Well, according to the aprs TO-CALL id, that packet was generated by KD5BIG
using APWWxx APRSISCE win32 version.
Perhaps a question to Lynn, the author of APRSIS32 in his support group
could help sleuth the issue.
73,
Randy
WF5X
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On Tue, Oct 20, 2020 at 12:55 PM wa5luy <wa5luy@...> wrote: Gentlemen,
My post was to see if anyone had any input as to how the digipeater /
Igate ,KD5BIG-1 sent a packet with my object information not a discussion
of weather some packets are annoying or superfluous to some people. Now
looking at the digipeater transmission that caused the problem it is the
only "<<UI>>" unnumbered information frame that I could see that was sent
by this station. I realize the packet is very corrupted involving several
digipeaters due to the band being open. I was hoping that someone with AX25
protocol knowledge might look at the packet and shed some light as to what
happened. Again here is the packet.
2020-10-17 04:36:47 CDT:
KD5BIG-1>APWW11,WINN,WIDE1,DEGRU25N,qAR,WA5LUY-10:;146.715-R*071108z3429.06N/09336.46WrPL
RQ1R,MONTGO,HOTSPR,WIDE2*/2: <<UI>>:
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Gentlemen,
My post was to see if anyone had any input as to how the digipeater / Igate ,KD5BIG-1 sent a packet with my object information not a discussion of weather some packets are annoying or superfluous to some people. Now looking at the digipeater transmission that caused the problem it is the only "<<UI>>" unnumbered information frame that I could see that was sent by this station. I realize the packet is very corrupted involving several digipeaters due to the band being open. I was hoping that someone with AX25 protocol knowledge might look at the packet and shed some light as to what happened. Again here is the packet.
2020-10-17 04:36:47 CDT: KD5BIG-1>APWW11,WINN,WIDE1,DEGRU25N,qAR,WA5LUY-10:;146.715-R*071108z3429.06N/09336.46WrPL RQ1R,MONTGO,HOTSPR,WIDE2*/2: <<UI>>:
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Well - for instance ...
I don't have them pushed out now, but when I do:
I have created 67 objects that are TACTICAL locations involved in an exercise we do here each year in the west valley. I painstakingly handmade all the locations of the sirens surrounding a tactical asset.
I have them in a file on my laptop and RUN them the week before the exercise and also during. I have plans on running them when we go out to check the markers for locations.
IF a beacon or object is suspected as being superfluous, it would behoove the observer to contact the originator for clarification before making ANY adjustments.
It is not my system or your system ... it is all of our system, collectively!
Kevin Wesolowski
KD7DFV
AEC, Maricopa County, AZ
PVGS EmComm Manager
KD7DFV@...
623-297-4169
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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto: [email protected]] On Behalf Of G8HUL Sent: Monday, October 19, 2020 09:39 To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [UI-View] Stolen Object I did say "pointless objects" which the vast majority are, I think you must agree. What proportion of the objects that you can see on your screen could possibly to do with a " tactical exercise"? Jeff -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of K Wesolowski KD7DFV Sent: 19 October 2020 16:59 To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [UI-View] Stolen Object Funny!! Pointless to you can be a tactical exercise for the person who places them there! Kevin KD7DFV On Mon, Oct 19, 2020, 01:16 G8HUL <g8hul@...> wrote: Yes , and some people get fed up with lots pointless objects
cluttering up their maps , so delete them, so before you send out
objects think are they really necessary!
73
Jeff G8HUL
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From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bill Vodall
Sent: 18 October 2020 18:29
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [UI-View] Stolen Object
That's the design of aprs. The idea is that any participant can
arrange resources as needed.
Just resend it and take it back.
On Sun, Oct 18, 2020, 9:03 AM wa5luy <wa5luy@...> wrote:
Apparently KD5BIG-1 retransmitted my object 146.715-R effectively
removing it from me. I have seen this before when someone is not
aware the object is in use. However looking at the raw packets it
seems his station is sending information to APRS-IS that should not
be sent. Can anyone explain what is going on to cause this. Here is when it occurred.
