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Does anyone know quick weather stations can be made to work with UIView?

I currently run a Lacrosse WX 32xx and it's becoming more and more difficult to support. I really don't want to spring for the more expensive and obvious Preet bros or Davis.

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Dave

Hi Stephen,

This is on TX packets from my iGate rather than RX packets to my iGate.

My KPC-3 saves them up and then send all the TX packets at random intervals.

If I quickly power cycle the radio, it resolves it for a few, but comes right back in no time.

Thanks again!

-Scott
KD4YDD
________________________________
From: ui-view@... <ui-view@...> on behalf of 'Stephen H. Smith' wa8lmf@... [ui-view] <ui-view@...>
Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2019 2:26 PM
To: ui-view@... <ui-view@...>
Subject: Re: [UI-View] Delayed long packets sent

On 10/25/2019 2:23 PM, Scott Brown kd4ydd@... [ui-view] wrote:

Hi all,

Has anyone heard or seen of this?

I am using UI-View32 and a KPC-3 as an iGate. Recently, something has either
changed or gone rogue on me.

My beacons and status text seem to being delay/saved up and then all sent as
a very long packet at random intervals. Looks like roughly every 30 minutes.

I've been pulling my hair out for a few days. Any help would be greatly
appreciated!

Regards,

-Scott
KD4YDD

The KPC-3 is notorious for this. This is an issue that had been going on for
DECADES, with Kantronics denying there is a problem since forever! The
only known fix (other than not using a KPC3) is to power-cycle the KPC3 every
few hours.

The most severe manifestation of this problem is with APRS balloon launches..
Typically a balloon at altitude will be heard by numerous igates over a radius
of hundreds of miles simultaneously. Several igates will pass the received
beacon to the Internet more-or-less instantly. The usual APRS-IS dupe-reject
mechanism works. Then a long-delayed packet from an earlier beacon reaches
the Internet via a KPC3 igate late enough that the dupe algorithm thinks it's a
new packet and accepts it.

The result is the balloon track on APRS maps does the cha-cha-cha moving
forward, then back, then farther forward, than back again endlessly. I call
this phenomenon "hyperjumping". It is such a problem that some balloon
groups now don't operate on the normal 144.39 channel but rather on an
alternate channel where they can control what TNCs are doing igate duty.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Stephen H. Smith wa8lmf (at) aol.com
Skype: WA8LMF
EchoLink: Node # 14400 [Think bottom of the 2-meter band]
Home Page:

Live Off-The-Air APRS Activity Maps
<>

Long-Range APRS on 30 Meters HF
<>








------------------------------------

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Please do not top post, and trim quoted text as much as possible.

UI-View website:

UI-View Registration:
Select language & fill in your name and call sign. Return later to collect your registration.

APRS Server List: To update the APRS Server List, change the download URL to... aprs2.net/APRServe2.txt

For North American users, PMap 9 (Precision Mapping 9.0) along with PMapServer 9 can provide street level mapping for all of North America. They can be installed without hassle on Windows 7 & 8. PMapServer is available for download on the UI-View website. However, Undertow Software is no longer selling new copies of PMap 9, but existing owners can continue to use it as long as they can get it registered.

Users of anything newer than Windows XP should not install UI-View below Program Files. Instead, create a folder elsewhere. To view UI-View's built-in context sensitive help file, download and install WinHlp32.exe.


Stephen WA8LMF has many useful hints and tips about setting up and using UI-View on website:
------------------------------------

Yahoo Groups Links

On 10/25/2019 2:23 PM, Scott Brown kd4ydd@... [ui-view] wrote:

Hi all,

Has anyone heard or seen of this?

I am using UI-View32 and a KPC-3 as an iGate. Recently, something has either
changed or gone rogue on me.

My beacons and status text seem to being delay/saved up and then all sent as
a very long packet at random intervals. Looks like roughly every 30 minutes.

I've been pulling my hair out for a few days. Any help would be greatly
appreciated!

Regards,

-Scott
KD4YDD

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DECADES,� with Kantronics denying there is a problem since forever!牋牋牋 The
only known fix (other than not using a KPC3) is to power-cycle the KPC3 every
few hours.

