more work to what is needed now to keep it running.
ie: just the sharing out posts into different categories would be a mammoth sized task.
?
In my view, the nature of (what we could call) the Unimat ecosystem is not a very populated one, the main reason being that Unimats (of the type we deal with here) are no longer manufactured and as a result have a steadily decreasing user base.
?
I think that it's closest cousin (Sieg C0) is no longer manufactured as a unit either, but I am not sure.
Quite a few Sieg C0 parts are still available and will fit perfectly well in the U3 but with prices close/equal to Emco U3 prices. ?
eg: carriage screw replacement
?
It is inevitable that the number of Unimat users / contributors to this board will eventually get to the point of being too few to justify its existence.
Just look at the statistics cited in the post by @Peter ashby.
?
I believe there is strength in numbers so I'd say that we should try to make the best of that.
?
One thing I would like to suggest:
?
From what I gather, the Unimat 3 group is all but dead in the water, don't know what happened to the (!) Unimat3 group.
Being a moderated group, there have been no new postings to Unimat 3 for the longest while.
They are stuck somewhere, awaiting moderation from an inexistent moderator.
?
Unimat group management might want to consider contacting groups.io management (must be someone to talk to somewhere) to see if all posts Unimat 3 group can be moved to the Unimat group and then close it down for lack of activity.
?
Best,
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JHM
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Re: Is it possible to separate Unimat3 from SL/DB
Hi guys,
That should have been "driech", the dreaded, but un checked, predictive text.
Cheers,
James,
The sun has come out!
On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 06:55 AM, Peter Brooks wrote:
...Trying to split the group might be decisive and counterproductive in the long run...
=divisive (bloomin' autocorrect...)
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Hashtags have a section to themselves in the web interface menu - here is a screenshot of all of them for those using email only. As you can see, they aren't much used judging by the number of topics tagged with each one.
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They could certainly be used more to flag that a post is about a certain model, but I suspect that folks will still wander off topic (in any possible direction!). That's certainly not unique to this forum - it happens on all the other ones I'm on as well ( and others)... irritating / annoying if you're trying to get answers, or focus on specific areas, but really just the rich tapestry of life, and the interaction of well-meaning folks. That's enough philosophising for now!
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Re: Is it possible to separate Unimat3 from SL/DB
On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 06:55 AM, Peter Brooks wrote:
...Trying to split the group might be decisive and counterproductive in the long run...
=divisive (bloomin' autocorrect...)
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Hashtags have a section to themselves in the web interface menu - here is a screenshot of all of them for those using email only. As you can see, they aren't much used judging by the number of topics tagged with each one.
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They could certainly be used more to flag that a post is about a certain model, but I suspect that folks will still wander off topic (in any possible direction!). That's certainly not unique to this forum - it happens on all the other ones I'm on as well (groups.io and others)... irritating / annoying if you're trying to get answers, or focus on specific areas, but really just the rich tapestry of life, and the interaction of well-meaning folks. That's enough philosophising for now!
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Re: Mistery Unimat 3 with interesting modifications
On Sat, Nov 23, 2024 at 07:21 PM, Nick Clarke wrote:
For thread milling/grinding ……………………………………………?
Ha ha, not this time, not planning on a servo motor so precise speed would be tricky...? just something simple to move the carriage around (semi-automatically).
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On Sat, Nov 23, 2024 at 10:21 PM, Julius Henry Marx wrote:
The problem with that is that you will have no provision for 'accidents'.
ie: a tool jamming with a direct drive will have no belt slippage to protect the work | tool | motor and/or PWM unit.
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You're right of course, a belt drive via pulleys is a much safer (and better) solution.
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Re: Is it possible to separate Unimat3 from SL/DB
I am in favour of leaving sleeping dogs lie. The present situation works and suits me as an SL200 user.
Many thanks guys for your contributions.
James,
From drench Scotland
On Tue, 26 Nov 2024, 07:43 Alan Ehrlich via , <alan.ehrlich= [email protected]> wrote: Hello,?
For my part, it’s more logical (and productive) to keep Unimat 200/SL and U3 united. Notably, the contrary will result in increased duplication of identical posts, fractured archival information and a loss of synergy...
Kind regards, Alan On 26 Nov 2024, at 01:14, Neil Morrison via < neilsmorr@...> wrote: There were two groups for Unimat 3: One is Unimat3. The owner seems to have died? No one can add anyone etc it seems.
