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For many decades now, long-range HF APRS operation has been done almost
exclusively on 30 meters.聽聽 It will beam APRS posits over long distances (2000
miles/3000 Km or more), but it does have a problem.聽聽 At 10 MHz, there is
little to no NVIS (high angle) propagation. As a result, 30 meters has a skip
zone of 250-300 miles (400-500 Km) most of the time. In other words, you
normally DON'T HEAR stations closer than this on 30M.

For some time now, I have felt that NVIS (Near-Vertical Incidence Skywave)
propagation (high take-off angles that will bounce signals back to earth close
to the originating station (but on the other sides of mountains) would be
useful in large areas of the Great Basin/inter-mountain west. 聽 During numerous
trips between Los Angeles and the mid-west over the past several decades, I
have frequently noted the difficulty in being heard out of deep canyons and
from secondary roads on the other side of mountain ridge lines from major
Interstate highways.

Propagation on 60 meters is almost the exact opposite of 30 meters in this
respect.聽 60 meters does NVIS propagation very well, and will provide coverage
from 0 to 300 miles (500 Km) most of the day quite consistently. 聽 This summer,
I tested the potential of 60 for APRS applications on two road trips.聽 The
first was from my QTH in central Michigan (East Lansing) to Rice Lake,
Wisconsin about 400 miles (640 Km) to the northwest. 聽聽 The other was the
annual 1100 mile (1700 Km) trek to the Evergreen (Colorado) Jazz Festival.

The mobile setup was a Yaesu FT-891 transceiver running into a MFJ monoband
whip for 60M (that appears to be a rebranded HamStick) mounted on a split-ball
body mount on the left-rear part of the body of my 2006 Jetta TDI. The transmit
power was about 15 watts.聽 [I could have run the FT-891 at a full 100 watts
output.. However, since the 60-meter channels are shared ham/non-ham use, I
wanted to keep the ERP low enough that others could talk over my beacons if
necessary.]

The APRS application running on the mobile Panasonic Toughbook was G4HYG's
"APRS Messenger". This soundcard modem application can function as a mobile
tracker, beaconing alternately on 300-baud classic AX.25 HF packet, and on
MFSK16. Messenger's MFSK mode actually sends the payload of an APRS-style AX.25
packet, including the packet-style path headers and checksum at the end, over
MFSK16. 聽聽 For an additional comparison, I had a TinyTrack 3 set for HF
300-baud mode and MIc-E format to evaluate the relative effectiveness of the
longer plain-text posits sent by Messenger and the shorter Mic-e packets sent
by the TinyTrack.聽 The callsigns were WA8LMF-6 for the AX.25 mode, WA8LMF-66
for the MFSK mode and WA8LMF-2 for the TinyTrack Mic-E beacons.聽聽 [I was also
beaconing WA8LMF (no SSID) on conventional 144.39 two-meters APRS with my
Kenwood D700.]

The fixed station/igate at my East Lansing QTH was a Yaesu FT-857D connected to
a 105' (32 meter) center-fed dipole fed by 450-ohm ladder line and an Icom AH-2
auto-coupler. The software was identical to the mobile (APRS Messenger and
UIview) running on an Acer E3-111 "netbook" mini-laptop that runs Win 7 on a
dual-core Pentium 4.聽 [I like these mini-laptops for APRS applications, where
you leave computers running 24/7 for weeks at a time, because they consume only
9-10 watts.]聽 I also had the TightVNC remote control program running on the
Acer so I could view the machine's screen and and tweak settings remotely while
on the road.聽聽聽 The beacons successfully found their way to findu.com and
APRS.fi, courtesy of my igate.

These tests took place on US "Channel 5" of the fixed-frequency channelized
60-meter band. This is 5403.5 KHz USB. 聽 Partly because it is the shortest
wavelength channel on 60M so the mobile whip is the "least inefficient".聽 And
partly because by informal convention, "Channel 5" is the "data channel" on
60.聽 [There is no segregation between voice and non-voice modes on 60 as there
is on the other HF bands.聽 You can legally聽 use any mode on any of the 5
channels.]