The most severe manifestation of this problem is with APRS balloon launches. 牋
Typically a balloon at altitude will be heard by numerous igates over a radius
of hundreds of miles simultaneously. � � Several igates will pass the received
beacon to the Internet more-or-less instantly.� The usual APRS-IS dupe-reject
mechanism works. � Then a long-delayed packet from an earlier beacon reaches
the Internet via a KPC3 igate late enough that the dupe algorithm thinks it's a
new packet and accepts it.

The result is the balloon track on APRS maps does the cha-cha-cha moving
forward, then back, then farther forward, than� back again endlessly.� I call
this phenomenon "hyperjumping".牋� It is such a problem that some balloon
groups now don't operate on the normal 144.39 channel but rather on an
alternate channel where they can control what TNCs are doing igate duty.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Stephen H. Smith牋� wa8lmf (at) aol.com
Skype:牋牋牋� WA8LMF
EchoLink:� Node #� 14400� [Think bottom of the 2-meter band]
Home Page:牋牋牋牋�

Live Off-The-Air APRS Activity Maps
牋 <>

Long-Range APRS on 30 Meters HF
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi Lynn,

Thanks for the email.

The KPC-3 is hooked to a monoband Kenwood TM-231a. Interestingly, the Rcv light is always green. Is that normal?

The squelch is tight, I am not in a high RF area aside from my other dabblings in the hobby. It is located at my QTH.

At a loss.

And Bill, yes it is KD4YDD-1. I will try the reset procedure later. I am so close to throwing in the towel.

Thanks everyone!

-Scott
KD4YDD
________________________________
From: ui-view@... <ui-view@...> on behalf of 'Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr)' ldeffenb@... [ui-view] <ui-view@...>
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 5:54 PM
To: ui-view@... <ui-view@...>
Subject: Re: [UI-View] Delayed long packets sent



Possibly the issue described at the link below, that that normally
affects received packets, not transmit packets.



Is it possible that the noise level or squelch has changed and your TNC
believes the channel is busy and is buffering up the transmits until it
clears up?

I had a D700 do this to me when I had it set to consider both A and B
sides for busy and was listening to a long repeater rag-chew while
mobile. When they finally let the repeater drop long enough, EVERYTHING
that was buffered went out in one big transmit. Needless to say, I
changed the setting to only consider the APRS side of the radio for busy.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 10/25/2019 2:23 PM, Scott Brown kd4ydd@... [ui-view] wrote:

Hi all,

Has anyone heard or seen of this?

I am using UI-View32 and a KPC-3 as an iGate. Recently, something has either changed or gone rogue on me.

My beacons and status text seem to being delay/saved up and then all sent as a very long packet at random intervals. Looks like roughly every 30 minutes.

I've been pulling my hair out for a few days. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Regards,

-Scott
KD4YDD







------------------------------------
Posted by: Scott Brown <kd4ydd@...>
------------------------------------

Please do not top post, and trim quoted text as much as possible.

UI-View website:

UI-View Registration:
Select language & fill in your name and call sign. Return later to collect your registration.

APRS Server List: To update the APRS Server List, change the download URL to... aprs2.net/APRServe2.txt

For North American users, PMap 9 (Precision Mapping 9.0) along with PMapServer 9 can provide street level mapping for all of North America. They can be installed without hassle on Windows 7 & 8. PMapServer is available for download on the UI-View website.. However, Undertow Software is no longer selling new copies of PMap 9, but existing owners can continue to use it as long as they can get it registered.

Users of anything newer than Windows XP should not install UI-View below Program Files. Instead, create a folder elsewhere. To view UI-View's built-in context sensitive help file, download and install WinHlp32.exe.


Stephen WA8LMF has many useful hints and tips about setting up and using UI-View on website:
------------------------------------

Yahoo Groups Links

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

You didn't say which SSID this is affecting.
I assume it's the KD4YDD-1, but that callsign is beaconing only on internet it appears.

Assuming the radio squelch is closed, have you tried resetting the TNC?
I generally run these TNCs with the backup battery removed.
I know that requires a full selection of baud rate and mode etc if there's a power glitch, but my experience is that the Kantronics tend to get hung up after a day or two's operation.
(see )


Anyway, good luck! Let us know if you discover the solution.


