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Why Unimat?

 

I don't have a Unimat. I'd like one but I already have several small lathes so getting one is simply a want rather than a need.

I became interested in a lathe for model work, and ended up buying a Sherline, since they could be bought new and have a good reputation.?

The topic of small lathes often comes up in modeling circles. I can do a decent comparison between Taig, Sherline and Atlas / Craftsman 6" since I have used them, but have never been hands on with a Unimat.

For somebody in the market for a small lathe, what would you say the major perks of a Unimat are??

Obviously size goes for the SL/SB if someone wants very compact and the various attachments can make it a handy if expensive many in one tool.

With the prices Unimats can ask, I begin to wonder if they are still a good suggestion for a beginner. You can get a new Taig or Sherline for about the same money as the average asking price of a Unimat.
As I don't have experience with Unimat that is a question I can't answer.


Re: Unimat pc basic: question on dead center / alignment bar

 

"I don=t lie the tailstock"

That's?

I don't like the tailstock

Must type even slower!


Re: Unimat pc basic: question on dead center / alignment bar

 

On Sat, Apr 8, 2023 at 03:14 AM, jpow wrote:
4. Unimat pc has an eccentric off center spindle on tailstock that allows adjustment supposedly in one axis (to front / rear of) Wouldnt this? adjustment would move the center point in both horizontal and vertical directions??

Yes, it does, but if you calculate the vertical movement compared to horizontal it is negligible. And if you work out the effect it would have on turning a cylinder, it would make it into a very shallow hyperboloid. Not considered too important for the jobs the machine was intended for. However, I don=t lie the tailstock and will be designing a new one once that project rises up the priority list. I picture a very traditional unit with a horizontal adjustment, largely machined from bocks of aluminium alloy. Details here when - if - it happens.


Re: 4 jaw chuck M12 x 1 thread

 

Just got my 3 jaw from India yesterday. A bit grimey, and kinda rough on the backplate (but machined smooth where it contacts the spindle). I'll have to measure runout when I get a chance, but seems decent for the price.

I also bought a Sherline 4 jaw and am super impressed with it. Way more solid than the Emco original.


Re: 4 jaw chuck M12 x 1 thread

 

I bought the 4 jaw Indian chuck off ebay, initially I was disappointed as it was very rough movement. I stripped it down and used a small needle file and did a small ammount of work on the contact surfaces and the edges. Honestly it is fine now, I suppose it's the old story, you get what you pay for.
I've never seen a chuck this size and it was a bit of a shock when compared to my 4" mini lathe chuck


Re: unimat 3 cnc

 

Hi Alexander can you give more details on your quick change tool post? Did you make it yourself? Thx!?


Re: Emco Unimat 3 Lathe Attached To Wooden Box/ Accessories for auction on Goodwill site.

 

Sold for $470, I estimate $60 for shipping at least to my ZIP Code. So all in at $530. ?


Re: What is the Best Unimat ? and WHY !

 

Hi James,
I'll write up a new thread showing images of what I have done, the Indexer and controller I made so I could move between different machine's CNC, Miller, Lathe it has it's own power supply it is so easy to move and setup to use.


Phill


Re: What is the Best Unimat ? and WHY !

 

Hello Steve,
I'll write up a new thread showing images of what I have done, the Indexer and controller I made so I could move between different machine's CNC, Miller, Lathe it has it's own power supply it is so easy to move and setup to use.
I wanted a small lathe to use for clock work and some miniature wood work at a later date and came across the little cast SL which is just right, but what I did not like was having use a lot of time moving the axis by hand so I came up with make new bed bars to fit the stepper motors and found the single axis controllers from China and they work fine takes a little thinking to set them up but works well, and yes the steppers are through shaft which helps sometimes.

Phill

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Re: Unimat pc basic: question on dead center / alignment bar

 

For reference this is a picture of the unimat pc tailstock spindle. It has m14 threads for screwing on chuck / collet / live center.?


Unimat pc basic: question on dead center / alignment bar

 

Hey all

Bit by bit I'm learning more about my lathe (as a total newbie)?

I'm moving to the point where I'm trying to align my tailstock and have but a couple of stumbling blocks?

- I dont have any form of alignment bar (length shd be approx 150mm to fit in the unimat pc)?
- I don't have any Dead centers

Questions?
1. Are the dead centers for unimat pc the same as unimat 3? Ie. Non tapered and must slide them into spindle? If so I'll find unimat 3 dead centers online.?