______________________________________________________________

The results more than met my expectations. The trip to Rice Lake, WI was a loop
- outbound "over the top" of Lake Michigan via Michigan's Upper Peninsula,
while the return was via Madison WI and Chicago around the "bottom" of Lake
Michigan.聽 The 60-meter coverage was essentially continuous. In remoter parts
of the Michigan UP and north-eastern Wisconsin, where two meters heard nothing,
the 60-meter posits just kept coming in.

Another variable comes into play. Propagation on 60M does change with the time
of day and day vs night.聽 On the outbound trip, the shortest hops from the
mobile to the igate were in daylight, starting at about 0800 EDT (local time).聽
I arrived in Rice Lake (greatest distance) at about 2100 EDT; i.e. just after
dusk. 聽 On the return trip, exactly the opposite with the longest hops in the
AM daylight, and the shorter hops well after after dark as I approached home.聽
The closer hops (under about 150 miles/240 Km) started failing on the return
trip because it was now well after sunset; i.e. 2200 - 2400 hrs EDT.

The trip to Colorado was perhaps more interesting because 1)聽 It was a much
greater distance from home and 2) The route was much closer to being a constant
latitude. [Since HF propagation is the result of the upper atmosphere being
ionized by solar radiation and particles, and because those particles are
deflected by the earth's magnetic field, HF propagation effects are quite
sensitive to latitude north or south.聽 By driving a nearly straight east-west
line, one keeps at least one variable in the test more-or-less constant.]聽
After driving from central Michigan to Chicago and joining I-80, the rest of
the trip was almost due west along I-80 to the Colorado border.

The 1100 mile trip from MI to Denver takes two days.聽 The mid-point of the trip
is at the west side of Des Moines, Iowa, where I always spend the first night
about 550 miles (880 Km) from home.聽 All along the route, I would periodically
stop to connect to WiFi at gas stations and fast-food joints to check my own
UI-Webserver via VNC and APRS.fi to see if I was reaching my solitary 60-meter
igate in Michigan.聽 [The ultimate convenience is in Iowa,, where every rest
area on the Interstate has free WiFi beamed into the parking lot from a 9'
fiberglass 2.4 GHz collinear whip on top of the building. You can easily get
WiFi from a laptop inside your parked car.]

I had expected that the signal would start dropping out at 300-400 miles (
500-650 Km) from home, but I had constant coverage on 60M for the entire day's
drive..聽 To my surprise, the signals were still booming into my Michigan igate
when I arrived in Des Moines at about 1900 hrs EDT.聽 After check-in, I left the
gear running in the parked car, while I played with the Internet in my motel
room.聽 [I have 110 AH of sealed AGM batteries in the trunk of the car, isolated
from the starting battery, so I can safely leave electronics on for many hours
after engine-off.] The Michigan igate's reception started failing about 2300
hrs EDT. (At this point I was in US Central time where it was 2200 hrs local.)
聽 Most striking, I noticed the AX.25 beacons starting to fail about 45 minutes
earlier than the MFSK16 ones. It dramatically demonstrated the enormous
superiority (10-15 dB advantage) of MFSK16 over classic two-tone FSK 300-baud
packet under weak-signal conditions.

I had assumed that I would be out of range of my home station on 60 meters well
before the end of the first day, and had intended to switch the mobile setup to
30 meters that evening, for the rest of the trip. (I had an identical HamStick
for 30 meters stowed in the car.)聽 Instead, I kept the setup on 60 meters the
morning of the second day.聽 When I departed after breakfast at 0900 hrs EDT
(0800 local), no beacons were being heard by my Michigan igate. By the time I
stopped at another Iowa WiFi rest stop about an hour down the road, in the
Avoca, Iowa area, the MFSK beacons were coming in again.聽 By the time I arrived
in the Omaha, Nebraska area, the AX.25 FSK beacons were coming in also. 聽聽 Both
formats continued to be received until I reached the Lincoln, NE area, about an
hour west of Omaha. At this point, I did switch to 30 meters.