73


Bill W1WAB

Have you changed the battery inside? they are sensible to that if they are no change at least once a year.
mine lost all there data one time,
you should equal the ground with the radio (put a cable between the outside of the tnc and the ground of your radio

i used to have 2 as nodes,,,
finally i turn them off and baught MFJ and converted them as UIdigi

Kantronics did not won the lotery with these kpc3


gervais ve2ckn

________________________________
De : ui-view@... <ui-view@...> de la part de 'Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr)' ldeffenb@... [ui-view] <ui-view@...>
Envoy� : 25 octobre 2019 17:54
� : ui-view@... <ui-view@...>
Objet : Re: [UI-View] Delayed long packets sent



Possibly the issue described at the link below, that that normally
affects received packets, not transmit packets.



Is it possible that the noise level or squelch has changed and your TNC
believes the channel is busy and is buffering up the transmits until it
clears up?

I had a D700 do this to me when I had it set to consider both A and B
sides for busy and was listening to a long repeater rag-chew while
mobile. When they finally let the repeater drop long enough, EVERYTHING
that was buffered went out in one big transmit. Needless to say, I
changed the setting to only consider the APRS side of the radio for busy.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

On 10/25/2019 2:23 PM, Scott Brown kd4ydd@... [ui-view] wrote:

Hi all,

Has anyone heard or seen of this?

I am using UI-View32 and a KPC-3 as an iGate. Recently, something has either changed or gone rogue on me.

My beacons and status text seem to being delay/saved up and then all sent as a very long packet at random intervals. Looks like roughly every 30 minutes.

I've been pulling my hair out for a few days. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Regards,

-Scott
KD4YDD







------------------------------------
Posted by: Scott Brown <kd4ydd@...>
------------------------------------

Please do not top post, and trim quoted text as much as possible.

UI-View website:

UI-View Registration:
Select language & fill in your name and call sign. Return later to collect your registration.

APRS Server List: To update the APRS Server List, change the download URL to... aprs2.net/APRServe2.txt

For North American users, PMap 9 (Precision Mapping 9.0) along with PMapServer 9 can provide street level mapping for all of North America. They can be installed without hassle on Windows 7 & 8. PMapServer is available for download on the UI-View website. However, Undertow Software is no longer selling new copies of PMap 9, but existing owners can continue to use it as long as they can get it registered.

Users of anything newer than Windows XP should not install UI-View below Program Files. Instead, create a folder elsewhere. To view UI-View's built-in context sensitive help file, download and install WinHlp32.exe.


Stephen WA8LMF has many useful hints and tips about setting up and using UI-View on website:
------------------------------------

Yahoo Groups Links

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I鈥檒l double check that and report back.

I know on the front of the unit it just says 鈥�3鈥�.

Just odd it has been running smooth for 7 years until late.

Thanks again!

-Scott
KD4YDD

Bill,

I鈥檓 sorry but I do not have a KPC-3

73, Lucky W7CNK

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Bill Vodall wa7nwp@... [ui-view]
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 4:51 PM
To: ui-view@...
Subject: Re: [UI-View] Delayed long packets sent

听

I am using UI-View32 and a KPC-3 as an iGate. Recently, something has either changed or gone rogue on me.

My beacons and status text seem to being delay/saved up and then all sent as a very long packet at random intervals. Looks like roughly every 30 minutes.

Is your KPC-3 in KISS mode?






[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

To further this...

I double checked and kiss is in fact off and of note, this is not a PLUS model. It is the original KPC-3.

Thanks again,

-Scott
KD4YDD
________________________________
From: Scott Brown <kd4ydd@...>
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 5:52 PM
To: ui-view@... <ui-view@...>
Subject: Re: [UI-View] Delayed long packets sent

Thanks for the email.

KISS is off and in CONV.

Does this help?

Thank you,

-Scott
KD4YDD



________________________________
From: ui-view@... <ui-view@...> on behalf of Bill Vodall wa7nwp@... [ui-view] <ui-view@...>
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 5:27:23 PM
To: ui-view@... <ui-view@...>
Subject: Re: [UI-View] Delayed long packets sent

I am using UI-View32 and a KPC-3 as an iGate. Recently, something has either changed or gone rogue on me.

My beacons and status text seem to being delay/saved up and then all sent as a very long packet at random intervals. Looks like roughly every 30 minutes.

Is your KPC-3 in KISS mode?






[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Possibly the issue described at the link below, that that normally affects received packets, not transmit packets.



Is it possible that the noise level or squelch has changed and your TNC believes the channel is busy and is buffering up the transmits until it clears up?

