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File - Posting guidelines

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The UI-View Group is very active. Most already do so,
but here are some some guidelines to follow.
 
1. Civility... this is practiced well by our members!

2. Sign your messages with your name and callsign.

3. Only post messages and responses that are relevant to UI-View.

4. Use plain text for messages sent to the UI-View support list.
When you address some 5000 recipients, you cannot know what their
email readers do with HTML formatted messages. Some will experience
unreadability.

5. IMPORTANT: When replying to a posting (message), kindly delete
all unnecessary text including the trailing text. Only leave the 
poster's name, callsign and the time stamp, and the text from
the prior message about which you are commenting, and then trim
the rest. When viewing messages in the Yahoo web based interface,
the command [Up Thread] at the top of the message can be used, and
many email clients can group messages by thread also. Some members
have slow connections or pay for bandwidth. Brevity can often
also improve the clarity of your message. Do not top post... i.e.
do not type your reply above the quoted text.

6. When replying to a post, please decide if your comment should
go to the entire group of about 5000 or directly to the author.
Please think before replying to the group... replies like "I sure
do agree with that" do not add much to the group. Send thoughts
like those directly to the poster please.

7. Postings of sale or swapping of items are not wanted.

8. New members are all moderated for a number of postings. If the 
messages follow the guidelines, they are approved and the member 
is changed to un-moderated status.
 
This is a partially moderated list, i.e., only the user's first
messages are moderated, but all messages are monitored after posting.
If an un-moderated posting is found by the moderators to have a
problem, then the poster is changed to moderated status and in
most cases also contacted directly to resolve whatever has caused
the problem.

Actions are taken against those that chronically violate the rules.
The reason for this form of moderation is to block spammers from the
list and it is working well.

9. Do not add disclaimers to your posts that (1) restrict the ability
of other members to use the information you post, (2) claim a copyright
to your post, or (3) to claim any type of "rights" as a consequence of
another member replying to your post either directly to you or to the group.

10. Do not use anti-spam tools like challenge/response; the moderators 
will not respond, and since messages to you then will bounce, you most 
probably will be removed as a user of the group.

File - About Bouncing (Admin message)

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#68851

This message is sent to all new members, and to all members
every now and then. It has been revised as bounce reports have
changed a bit.

Any of us could experience no longer receiving email from the
UI-View support list. You might want to print this message and
review it if you stop receiving messages from the UI-View list.

If you stop receiving messages from the UI-View list, suspect
that either...

1) this or some other Yahoo group that you are a member of is
sending email which some spamblocker system regard as spam or 
junk mail (quite a lot of these reports since summer 2009).

2) it may be that your email account has filled up with unread 
messages or that the account on your mail server has ran out of
storage space. Read or delete the old messages on your mail server.

3) Some MSN or Hotmail accounts, and others such as arrl.net,
qsl.net which are used as a forwarding address from time to time
cannot forward to your primary address. When this hapens, the
Yahoo group receives an error message with something like
"impossible to relay to xxx" and you are then in the "bounced"
list. There are increasing numbers of bounces from some service
providers about messages which are blocked by them for policy
reasons.

4) You or your email provider have set up a challenge-and-response
system for those sending e-mail to you. The moderators will not
send replies to such challenges. You should select another
address for your list membership(s).

Sorry, but we cannot investigate every one of these blockings.
Please be aware that if you haven't received list messages
for some days, and reactivation requests are not reaching
you, or not answered by you, your account at the UI-View
list may be deleted. It may deleted if several bounces occur
in less than a week or two. It will also be deleted if the
bounce report says that your address is invalid, discontinued,
or unknown. Be aware that the bounce can relate to messages
from other lists than the UI-View list if you are a member
of other Yahoo groups.

If your membership is deleted, you will not be able to log
into the Yahoo group. If you try and send email to the group,
it will be rejected. However, you can subscribe again with a
valid and working email account by sending an empty email to
ui-view-subscribe@....

If you are away for some time, you might want to set your
account to temporarily receive only special messages or
even no email at all, but we recommend that still receive 
special messages. You can log into the Yahoo group when you
return and change it back to daily digest or normal email.

Note: A member may send reactivation requests to himself/herself
from the Email Preferences section of My Groups.