On the return trip, the last night on the road was in Avoca, Iowa where I
switched from 30 meters back to 60. Again, I saw no evidence of my beacons
reaching my igate in the morning until about 0090 hrs local (1000 hrs EDT). .聽
Again, the MFSK16 beacons "opened the band" with the AX.25 ones starting to
appear about an hour later.

_________________________________________________________

The final conclusions are:聽 1)聽 60 meters CAN provide quite consistent APRS
coverage from 0 to 400 miles (640 Km) or so.聽聽 2)聽 The MFSK mode has a huge
advantage over classic 300-baud FSK, providing nearly two more hours a day of
usable progation.聽聽聽聽 Sometime this fall, I will be making a trip EASTWARD on
I-80 crossing the Appalachian Mountains to Philadelphia. This will be an
opportunity to try NVIS propagation out of some smallish valleys in the eastern
mountains. 聽 Ultimately, I would like to try absolutely maximizing the NVIS
receive performance by building a turnstile antenna consisting of two 60-meter
dipoles crossed, supported as inverted-Vs on the same mast, and fed in
quadrature with coax phasing lines.聽 Stay tuned!

__________________________________________________________

Stephen H. Smith聽聽聽 wa8lmf (at) aol.com
Skype:聽聽聽聽聽聽聽 WA8LMF
EchoLink:聽 Node #聽 14400聽 [Think bottom of the 2-meter band]
Home Page:聽聽聽聽聽聽聽聽聽

Live Off-The-Air APRS Activity Maps
聽聽 <>

Long-Range APRS on 30 Meters HF
聽聽 <>

Hi Stephen

I have revived it for a test phase to see what Google will bill me.
For my maps I use three Google API.

73 de Gerhard, F5VAG
callsign at name dot paris



On Sun, Aug 19, 2018 at 8:23 PM 'Stephen H. Smith' wa8lmf@... [ui-view]
<ui-view@...> wrote:

One of the functions in the UIview UI-Webserver had produced a set of
three
static maps at different scales (or a single zoomable map), when asking
for
details of an individual station.

Like this:

<>

F5VAG provided the "magic code" to patch the UI-Webserver to do this, by
making
calls to scripts hosted on his website. The details and snippets to be
pasted into your own UI-Webserver code are here:

<>

About two days ago, this UI-Webserver feature stopped working when Google
changed the API (Application Programming Interface) for their map
servers. I
vaguely remember some warnings about this being imminent some months
ago.
The F5VAG page above seems to have last been updated several years ago,
and
doesn't reflect whatever changes will be required.

findu.com was briefly "broken" by this change, but seems now to working
again.

What do UI-Webserver users need to do now?

----------------------------------------------------------

Stephen H. Smith wa8lmf (at) aol.com
Skype: WA8LMF
EchoLink: Node # 14400 [Think bottom of the 2-meter band]
Home Page:

Live Off-The-Air APRS Activity Maps
<>

Long-Range APRS on 30 Meters HF
<>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

One likely approach child be to see how other APRS mapping clients make similar calls to the database for Open Street Maps.

Many some ham and many non-ham applications use OSM data in this way.

It's possible some examples may be drawn from, or advice requested from, those putting about with xastir or APRS CE.

73, John
VA7OTC

One of the functions in the UIview UI-Webserver had produced a set of three
static maps at different scales (or a single zoomable map), when asking for
details of an individual station.

Like this:

聽聽聽聽 <>

F5VAG provided the "magic code" to patch the UI-Webserver to do this, by making
calls to scripts hosted on his website.聽聽聽 The details and snippets to be
pasted into your own UI-Webserver code are here:

<>

About two days ago, this UI-Webserver feature stopped working when Google
changed the API (Application Programming Interface) for their map servers.聽聽 I
vaguely remember some warnings about this being imminent some months ago.聽聽聽
The F5VAG page above seems to have last been updated several years ago, and
doesn't reflect whatever changes will be required.

findu.com was briefly "broken" by this change, but seems now to working again.

