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Re: Unimat 3 mill headstock alignment problem


 

You don't need to clamp so hard that you deform the part. Just enough to hold the part firmly. If the part already has the slit, put slices of aluminum can metal in the slit to fill it, and clamp the slit closed.?

On any Unimat, you're going to take very light cuts. In inch measurements, 0.003" or less would be about right. It will take around 40-41 cuts to get close, 1/8th inch being about 3mm. Or? 0.125 decimal inches. Then take 0.001" cuts while testing the fit after each cut. Do not get in a hurry.?

Rather than buy the fittings, maybe you can find slices of aluminum? stock to make your own.? Your shop where you had the machinist work on the other part might be able to provide the material from off cuts. Those are pieces too small to clamp in their machines. And they can often be had cheaply. I'm all about cheap! ??

Stack them together to machine them, if the stack will fit your lathe. Step drill the holes as you've described. Then bore or ream to finished size, all still in the stack. Super glue, or cyanoacrylate, will hold a stack together, and can also hold a part to a faceplate for machining. The faceplate then used instead a chuck. Working individual parts makes it more likely they won't be a perfect match, but it might be necessary if you don't have enough room for the stacked parts.?

HTH!

Bill in OKC?

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On Thursday, December 5, 2024 at 06:55:30 AM CST, Julius Henry Marx via groups.io <sawbona@...> wrote:


Hello:
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On Wed, Dec 4, 2024 at 11:45 PM, John Hutnick wrote:
... do not quite understand some of the comments ...
@John: Julius will do ...? 8^¡ã
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I'm sorry, my command of the english language is rather limited.
Specially in technical matters.
... what I suggest.
... 3 or 4 of the original type shaft collars ...
I was on my way to doing exactly that when I realised that they were ?25 and the U3 column ?28.
... few dollars each one ...
... of little consequence.
In my case, the consequence depends on the total cost.
There are steep shipping charges and import taxes for me to pay.
A bad local currency/US$ exchange rate makes things worse.
... clamp the rounded end in your chuck, and bore to 28mm.
Clamp the rounded end securely enough to bore 25mm -> 28mm I will surely alter the original diameter.
ie: deforming it, like if I were clamping it around the ?25mm rod but without the rod.
The resulting ?28mm will be off center (and probably not round) with respect to the mounting holes.
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I once had a similar clamp made for me at a shop.
The chap making the piece (an old timer kind enough to let me watch the process and explain) emphasised that the slit was the last thing to do.
... drill out the outside holes up to 10mm ...
Yes, that can most probably be done albeit with the proper precautions.
In small steps, I guess.
eg: 8.25 / 8.50 / 8.75 and so on or with a stepped drill from below (?).
... not satisfied ...
... throw out the pieces, nothing much lost.
I beg to differ, see above.
... then buy something else.
Or maybe look for a different solution, like my previous post?
You clearly have much more experience that I.
I'd appreciate your comments on it.
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That said, in my opinion there is a reason for this problem not ever getting solved without great expense or complications.
eg: the severe limitations posed by Emco's quill holder / headstock adapter design and cost cutting measures.
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The Heminway Kits, UPVLA (and maybe others) never gained much momentum.
Even with a high market price there was demand for them but in both cases a limited number were made.
It has proven all but impossible to find usable traces of them on the web. eg: flyers or instruction sheets.
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Maybe they did not work as well as intended / advertised?
No idea, I have not seen reviews.
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Thank you for your input.
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Best,
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JHM

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