WA5LUY
2020-10-17 04:36:01 CDT: KD5BIG-1>APWW11,TCPIP*,qAC,T2GB:>170935zDX:
K5ARC-1 105.4mi 160<0xb0> 09:35 3006.28N 09054.44W
2020-10-17 04:36:40 CDT:
KD5BIG-1>APWW11,MONTGO,HOTSPR,WIDE2*,qAR,WA5LUY-10:>170930zVidalia,
KD5BIG-1>La
2020-10-17 04:36:47 CDT:
KD5BIG-1>APWW11,WINN,WIDE1,DEGRU25N,qAR,WA5LUY-10:;146.715-R*071108z
KD5BIG-1>34
KD5BIG-1>29.06N/09336.46WrPL
RQ1R,MONTGO,HOTSPR,WIDE2*/2: <<UI>>:
2020-10-17 04:39:03 CDT: KD5BIG-1>APWW11,TCPIP*,qAC,T2GB:>170939zDX:
K5ROK-1 107.0mi 306<0xb0> 09:39 3226.98N 09258.85W
2020-10-17 04:39:05 CDT:
KD5BIG-1>APWW11,MONTGO,HOTSPR,WIDE2*,qAR,WA5LUY-10:>170935Rok-1
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I did say "pointless objects" which the vast majority are, I think you must agree. What proportion of the objects that you can see on your screen could possibly to do with a " tactical exercise"?
Jeff
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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of K Wesolowski KD7DFV Sent: 19 October 2020 16:59 To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [UI-View] Stolen Object Funny!! Pointless to you can be a tactical exercise for the person who places them there! Kevin KD7DFV On Mon, Oct 19, 2020, 01:16 G8HUL <g8hul@...> wrote: Yes , and some people get fed up with lots pointless objects
cluttering up their maps , so delete them, so before you send out
objects think are they really necessary!
73
Jeff G8HUL
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bill Vodall
Sent: 18 October 2020 18:29
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [UI-View] Stolen Object
That's the design of aprs. The idea is that any participant can
arrange resources as needed.
Just resend it and take it back.
On Sun, Oct 18, 2020, 9:03 AM wa5luy <wa5luy@...> wrote:
Apparently KD5BIG-1 retransmitted my object 146.715-R effectively
removing it from me. I have seen this before when someone is not
aware the object is in use. However looking at the raw packets it
seems his station is sending information to APRS-IS that should not
be sent. Can anyone explain what is going on to cause this. Here is when it occurred.
WA5LUY
2020-10-17 04:36:01 CDT: KD5BIG-1>APWW11,TCPIP*,qAC,T2GB:>170935zDX:
K5ARC-1 105.4mi 160<0xb0> 09:35 3006.28N 09054.44W
2020-10-17 04:36:40 CDT:
KD5BIG-1>APWW11,MONTGO,HOTSPR,WIDE2*,qAR,WA5LUY-10:>170930zVidalia,
KD5BIG-1>La
2020-10-17 04:36:47 CDT:
KD5BIG-1>APWW11,WINN,WIDE1,DEGRU25N,qAR,WA5LUY-10:;146.715-R*071108z
KD5BIG-1>34
KD5BIG-1>29.06N/09336.46WrPL
RQ1R,MONTGO,HOTSPR,WIDE2*/2: <<UI>>:
2020-10-17 04:39:03 CDT: KD5BIG-1>APWW11,TCPIP*,qAC,T2GB:>170939zDX:
K5ROK-1 107.0mi 306<0xb0> 09:39 3226.98N 09258.85W
2020-10-17 04:39:05 CDT:
KD5BIG-1>APWW11,MONTGO,HOTSPR,WIDE2*,qAR,WA5LUY-10:>170935Rok-1
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Probably.? If you use individual friend filters (f/call/dist), you will get not only the specified call, but also all stations within dist km of that call.? Sometimes that's handy to see.? There is a limit of up to 9 friend filters.
Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32
PS.? Full filter definition at
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On 10/17/2020 9:46 PM, vk2na@... wrote: Hi,
I have a filter on my APRS Server as follows:
filter m/25 b/Call1*/Call2*
So I map stations within a 25km range, plus 2 (b/buddy) friends (who may be outside that range.)
Is this the best way to do this?
Cheers,
Dave
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Funny!!
Pointless to you can be a tactical exercise for the person who places them
there!
Kevin
KD7DFV
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On Mon, Oct 19, 2020, 01:16 G8HUL <g8hul@...> wrote: Yes , and some people get fed up with lots pointless objects cluttering up
their maps , so delete them, so before you send out objects think are they
really necessary!
73
Jeff G8HUL
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Bill Vodall
Sent: 18 October 2020 18:29
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [UI-View] Stolen Object
That's the design of aprs. The idea is that any participant can arrange
resources as needed.
Just resend it and take it back.
On Sun, Oct 18, 2020, 9:03 AM wa5luy <wa5luy@...> wrote:
Apparently KD5BIG-1 retransmitted my object 146.715-R effectively
removing it from me. I have seen this before when someone is not aware
the object is in use. However looking at the raw packets it seems his
station is sending information to APRS-IS that should not be sent. Can
anyone explain what is going on to cause this. Here is when it occurred.
WA5LUY
2020-10-17 04:36:01 CDT: KD5BIG-1>APWW11,TCPIP*,qAC,T2GB:>170935zDX:
K5ARC-1 105.4mi 160<0xb0> 09:35 3006.28N 09054.44W
2020-10-17 04:36:40 CDT:
KD5BIG-1>APWW11,MONTGO,HOTSPR,WIDE2*,qAR,WA5LUY-10:>170930zVidalia, La
2020-10-17 04:36:47 CDT:
KD5BIG-1>APWW11,WINN,WIDE1,DEGRU25N,qAR,WA5LUY-10:;146.715-R*071108z34
KD5BIG-1>29.06N/09336.46WrPL
RQ1R,MONTGO,HOTSPR,WIDE2*/2: <<UI>>:
2020-10-17 04:39:03 CDT: KD5BIG-1>APWW11,TCPIP*,qAC,T2GB:>170939zDX:
K5ROK-1 107.0mi 306<0xb0> 09:39 3226.98N 09258.85W
2020-10-17 04:39:05 CDT:
KD5BIG-1>APWW11,MONTGO,HOTSPR,WIDE2*,qAR,WA5LUY-10:>170935Rok-1
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Yes , and some people get fed up with lots pointless objects cluttering up their maps , so delete them, so before you send out objects think are they really necessary!
73
Jeff G8HUL
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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of Bill Vodall Sent: 18 October 2020 18:29 To: [email protected]Subject: Re: [UI-View] Stolen Object That's the design of aprs. The idea is that any participant can arrange resources as needed. Just resend it and take it back. On Sun, Oct 18, 2020, 9:03 AM wa5luy <wa5luy@...> wrote: Apparently KD5BIG-1 retransmitted my object 146.715-R effectively
removing it from me. I have seen this before when someone is not aware
the object is in use. However looking at the raw packets it seems his
station is sending information to APRS-IS that should not be sent. Can
anyone explain what is going on to cause this. Here is when it occurred.