What do UI-Webserver users need to do now?


-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Stephen H. Smith聽聽聽 wa8lmf (at) aol.com
Skype:聽聽聽聽聽聽聽 WA8LMF
EchoLink:聽 Node #聽 14400聽 [Think bottom of the 2-meter band]
Home Page:聽聽聽聽聽聽聽聽聽

Live Off-The-Air APRS Activity Maps
聽聽 <>

Long-Range APRS on 30 Meters HF
聽聽 <>

Hello Group.

I have not used in few years and reloading UI-View and Pserver9.
Opening UI-View and clicking on Maps, load a map, clicked Pmapserver

An error occurred, the system error msg is component MP2011PM.OCX or one of its dependencies not currently registered: a file is missing or invalid.

Also I can鈥檛 find the Pmapserver.exe to open program to verify if I鈥檓 still registered? I have a file InitPmapServer9 but does nothing?

Using PMapServer9.0.0.19

Any suggestions or help would be wonderful
Also running Windows 10


Mike Boyea, KE4KMG

Gervais -

May I make a suggestion? If you post the frequency in the object name, using 7 of the 9 characters available, plus the two character state or province code, as one of mine, 鈥�442.300MD,鈥� we can search for all of the repeater objects in that band and that province or state using APRS.FI. For instance, a search on ?4*QC with 鈥�?鈥� being the common one-character wildcard and 鈥�*鈥� representing a text string of any length, you should see all of the 2-meter and 70-centimeter repeater objects in Quebec (QC). But I only see one, 146.64-QC, and it is in Alberta. Oh well, maybe we can export the idea.

It works in Maryland although it鈥檚 not yet universally accepted here, either. If you use ?4*MD you will find lots of active repeaters in Maryland. A mobile operator with a TM-D710 or FTM-350 or -400, can sort the list on the panel and find the nearest repeater or other station on that band, and tune to it directly IF THE BEACON FORMAT conforms to the NEXT PARAGRAPH.

If the beacon text in your object or any other APRS packet follows this format EXACTLY, you can automatically tune to the exact frequency, PL tone and offset of the object or other station鈥檚 voice channel. My example for 442.300MD is 鈥�442.300MHz T107 +500 鈥�. It must be in that exact format, including correct upper and lower case letters. I show other info after that string and one space, including the repeater call sign and other features, YSF and AMS. That added info has no affect on the Auto-Tune or QSY feature in those radios.

One problem arises if the object is transmitted with APRSIS32 and the beacon includes 鈥淧HG鈥� (power-height-gain). That function corrupts the format of the packet so it cannot be used for auto-tune. From my standpoint as a mobile APRS operator, I really need to know how to tune to the station instead of its antenna height and gain, or how much power it鈥檚 pumping into the feed line.

73, Gordon Davids / WJ3K

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Bonjour Lynn

yes it is my QTH now.


73/s

Gervais



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De : ui-view@... <ui-view@...> de la part de 'Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr)' ldeffenb@... [ui-view] <ui-view@...>
Envoy茅 : 10 ao没t 2018 16:12
脌 : ui-view@...
Objet : Re: [UI-View] overlays??



If this is your object, then it must be right!

!call=a%2FVE2RXY-R&timerange=3600&tail=3600

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

Gervais VE2CKN wrote...

can you see VE2RXY-R

I can see VE2RXY-R generated by VE2RWO-10, and anyone seeing the object will know where it is, but it doesn't contain useful information like the frequency, offset and tone.

4726.18N/06905.56WrECHOLIINK 150779 RIVIERE-BLEUE,QUEBEC

Give this a try. The lat/long would be the same as you previously entered.