I had a D700 do this to me when I had it set to consider both A and B sides for busy and was listening to a long repeater rag-chew while mobile.听 When they finally let the repeater drop long enough, EVERYTHING that was buffered went out in one big transmit.听 Needless to say, I changed the setting to only consider the APRS side of the radio for busy.

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

Thanks for the email.

KISS is off and in CONV.

Does this help?

Thank you,

-Scott
KD4YDD



________________________________
From: ui-view@... <ui-view@...> on behalf of Bill Vodall wa7nwp@... [ui-view] <ui-view@...>
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 5:27:23 PM
To: ui-view@... <ui-view@...>
Subject: Re: [UI-View] Delayed long packets sent

I am using UI-View32 and a KPC-3 as an iGate. Recently, something has either changed or gone rogue on me.

My beacons and status text seem to being delay/saved up and then all sent as a very long packet at random intervals. Looks like roughly every 30 minutes.

Is your KPC-3 in KISS mode?






[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I am using UI-View32 and a KPC-3 as an iGate. Recently, something has either changed or gone rogue on me.

My beacons and status text seem to being delay/saved up and then all sent as a very long packet at random intervals. Looks like roughly every 30 minutes.

Is your KPC-3 in KISS mode?

Are you using a KPC-3 or a KPC-3a?? This is a know problem with the
KPC-3a and I am not sure a work around or a fix has ever been identified.



Erv



K0OTZ



From: ui-view@...
Sent: Friday, October 25, 2019 11:24 AM
To: ui-view@...
Subject: [UI-View] Delayed long packets sent





Hi all,

Has anyone heard or seen of this?

I am using UI-View32 and a KPC-3 as an iGate. Recently, something has either
changed or gone rogue on me.

My beacons and status text seem to being delay/saved up and then all sent as
a very long packet at random intervals. Looks like roughly every 30 minutes.

I've been pulling my hair out for a few days. Any help would be greatly
appreciated!

Regards,

-Scott
KD4YDD

Hi all,

Has anyone heard or seen of this?

I am using UI-View32 and a KPC-3 as an iGate. Recently, something has either changed or gone rogue on me.

My beacons and status text seem to being delay/saved up and then all sent as a very long packet at random intervals. Looks like roughly every 30 minutes.

I've been pulling my hair out for a few days. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Regards,

-Scott
KD4YDD

Hi all,

Has anyone heard or seen of this?

I am using UI-View32 and a KPC-3 as an iGate. Recently, something has either changed or gone rogue on me.

My beacons and status text seem to being delay/saved up and then all sent as a very long packet at random intervals. Looks like roughly every 30 minutes.

I've been pulling my hair out for a few days. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Regards,

-Scott
KD4YDD

thanks for ALL you are doing for The Group.

73 from far East

Gervais ve2ckn


________________________________
De : ui-view@... <ui-view@...> de la part de Keith VE7GDH ve7gdh@... [ui-view] <ui-view@...>
Envoy� : 17 octobre 2019 17:17
� : ui-view@... <ui-view@...>
Objet : [UI-View] migration from Yahoo to groups.io



The Yahoo support group has for better or for worse been on Yahoo since
Roger G4IDE set it up on March 9 1999. Starting on Dec 14 2019, Yahoo
will no longer host user-created content, and new content cannot be
uploaded after Oct 28 2019.

A decision has been made to move the support group to groups.io. The
members list and messages will be transferred over shortly. Everyone
will eventually receive an email from groups.io. It will include a link
giving an option to unsubscribe from the new group.

So long, and thanks for all the fish!

--
73 Keith VE7GDH
"I may be lost, but I know exactly where I am!"




[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

The Yahoo support group has for better or for worse been on Yahoo since Roger G4IDE set it up on March 9 1999. Starting on Dec 14 2019, Yahoo will no longer host user-created content, and new content cannot be uploaded after Oct 28 2019.

A decision has been made to move the support group to groups.io. The members list and messages will be transferred over shortly. Everyone will eventually receive an email from groups.io. It will include a link giving an option to unsubscribe from the new group.

So long, and thanks for all the fish!

--
73 Keith VE7GDH
"I may be lost, but I know exactly where I am!"

Yahoo is shutting down its Groups website and deleting all content




It time to join other groups that have already moved to /



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