I set up Unimat-Three as an alternative. I guess I should invite the other Unimat3 group members to move and add some more moderators to it. Any thoughts?
On Mon, Nov 25, 2024 at 6:41?AM OldToolmaker via <old_toolmaker= [email protected]> wrote: Can the Unimat DB/SL forum be separated from the Unimat 3 Forum? Even though all are technically Unimats it is sometimes difficult to follow as the discussion is mixed together. Just wondering!
Dick
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Re: Is it possible to separate Unimat3 from SL/DB
Hello,?
For my part, it’s more logical (and productive) to keep Unimat 200/SL and U3 united. Notably, the contrary will result in increased duplication of identical posts, fractured archival information and a loss of synergy...
Kind regards, Alan
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On 26 Nov 2024, at 01:14, Neil Morrison via < neilsmorr@...> wrote: There were two groups for Unimat 3: One is Unimat3. The owner seems to have died? No one can add anyone etc it seems.
I set up Unimat-Three as an alternative. I guess I should invite the other Unimat3 group members to move and add some more moderators to it. Any thoughts?
On Mon, Nov 25, 2024 at 6:41?AM OldToolmaker via <old_toolmaker= [email protected]> wrote: Can the Unimat DB/SL forum be separated from the Unimat 3 Forum? Even though all are technically Unimats it is sometimes difficult to follow as the discussion is mixed together. Just wondering!
Dick
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Re: Is it possible to separate Unimat3 from SL/DB
actually now I look I find 2 unimat 3 groups, neither active with posts, so probably best to just leave things as they are, as we certainly wouldnt want to confuse matters with a third group, neither of the above seem to have posts, and on one the last post is querying whether there was a moderator / owner
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Date 26/11/2024 07:08:36
Subject Re: [Unimat] Is it possible to separate Unimat3 from SL/DB
there did use to be a unimat 3 group as well as this one, but it sort of died a death when nobody could contact the group owner.
On Mon, 25 Nov 2024 06:41:19 -0800
"OldToolmaker via groups.io" <old_toolmaker@...> wrote:
Can the Unimat DB/SL forum be separated from the Unimat 3 Forum? Even though all are technically Unimats it is sometimes difficult to follow as the discussion is mixed together. Just wondering!
Dick
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Re: Is it possible to separate Unimat3 from SL/DB
Splintering the group is a sure way to kill both versions, or at least cripple this one and kill the U3 variety.?
If there were a million users, it would work, but there are barely enough users now to get a few messages per day. Just look at the group stats.?
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there did use to be a unimat 3 group as well as this one, but it sort of died a death when nobody could contact the group owner.
On Mon, 25 Nov 2024 06:41:19 -0800
"OldToolmaker via groups.io" <old_toolmaker@...> wrote:
Can the Unimat DB/SL forum be separated from the Unimat 3 Forum? Even though all are technically Unimats it is sometimes difficult to follow as the discussion is mixed together. Just wondering!
Dick
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forum/ OFF- SET-tailstock-center-65965#post105972
forum/s...995#post112113 (
) SMALL TURRET TOOL POST PLANS
forum/l...994#post112111 (
) LARGE TURRET TOOL POST PLANS
forum/m...383#post110340 (
) MINI- LATHE CARRIAGE LOCK PLANS
forum/s...191#post106483 (
) SMALL QC TOOL POST PLANS
forum/q...849#post119345 (
) QUICK CHANGE LATHE TURRET
forum/m...949#post119893 (
) MINI LATHE COMPOUND PIVOT MODIFICATION
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Re: Is it possible to separate Unimat3 from SL/DB
there did use to be a unimat 3 group as well as this one, but it sort of died a death when nobody could contact the group owner. On Mon, 25 Nov 2024 06:41:19 -0800 "OldToolmaker via groups.io" <old_toolmaker@...> wrote: Can the Unimat DB/SL forum be separated from the Unimat 3 Forum? Even though all are technically Unimats it is sometimes difficult to follow as the discussion is mixed together. Just wondering!
Dick
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forum/l...994#post112111 ( ) LARGE TURRET TOOL POST PLANS
forum/m...383#post110340 ( ) MINI- LATHE CARRIAGE LOCK PLANS
forum/s...191#post106483 ( ) SMALL QC TOOL POST PLANS
forum/q...849#post119345 ( ) QUICK CHANGE LATHE TURRET
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