VE2RXY-R 145.4500MHz T141 -060 Riviere Bleue

In the object editor in UI-View, the call sign (VE2RXY-R) would be entered in the IDENTIFIER field. The "145.4500MHz T141 -060 Riviere Bleue" would be entered in the COMMENT field.

Once it has beaconed on the air, look at the object in an FTM-400, FTM-350, TM-D710 or TH-D72 and try to QSY / TUNE to the repeater's frequency. Yaesu calls it QSY. Kenwood calls it TUNE.

Right now on 144.390 MHz in my location, I see exactly one repeater object (VE7RSI-R) along with 16 FTM-400s which are advertising their frequency, and 4 FTM-350s.

--
73 Keith VE7GDH
"I may be lost, but I know exactly where I am!"

If this is your object, then it must be right!

!call=a%2FVE2RXY-R&timerange=3600&tail=3600

Lynn (D) - KJ4ERJ - Author of APRSISCE for Windows Mobile and Win32

keith


can you see VE2RXY-R


i made this Object



gervais



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De : ui-view@... <ui-view@...> de la part de Keith VE7GDH ve7gdh@... [ui-view] <ui-view@...>
Envoy� : 10 ao鹴 2018 13:16
� : ui-view@...
Objet : Re: [UI-View] overlays??



Gervais VE2CKN wrote...

what software should I use to open,edit the files???

If you were creating or editing an overlay file, any text editor will do
the job. I use EditPad, but Notepad will do the job. You could even use
a word processor as long as it is capable of saving a file in plain text
format. Overlay files are stored in a folder below UI-View named OVERLAYS.

However, if you are creating objects, just click on the map where the
object needs to be displayed and then hit F5. You can name it
(IDENTIFIER - I would use the repeater callsign followed by -R for
repeater) and fine-tune the lat-long. If you want to make the objects
really useful, enter something like the following in the comment field.
That way, users of radios like Yaesu's FTM-400 (and the older FTM-350)
and Kenwood's TM-D710 and their TH-D72 HT can use the QSY or TUNE
function to automatically QSY to the repeaters frequency, along with the
correct tone and offset. Note the format... no space between the
frequency ad the MHz. C088 would be CTCSS 88.5 Hz. T088 would be Tone
only. The decimal part of the CTCSS frequency is omitted. +060 is the
600 kHz offset. The "SaltSpringIsland" is just useful information.

147.320MHz C088 +060 SaltSpringIsland

--
73 Keith VE7GDH

On 8/10/2018 11:44 AM, Gervais Fillion ve2ckn2@... [ui-view] wrote:

Bonjour Keith

what software should i use to open,edit the files???


i can not answer quickly,we are in repair on the house here and working outside during our summer.


thanks as always a good man keith


gervais

Unlike oveerlays, you do not need to open any files or use external programs for objects.聽聽 Object creation and use is handled inside UIview.

With the main screen of UIview open, press "F5" to get the object dialog.聽 Then press "F1" to get the help system details on creating and using objects.聽聽聽聽聽 The information that needs to be entered is very much the same as you do for your own station.

-Latitude聽聽 in DD MM.mm format
-Longitude in DDD MM.mm format
-Name of the object (can be up to 9 letters/.numbers)聽 I.e. the same maximum length as a ham call with
聽with SSID聽聽 Example:聽 "ARROW-2M"
-Symbol desired - Usually the tower icon for a repeater
-Comment String聽聽 Example:聽聽 "146.960MHz T100 -060 Net Mon 8PM w8rp.org Arrow Club"

Note that the latitude/longitude can be determined two ways:
o聽聽 Go to the location and determine it with a GPS device (or determine it from an external electronic or paper map).
o 聽 If the map INSIDE UIview has sufficient detail and covers the location of the object, just double-click the location before opening the F5 editor.聽 The last-clicked location will already be filled into the object-create form. 聽 [This works especially well with the Precision Mapping Server.聽 You can scroll and zoom for a very close-up and precise view of the object location, before clicking.]