WA5LUY
2020-10-17 04:36:01 CDT: KD5BIG-1>APWW11,TCPIP*,qAC,T2GB:>170935zDX:
K5ARC-1 105.4mi 160<0xb0> 09:35 3006.28N 09054.44W
2020-10-17 04:36:40 CDT:
KD5BIG-1>APWW11,MONTGO,HOTSPR,WIDE2*,qAR,WA5LUY-10:>170930zVidalia, La
2020-10-17 04:36:47 CDT:
KD5BIG-1>APWW11,WINN,WIDE1,DEGRU25N,qAR,WA5LUY-10:;146.715-R*071108z34
KD5BIG-1>29.06N/09336.46WrPL
RQ1R,MONTGO,HOTSPR,WIDE2*/2: <<UI>>:
2020-10-17 04:39:03 CDT: KD5BIG-1>APWW11,TCPIP*,qAC,T2GB:>170939zDX:
K5ROK-1 107.0mi 306<0xb0> 09:39 3226.98N 09258.85W
2020-10-17 04:39:05 CDT:
KD5BIG-1>APWW11,MONTGO,HOTSPR,WIDE2*,qAR,WA5LUY-10:>170935Rok-1
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I have had something similar happen to me. I have had my objects simply
removed! I contacted him directly and he goes "oh, did you do those on
purpose?".
Contact the ham directly for information and clarification
Kevin
KD7DFV
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On Sun, Oct 18, 2020, 09:03 wa5luy <wa5luy@...> wrote: Apparently KD5BIG-1 retransmitted my object 146.715-R effectively removing
it from me. I have seen this before when someone is not aware the object is
in use. However looking at the raw packets it seems his station is sending
information to APRS-IS that should not be sent. Can anyone explain what is
going on to cause this. Here is when it occurred.
WA5LUY
2020-10-17 04:36:01 CDT: KD5BIG-1>APWW11,TCPIP*,qAC,T2GB:>170935zDX:
K5ARC-1 105.4mi 160<0xb0> 09:35 3006.28N 09054.44W
2020-10-17 04:36:40 CDT:
KD5BIG-1>APWW11,MONTGO,HOTSPR,WIDE2*,qAR,WA5LUY-10:>170930zVidalia, La
2020-10-17 04:36:47 CDT:
KD5BIG-1>APWW11,WINN,WIDE1,DEGRU25N,qAR,WA5LUY-10:;146.715-R*071108z3429.06N/09336.46WrPL
RQ1R,MONTGO,HOTSPR,WIDE2*/2: <<UI>>:
2020-10-17 04:39:03 CDT: KD5BIG-1>APWW11,TCPIP*,qAC,T2GB:>170939zDX:
K5ROK-1 107.0mi 306<0xb0> 09:39 3226.98N 09258.85W
2020-10-17 04:39:05 CDT:
KD5BIG-1>APWW11,MONTGO,HOTSPR,WIDE2*,qAR,WA5LUY-10:>170935Rok-1
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That's the design of aprs. The idea is that any participant can arrange
resources as needed.
Just resend it and take it back.
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On Sun, Oct 18, 2020, 9:03 AM wa5luy <wa5luy@...> wrote: Apparently KD5BIG-1 retransmitted my object 146.715-R effectively removing
it from me. I have seen this before when someone is not aware the object is
in use. However looking at the raw packets it seems his station is sending
information to APRS-IS that should not be sent. Can anyone explain what is
going on to cause this. Here is when it occurred.
WA5LUY
2020-10-17 04:36:01 CDT: KD5BIG-1>APWW11,TCPIP*,qAC,T2GB:>170935zDX:
K5ARC-1 105.4mi 160<0xb0> 09:35 3006.28N 09054.44W
2020-10-17 04:36:40 CDT:
KD5BIG-1>APWW11,MONTGO,HOTSPR,WIDE2*,qAR,WA5LUY-10:>170930zVidalia, La
2020-10-17 04:36:47 CDT:
KD5BIG-1>APWW11,WINN,WIDE1,DEGRU25N,qAR,WA5LUY-10:;146.715-R*071108z3429.06N/09336.46WrPL
RQ1R,MONTGO,HOTSPR,WIDE2*/2: <<UI>>:
2020-10-17 04:39:03 CDT: KD5BIG-1>APWW11,TCPIP*,qAC,T2GB:>170939zDX:
K5ROK-1 107.0mi 306<0xb0> 09:39 3226.98N 09258.85W
2020-10-17 04:39:05 CDT:
KD5BIG-1>APWW11,MONTGO,HOTSPR,WIDE2*,qAR,WA5LUY-10:>170935Rok-1
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Apparently KD5BIG-1 retransmitted my object 146.715-R effectively removing it from me. I have seen this before when someone is not aware the object is in use. However looking at the raw packets it seems his station is sending information to APRS-IS that should not be sent. Can anyone explain what is going on to cause this. Here is when it occurred.