2. Is the mounting of dead center as simple as sliding them into the spindle? If so Won't it be loose / have play?

3. Any online options for an alignment bar that stretches the full working distance of the unimat pc? By measurement it's abt 150-180mm

4. Unimat pc has an eccentric off center spindle on tailstock that allows adjustment supposedly in one axis (to front / rear of) Wouldnt this? adjustment would move the center point in both horizontal and vertical directions?


Any advice is much appreciated :)?

JP


Re: Electric Motors #db200

 

Interesting - I¡¯ve been kicking that idea around for a while. The old 1900s collector toy trains are pricy items, but can I build something similar? Good question. Right now I¡¯m wondering if I can mill slots into the semi-solid barrel armature from a hysteresis motor. It has a laminated field frame, bearings and enough room to add a commutator. Almost done, hah!

chestofbooks.com has reprints of those old Popular Mechanics articles, including some motors. Here¡¯s one example:?

DW


Re: Emco Unimat 3 Lathe Attached To Wooden Box/ Accessories for auction on Goodwill site.

 

Hi Gang:

Do check on shipping, the lathe is in Alaska!

Carl.

On 04/07/2023 12:29 PM Richard Burrows <bluerandonee@...> wrote:


There ia a?Emco Unimat 3 Lathe Attached To Wooden Box/ Accessories for auction at the Goodwill site.
The auction ends at??04/07/2023 07:46:00 PM PT.

Richard B.




Re: What is the Best Unimat ? and WHY !

 

Hi Phil,

I really like your power feed setup, and am intrigued by your dividing head index controller.? Could you post more information and pictures? I'd like to explore this, but haven't had any practical experience in cnc/electronic lead screws. Have you posted any writeups or videos on this anywhere?
Cheers,
James


Re: What is the Best Unimat ? and WHY !

 

Hi Phil, I'd love to see more pics of your setup, hi-res if possible, as I plan to do something very similar. Especially interested in the indexed divider, am thinking about the same for my vertical mill setup (I have 2 SLs). Are those steppers with a thru shaft? I've not seen them before, would be interested in where you sourced them.


Emco Unimat 3 Lathe Attached To Wooden Box/ Accessories for auction on Goodwill site.

 

There ia a?Emco Unimat 3 Lathe Attached To Wooden Box/ Accessories for auction at the Goodwill site.
The auction ends at??04/07/2023 07:46:00 PM PT.

Richard B.




Re: Unimat 3 / PC Cross Slide Backlash from HANDLEWHEEL

 

I forgot to add I looked at adding plastic washers but guessed they might wear in time, I don't like the bent compression washers I think that would introduce some movement, I think by adding a hardened washer then the roller then a washer it has worked by far the best, cost a few ?'s or should I add $'s but that is it now I can go on and enjoy the lathe.

Phill


Re: Unimat 3 / PC Cross Slide Backlash from HANDLEWHEEL

 

Hi Dick, I never gave it a thought about making two like you have I just went looking at bearing supplies and found just what I was looking for, it has improved my little lathe 99% I don't have any problem with back lash on the screws and nut they are working really well.
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Re: Unimat 3 / PC Cross Slide Backlash from HANDLEWHEEL

 

On my 7x16 minilathe I made a small ball thrust bearing on the cross slide and was able to remove virtually all back lash on the cross slide of my minilathe. It was made from tiny loose balls in a circular groove. I see no reason this could not be adapted to the Unimat cross slide.
Dick

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Re: Unimat 3 / PC Cross Slide Backlash from HANDLEWHEEL

 

Additionally it¡¯ll add friction to a point in the system where you really don¡¯t want additional friction.?

I find the best thing is to make a small washer out of a piece of plastic shim stock. ? That seems to smooth out the surface between the knob and the casting a little. ? I did that on my 3 in 1 mill which uses the same technology as the SL.?

But in the case of my Unimat, most of the backlash is the result of wear in the cross slide on both axis.? That would be more trouble to fix than it is worth.?


On Thu, Apr 6, 2023 at 6:14 PM CARL BLUM <carl.blum@...> wrote:
Hi:

The problem with the wave washer is, under a cutter load the side force will collapse the washer and the cutter path won't be straight.

Carl.
On 04/06/2023 1:01 PM Richard Burrows <bluerandonee@...> wrote:


Perhaps using a curved, or wave, disk spring washer under the handle would give enough pre-load to minimize the backlash.
Something similar to one of these:



Richard B.
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