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Re: A slight diversion from chuck issues: 24v DC motor wire code


 

Had a solar hot water heater controller like that on my house in Las Vegas in the early 80's. That company didn't another dime from me.?

A few years ago one of the industrial washing machines I was working on had a small electrical fire that damaged? a bunch of the wiring. All the wire in that machine was red, but there were number tags on all the wires. It took me most of a week, but I completely rewired the machine. Marking on the wires & connectors makes the difference.?

A lot of years ago, I built my first computer from articles in Radio Electronics magazine.? It used wire-wrap sockets, and I could only afford one roll of the wire, at $25 per. First-time power up let the magic smoke out of some very expensive chips. They? call that "pound wise, penny foolish." It would have taken a couple more months to get more colors of wire but I didn't want to wait any longer.?

It's easier do it right than do it again. See my first aphorism. :)

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Aphorisms to live by:
Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgement.?
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Improvise, Adapt, and Overcome.
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On Monday, July 25, 2022 at 02:11:38 AM CDT, Brian Symons <brians@...> wrote:


You can always sleeve the leads of your motor for safety sake even with heatshrink.?
It is cheap enough & readily available as well as easy to use.

I've done it before on gear that I wanted to make MORE fool proof.


I once worked on a dental chair that the manufacturer wired everything in the same gauge white wire.?
There were multiple voltages all the same wire - DC extra low voltage to manual controls with metal parts, mains wiring ... the works.?
Even many earths were in the same white but I think the mains was green earth.
No wiring had any markings on it & the same single pin connector was used on every wire to the PCBs.
The PCB also had no markings identifying what any connector was for or even a connector number.?

That was years ago & that manufacturer did it to stop anyone servicing their gear.?
Every IC had the markings sandblasted off them & even the transistors had been defaced as well as some discrete components.

They would probably not be game to go quite so far now days with wiring for safety reasons but I have seen newer gear that has all the IC markings removed.




On 25-July-2022 4:08 pm, Gerald Feldman wrote:

The problem is the same as that with thread sizes ¨C there are simply too many of them to be uniform everywhere.

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Even just In the US, for house wiring (120 / 240 volts), ground is bare or green, hot is black, and neutral is white (or gray).? If the other phase of the hot is in the same conduit, it may be any other color, but is usually red.? For industrial three-phase wiring, the ¡°standard¡± colors will vary with the voltage, and whether the distribution is delta or wye.

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Of course, what is important is that the colors (or thread sizes) used throughout the job are uniform and that everyone working on the job understands exactly what ¡°standard¡± is being used.

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Jerry F.

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Keith S. Angus
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2022 10:21 PM
To: Mike Gidley; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Unimat] A slight diversion from chuck issues: 24v DC motor wire code

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The colours used on the motor in question indicate the manufacturer has given no thought to safety and just used a commonly available cheap cable. I would never use the colours for mains wiring on anything not intended to be plugged into the mains.


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