______________________________________________________________

Stephen H. Smith聽聽聽 wa8lmf (at) aol.com
Skype:聽聽聽聽聽聽聽 WA8LMF
EchoLink:聽 Node #聽 14400聽 [Think bottom of the 2-meter band]
Home Page:聽聽聽聽聽聽聽聽聽

Live Off-The-Air APRS Activity Maps
聽聽 <>

Long-Range APRS on 30 Meters HF
聽聽 <>

Keith 鈥� OMG, do you know how many of your nuggets of knowledge I have saved from your posts. From just watching the stream go by 鈥� thank you!



Kevin W.

KD7DFV



From: ui-view@... [mailto:ui-view@...]
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2018 10:17 AM
To: ui-view@...
Subject: Re: [UI-View] overlays??





Gervais VE2CKN wrote...

what software should I use to open,edit the files???

If you were creating or editing an overlay file, any text editor will do
the job. I use EditPad, but Notepad will do the job. You could even use
a word processor as long as it is capable of saving a file in plain text
format. Overlay files are stored in a folder below UI-View named OVERLAYS.

However, if you are creating objects, just click on the map where the
object needs to be displayed and then hit F5. You can name it
(IDENTIFIER - I would use the repeater callsign followed by -R for
repeater) and fine-tune the lat-long. If you want to make the objects
really useful, enter something like the following in the comment field.
That way, users of radios like Yaesu's FTM-400 (and the older FTM-350)
and Kenwood's TM-D710 and their TH-D72 HT can use the QSY or TUNE
function to automatically QSY to the repeaters frequency, along with the
correct tone and offset. Note the format... no space between the
frequency ad the MHz. C088 would be CTCSS 88.5 Hz. T088 would be Tone
only. The decimal part of the CTCSS frequency is omitted. +060 is the
600 kHz offset. The "SaltSpringIsland" is just useful information.

147.320MHz C088 +060 SaltSpringIsland

--
73 Keith VE7GDH





[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Gervais VE2CKN wrote...

what software should I use to open,edit the files???

If you were creating or editing an overlay file, any text editor will do the job. I use EditPad, but Notepad will do the job. You could even use a word processor as long as it is capable of saving a file in plain text format. Overlay files are stored in a folder below UI-View named OVERLAYS.

However, if you are creating objects, just click on the map where the object needs to be displayed and then hit F5. You can name it (IDENTIFIER - I would use the repeater callsign followed by -R for repeater) and fine-tune the lat-long. If you want to make the objects really useful, enter something like the following in the comment field. That way, users of radios like Yaesu's FTM-400 (and the older FTM-350) and Kenwood's TM-D710 and their TH-D72 HT can use the QSY or TUNE function to automatically QSY to the repeaters frequency, along with the correct tone and offset. Note the format... no space between the frequency ad the MHz. C088 would be CTCSS 88.5 Hz. T088 would be Tone only. The decimal part of the CTCSS frequency is omitted. +060 is the 600 kHz offset. The "SaltSpringIsland" is just useful information.

147.320MHz C088 +060 SaltSpringIsland

--
73 Keith VE7GDH

yes stephen

i will go for the Object,that is what i need


thanks

gervais



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De : ui-view@... <ui-view@...> de la part de 'Stephen H. Smith' wa8lmf@... [ui-view] <ui-view@...>
Envoy� : 9 ao鹴 2018 17:21
� : ui-view@...
Objet : Re: [UI-View] overlays??



On 8/9/2018 5:05 PM, Gervais Fillion ve2ckn2@... [ui-view] wrote:

i want too add some repeaters objects on my region of Quebec AND if i can
broadcast these objects over here and the internet so visitors and folks
around would know where the Echolink nodes and repeaters are.


gervais

Then you DON'T want any kind of overlays at all! Overlays DO NOT get
transmitted or gated to the Internet all. They ONLY show on your own map.
The only way overlays could ever be seen by other people is by doing screen
captures of the UIview screen for the UI-Webserver built into UIview. You
can see this effect here on my webserver:

<>

The overlays are the names on the map with grey backgrounds.