73 and good luck - your UI-View group moderators

Re: UI-Weather FTP errors

#68850

My problem publishing UI-Weather to my web site turned out to be a Windows Firewall problem. Once I opened set UIWeather to public and private, the data goes through to the correct location.
Thanks for the hints.
Tyler WB7DDL

Re: UI-Weather FTP errors

#68849

UI-Weather publishes to my web site using ftp from what I can determine,
it's only very simple, no encryption, etc. Heavyweather Publisher ftps to
the website ok. Filezilla works ok too and I can transfer the image and
html file using that, but it's supposed to be automatic using UI-Weather.?
My firewall says UI-Weather can go through.

I'll try your suggestion of a local address and see what happens. Thanks.

*Tyler Parsons*
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On 11/28/2018 20:18, Matt matted@... [ui-view] wrote:
So the source files are good, but the ftp'ed files show up with a name
but 0 bytes. That usually means that there is a firewall between them.
FTP is a very bad protocol for firewalls because it opens two channels;
a command channel (that's how your file name got created), but then a
data channel gets opened back to the source from the destination (this
is how the data gets in the file). Unless your firewall allows for that,
you get exactly what you see.

Now, if your UI-Weather and your website are on the same host, try
ftp'ing to 127.0.0.1 (or localhost) instead of your real ip address, I
don't think most desktop firewalls will stop localhost traffic. Another
way is to use what's called "passive" ftp, both the source and target
have to support and see your specific ftp implementation to see how to
invoke it (most are ftp -P). Worse case you could try to use scp instead
of ftp.

You might also try the ftp manually, just like UI-Weather is doing it to
see if you get error messages that could point you in the right direction.

Good Luck,

Matt


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Re: UI-Weather FTP errors

#68848

So the source files are good, but the ftp'ed files show up with a name
but 0 bytes. That usually means that there is a firewall between them.
FTP is a very bad protocol for firewalls because it opens two channels;
a command channel (that's how your file name got created), but then a
data channel gets opened back to the source from the destination (this
is how the data gets in the file). Unless your firewall allows for that,
you get exactly what you see.

Now, if your UI-Weather and your website are on the same host, try
ftp'ing to 127.0.0.1 (or localhost) instead of your real ip address, I
don't think most desktop firewalls will stop localhost traffic. Another
way is to use what's called "passive" ftp, both the source and target
have to support and see your specific ftp implementation to see how to
invoke it (most are ftp -P). Worse case you could try to use scp instead
of ftp.

You might also try the ftp manually, just like UI-Weather is doing it to
see if you get error messages that could point you in the right direction.

Good Luck,

Matt

On 11/27/2018 11:40 PM, tparsons@... [ui-view] wrote:

UI-Weather WAS working fine producing a UIWXLive.jpg image and ftping
it to my web site. A couple of months ago something changed (my
fault?) - it still ftp'd the UIWXLive.html file and the image file to
my website, but the filesizes of both were 0.



I've reloaded the original version of UI-Weather and the upgrade (copy
the upgrade into the directory, right?). I'm now back to where I was
with the filesizes being 0 on my website. When I check the File Copy,
the files are created in the designated directory and are OK.


Something is obviously missing or broken. Any help will be appreciated.


Tyler WB7DDL




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UI-Weather FTP errors

#68847

UI-Weather WAS working fine producing a UIWXLive.jpg image and ftping it to my web site. A couple of months ago something changed (my fault?) - it still ftp'd the UIWXLive.html file and the image file to my website, but the filesizes of both were  0. 

 I've reloaded the original version of UI-Weather and the upgrade (copy the upgrade into the directory, right?). I'm now back to where I was with the filesizes being 0 on my website.  When I check the File Copy, the files are created in the designated directory and are OK.
 
 Something is obviously missing or broken. Any help will be appreciated.
 
 Tyler WB7DDL

Re: UI-Weather display error

#68846

I see that there are separate skins for the WS-2300 which correctly label the graphs. substituting those fixed the problem.
 
---In ui-view@..., <tparsons@...> wrote :

 The UI-Weather panel by M0CYP seems to have some mislabelling in it. The top-center panel is labelled Wind Gust in MPH in my display but actually the data is for Indoor Humidity. Andy's screen shot shows Indoor Humidity, but not in % but rather MPH. Does anyone know how to fix this and either put Wind Gust data in, or change the label to Indoor Humidity? Since Indoor temperature is not reported, I'm not sure why IH would be of interest. I'd rather have Wind Gust. 
 
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