WA5LUY
2020-10-17 04:36:01 CDT: KD5BIG-1>APWW11,TCPIP*,qAC,T2GB:>170935zDX: K5ARC-1 105.4mi 160<0xb0> 09:35 3006.28N 09054.44W
2020-10-17 04:36:40 CDT: KD5BIG-1>APWW11,MONTGO,HOTSPR,WIDE2*,qAR,WA5LUY-10:>170930zVidalia, La
2020-10-17 04:36:47 CDT: KD5BIG-1>APWW11,WINN,WIDE1,DEGRU25N,qAR,WA5LUY-10:;146.715-R*071108z3429.06N/09336.46WrPL RQ1R,MONTGO,HOTSPR,WIDE2*/2: <<UI>>:
2020-10-17 04:39:03 CDT: KD5BIG-1>APWW11,TCPIP*,qAC,T2GB:>170939zDX: K5ROK-1 107.0mi 306<0xb0> 09:39 3226.98N 09258.85W
2020-10-17 04:39:05 CDT: KD5BIG-1>APWW11,MONTGO,HOTSPR,WIDE2*,qAR,WA5LUY-10:>170935Rok-1
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Hi,
I have a filter on my APRS Server as follows:
filter m/25 b/Call1*/Call2*
So I map stations within a 25km range, plus 2 (b/buddy) friends (who may be outside that range.)
Is this the best way to do this?
Cheers,
Dave
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The following files have been uploaded to
the Files area of the [email protected] group.
By: Migliari Adriano
The following files have been uploaded to
the Files area of the [email protected] group.
By: Migliari Adriano
The following files have been uploaded to
the Files area of the [email protected] group.
By: Migliari Adriano
The following files have been uploaded to
the Files area of the [email protected] group.
By: Migliari Adriano
The following files have been uploaded to
the Files area of the [email protected] group.
By: Migliari Adriano
The following files have been uploaded to
the Files area of the [email protected] group.
By: Migliari Adriano
Description:
REGISTRATION KEY
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I moved the UI-View support group over to groups.io almost a year ago. Unfortunately, it was done literally the day after they doubled the price of moving everything over in one go!
Other than that, it has definitely been a much better experience here on groups.io. However, after inquiries from Adriano IK2CBD about not being able to create a folder and upload files to it, I just discovered that for the past year, members have not been allowed to do this! Please accept my apologies, but this has now been corrected.
--
73 Keith VE7GDH
"I may be lost, but I know exactly where I am!"
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73 Keith VE7GDH
"I may be lost, but I know exactly where I am!"
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Added Folder /IK2CBD Add-On: UI-View features and user guides (mainly in Italian).
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Adriano IK2CBD wrote... This is a trial msg You message to the group came through OK. Let me know how you make out placing the files. -- 73 Keith VE7GDH "I may be lost, but I know exactly where I am!" -- -- 73 Keith VE7GDH "I may be lost, but I know exactly where I am!"
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Keith
Ciao.
This is a trial msg, hoping to trigger all things.
Ciaoooooo adriano
Adriano Migliari
Email: <mailto:adriano.migliari@...> adriano.migliari@...
, <mailto:adriano.migliari@...> adriano.migliari@...