If you want to beacon these points of interest over RF or the Internet, you
need to create normal APRS OBJECTS by hitting F5 in UIview.

__________________________________________________________

Stephen H. Smith wa8lmf (at) aol.com
Skype: WA8LMF
EchoLink: Node # 14400 [Think bottom of the 2-meter band]
Home Page:

Live Off-The-Air APRS Activity Maps
<>

Long-Range APRS on 30 Meters HF
<>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

yes

the Object will be an alternative .

i will need to know their position and the permission of the owner to send their icone on the air .


thanks for your help


gervais



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De : ui-view@... <ui-view@...> de la part de Keith VE7GDH ve7gdh@... [ui-view] <ui-view@...>
Envoy� : 9 ao鹴 2018 17:59
� : ui-view@...
Objet : Re: [UI-View] overlays??



Gervais VE2CKN wrote...

I want too add some repeaters objects on my region of Quebec..

As Stephen mentioned, you would use an object for that in UI-View, not
an overlay file. The latter would only show up in your own map. However,
keep in mind that someone else can "take over" an object. Objects
created in UI-View go out using the path set in the station setup, so
you don't really want to spread repeater objects to areas far away from
their normal coverage. While you could use objects, you might be better
off using the TNC in the APRS digipeater closest to the repeater to
generate the object and send it out with no path at all. If the digi was
right at the repeater site, the area where the object would reach would
be almost the same as the repeater coverage area.

--
73 Keith VE7GDH
"I might be lost, but I know exactly where I am!"

Bonjour Keith

what software should i use to open,edit the files???


i can not answer quickly,we are in repair on the house here and working outside during our summer.


thanks as always a good man keith


gervais




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Envoy� : 9 ao鹴 2018 17:49
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Objet : Re: [UI-View] overlays??



Gervais VE2CKN wrote...

looking for overlay files...

From the help...

Overlay files consist of lists of items with their location and an
optional status text line. When you open an overlay file, the items it
contains appear on your maps, very much like stations, and can be listed
by using "Lists", "Overlays".

You can simply create your own overlay file with a text editor. You just
need a name and a lat / long. The "beacon comment" and "status text" are
optional. Here are a couple of examples of an entries in an overlay
file. The names in the list are a maximum of 9 characters.

MiddleIsl!4140.88N/08240.93W/South Point of Middle Island
MiddleIsl>Southern-most point in Canada
PtPelee!4154.09N/08230.32W/
PtPelee>southern-most point of mainland Canada

--
73 Keith VE7GDH
"I may be lost, but I know exactly where I am!"




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Gervais VE2CKN wrote...

I want too add some repeaters objects on my region of Quebec..

As Stephen mentioned, you would use an object for that in UI-View, not an overlay file. The latter would only show up in your own map. However, keep in mind that someone else can "take over" an object. Objects created in UI-View go out using the path set in the station setup, so you don't really want to spread repeater objects to areas far away from their normal coverage. While you could use objects, you might be better off using the TNC in the APRS digipeater closest to the repeater to generate the object and send it out with no path at all. If the digi was right at the repeater site, the area where the object would reach would be almost the same as the repeater coverage area.

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73 Keith VE7GDH
"I might be lost, but I know exactly where I am!"

Gervais VE2CKN wrote...

looking for overlay files...

From the help...

Overlay files consist of lists of items with their location and an optional status text line. When you open an overlay file, the items it contains appear on your maps, very much like stations, and can be listed by using "Lists", "Overlays".

You can simply create your own overlay file with a text editor. You just need a name and a lat / long. The "beacon comment" and "status text" are optional. Here are a couple of examples of an entries in an overlay file. The names in the list are a maximum of 9 characters.

MiddleIsl!4140.88N/08240.93W/South Point of Middle Island
MiddleIsl>Southern-most point in Canada
PtPelee!4154.09N/08230.32W/
PtPelee>southern-most point of mainland Canada

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73 Keith VE7GDH
"I may be lost, but I know exactly where I am!"

On 8/9/2018 5:05 PM, Gervais Fillion ve2ckn2@... [ui-view] wrote:

i want too add some repeaters objects on my region of Quebec AND if i can
broadcast these objects over here and the internet so visitors and folks
around would know where the Echolink nodes and repeaters are.


gervais

Then you DON'T want any kind of overlays at all!聽聽聽聽 Overlays DO NOT get
transmitted or gated to the Internet all.聽聽 They ONLY show on your own map.聽
The only way overlays could ever be seen by other people is by doing screen
captures of the UIview screen for the UI-Webserver built into UIview.聽聽聽 You
can see this effect here on my webserver:

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The overlays are the names on the map with grey backgrounds.


If you want to beacon these points of interest over RF or the Internet, you
need to create normal APRS聽聽 OBJECTS 聽 by hitting F5 in UIview.


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i want too add some repeaters objects on my region of Quebec AND if i can broadcast these objects over here and the internet so visitors and folks around would know where the Echolink nodes and repeaters are.


gervais



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Objet : Re: [UI-View] overlays??

On 8/8/2018 10:00 PM, Gervais Fillion ve2ckn2@... [ui-view] wrote:

hi all

looking for overlay files,

would you know a site where i could download some??

thanks in advance

gervais

ve2ckn

What are you trying to do with overlays?

There are two completely different things called "overlays" in UIview:

锟� -锟� The ones native to UIview that are loaded with "Action", "Overlays..."
?锟斤拷锟� These are exactly like APRS objects, except that they show ONLY on your
own map and no-one else's.锟� They are point objects that show on top of the map,
and work with any kind of map in UIview.锟� They are produced by making a simple
text file placed in the &#92;OVERLAYS folder under the main UIview folder.

Here is an example.锟斤拷 This one makes several ham fest locations and repeaters
around the state of Michigan appear on any map of the area. It also makes the
old and new锟� locations of the Dayton Hamvention appear on maps that cover that
area.锟� The format is exactly the same as for an over-the-air APRS object,
except that they never leave your own computer.

* MI Hamfests and POIs
MI-ARRL!4419.61N/08355.44W;
MIDLAND!4336.16N/08411.21W/
MONROE!4155.92N/08327.71W/
锟给濒诲贬础搁础!3949.31狈/08415.48奥/
Hamvent!3941.87N/08356.21W/
GL-HamCON!4204.04N/08414.52W/
145.39LAN!4239.05N/08442.64Wr/..PL100 Lansing LCDRA Repeater
442.90MSU!4243.48N/08428.81Wr/..PL107 MSU ARC Rptr & Echolink
GMARCswap!4239.66N/08302.05W/
GMARCswap>GM ARC Trunkswap
UFCWswaps!4230.99N/08306.75W/
UFCWswaps>U
Kalamazoo!4216.70N/08532.61W/
Kalamazoo>Kalamazoo Expo Center



锟� -锟� Then there are two kinds that only work with the Precision Mapping Server
for Uview.锟� (The functions are built-into the Pmap Server rather than UIview
itself.)锟斤拷锟斤拷锟斤拷锟� "UNDERlays" are bitmap pictures (usually aerial photos, scans
of topo maps, or weather radar images) that cover an area rather than a single
point.锟� They appear UNDER the roads on the base Precision Mapping map.锟斤拷锟斤拷锟斤拷
Then there are "OVERlays". These are CAD drawing objects that let you add
points of interest or missing roads to maps.锟� Or highlight things like parade
and marathon routes, outline search areas, etc ON TOP OF the base Precision
Mapping map.锟斤拷 You can load more than one layer of these markups on top of the
base map at the same time. 锟斤拷 This is similar to the multiple layers in vector
drawing programs like AutoCAD, Adobe Illustrator, Corel Draw, ArcView, etc.

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What kind of overlay are you referring to?






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