Skype: ik2cbd-adriano-1938
039.9903398, 327798487
Manteniamo le distanze, ma restiamo vicini.
Keep physical distance, stay/remain socially connected
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Re: Igate not uploading to IS
Hey Monty,
I guess I wasn't very clear with my question. It has nothing to do with local stations like mine kc7rjk-xx, it seems the EUGENE iGate-ed packets aren't being accepted by the IS servers. If you look at you'll see that there is no list for packets sent to the IS anymore. Looking at any path data will tell you the same for all of the stations around EUGENE digi/iGate.
My thought Igates (recently) need a call sign instead of location to be accepted into the network. This was something I dealt with before and I'm guessing the powers at be have changed the IS filters.
I would like to keep running the EUGENE digi iGate and wx as it is. So users have an idea where object packets ect are coming from. Most of us who have played with aprs for 20+ years understand this.
Best regards,
Ross
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On Oct 1, 2020 9:27 AM, Monty Wilson <jwilson16@...> wrote:
According to what I see EUGENE has seen the following.? Two are within the
past 24 hours.
KC7RJK - last position 2020-09-11 22:15:33 CDT
KC7RJK-1 - last position 2020-09-12 20:26:30 CDT
KC7RJK-2? - last position 2020-10-01 11:12:31 CDT
KC7RJK-7 - last position 2020-10-01 03:37:26 CDT (7h37m ago)
KC7RJK-8 - 2020-09-29 20:11:17 CDT (1d 15h4m ago) EUGENE
Monty, NR0A
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] <[email protected]> On Behalf Of mytruckownsit
Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 11:54 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [UI-View] Igate not uploading to IS
Hello all,
My (EUGENE) iGate/Full Digi is no longer uploading packets the IS server.
It
must have quit in the last few months after uploading flawlessly for many
many years.
It looks like it's ignoring incoming EUGENE iGate packets.
Should I try different server? But if my understanding is correct they all
follow the same rules.
Any thoughts?
Regards,
Ross kc7rjk
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Re: Igate not uploading to IS
According to what I see EUGENE has seen the following. Two are within the
past 24 hours.
KC7RJK - last position 2020-09-11 22:15:33 CDT
KC7RJK-1 - last position 2020-09-12 20:26:30 CDT
KC7RJK-2 - last position 2020-10-01 11:12:31 CDT
KC7RJK-7 - last position 2020-10-01 03:37:26 CDT (7h37m ago)
KC7RJK-8 - 2020-09-29 20:11:17 CDT (1d 15h4m ago) EUGENE
Monty, NR0A
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-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] < [email protected]> On Behalf Of mytruckownsit Sent: Wednesday, September 30, 2020 11:54 PM To: [email protected]Subject: [UI-View] Igate not uploading to IS Hello all, My (EUGENE) iGate/Full Digi is no longer uploading packets the IS server. It must have quit in the last few months after uploading flawlessly for many many years. It looks like it's ignoring incoming EUGENE iGate packets. Should I try different server? But if my understanding is correct they all follow the same rules. Any thoughts? Regards, Ross kc7rjk
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Igate not uploading to IS
Hello all,
My (EUGENE) iGate/Full Digi is no longer uploading packets the IS server. It
must have quit in the last few months after uploading flawlessly for many
many years.
It looks like it's ignoring incoming EUGENE iGate packets.
Should I try different server? But if my understanding is correct they all
follow the same rules.
Any thoughts?
Regards,
Ross kc7rjk
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Re: UI-View32 Invalid Registration
You don't use "your" name you use "online". I got caught on that one, read
the instructions carefully, I had to reread.
73's
Jim
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On Tue, Sep 29, 2020 at 7:25 PM <jro2017@...> wrote: Hello,
I received a registration number, but I receive the message "invalid
registration number." I typed my name and call sign exactly as entered for
registration.
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wa5luy
David VK2NA
