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Re: Service advice for MTT4BT PCB version 1.8
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That right there is Excellent Customer Service¡ Well done Allen¡Well Done!! 73, Danny NF4J? Sent using the mobile mail app On 1/20/23 at 6:39 PM, vhsproducts via groups.io wrote:
From: "vhsproducts via groups.io" <vhsproducts@...>
Date: January 20, 2023 To: "ralph@..." <ralph@...>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Cc: Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] Service advice for MTT4BT PCB version 1.8 Ralph,
There are lots of diodes in an MTT4BT. Two of them are Schottky polarity protection diodes, including D6. If D6 was burned out, the unit would not have power to the amplifier section, and would have virtually no power output during transmissions. If Diode D6 looks like it has been toasted, it is because the transmitter latched on for an extended period. This is generally due to high SWR causing the unit to lock up. If you have the higher power MTT4BT, the MTT4BT-40, a toasted diode is more likely. If you would like to send me your mailing address offline ( allen@...) I will be happy to send you a bunch of diodes, but it would probably be best for you to send me your unit to test and evaluate.
Yes, we have dropped the MTT4BT and its big brother, the MTT4BT-40. This is due to severe parts shortages, apparently caused by some kind of bug allegedly going around. Or maybe global warming...or bugs...I can't keep it straight anymore. FYI,? there is no 12 Volt Regulator in the MTT4BT, but if you send me your email address, I can probably dig up a clearer copy of the schematic for you. Sadly, what I know about operating a Peet Brothers Wx Station with a TT4-based product can safely be written on a matchbook with a crayon.
73,
Allen AF6OF -----Original Message-----
From: Ralph Simons <ralph@...> To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, Jan 20, 2023 2:39 pm Subject: [TinyTrak] Service advice for MTT4BT PCB version 1.8 Hi folks,
Helping a local ham club (W1BST) troubleshoot their weather station (Peet Brothers Ultimeter 100) hooked to the Byonics MTT4BT. We noticed erratic operation, but programmability is fine. Upon further inspection we found a burned diode. It's labeled D6 on the silk screen, and according to the schematic in the manual (very hard to read/low resolution), I think it feeds the 12 V regulator U6, which I can't find, unless it's under the microassembly near U5, which is labeled. The PCB diagram in the manual is no help, no reference designators and it appears to be the wrong board, or an earlier version.? Anyway, if I'm reading the manual schematic correctly, I believe D6 and D7 are there to protect from reverse polarity being applied to the inputs, not sure what else. The failure mode? The unit worked well for over a year. The club recently rewired the shack and was chasing ground loops in the station. At some point in the process we noticed that the MTT4BT only powered up when the unit was grounded through the antenna, whatever that means! Then we noticed the burned diode. Now my questions: 1. Is there a service contact for these boards? What are the arrangements, costs etc? 2. I see the Byonics web site says they are out of stock on these boards. Is there a similar replacement? 3. Where does one procure SMT diodes? And what would I specify? What is the part number? Are they available from Byonics? In any case, please confirm that this is a reverse protection diode and could be jumpered out. Also, a good schematic would be helpful. Thanks all. I've really enjoyed getting to know APRS and this application and look forward to a solution. Ralph Simons KC1RWK |
Re: Service advice for MTT4BT PCB version 1.8
Ralph,
There are lots of diodes in an MTT4BT. Two of them are Schottky polarity protection diodes, including D6. If D6 was burned out, the unit would not have power to the amplifier section, and would have virtually no power output during transmissions. If Diode D6 looks like it has been toasted, it is because the transmitter latched on for an extended period. This is generally due to high SWR causing the unit to lock up. If you have the higher power MTT4BT, the MTT4BT-40, a toasted diode is more likely. If you would like to send me your mailing address offline ( allen@...) I will be happy to send you a bunch of diodes, but it would probably be best for you to send me your unit to test and evaluate.
Yes, we have dropped the MTT4BT and its big brother, the MTT4BT-40. This is due to severe parts shortages, apparently caused by some kind of bug allegedly going around. Or maybe global warming...or bugs...I can't keep it straight anymore. FYI,? there is no 12 Volt Regulator in the MTT4BT, but if you send me your email address, I can probably dig up a clearer copy of the schematic for you. Sadly, what I know about operating a Peet Brothers Wx Station with a TT4-based product can safely be written on a matchbook with a crayon.
73,
Allen AF6OF -----Original Message-----
From: Ralph Simons <ralph@...> To: [email protected] Sent: Fri, Jan 20, 2023 2:39 pm Subject: [TinyTrak] Service advice for MTT4BT PCB version 1.8 Hi folks,
Helping a local ham club (W1BST) troubleshoot their weather station (Peet Brothers Ultimeter 100) hooked to the Byonics MTT4BT. We noticed erratic operation, but programmability is fine. Upon further inspection we found a burned diode. It's labeled D6 on the silk screen, and according to the schematic in the manual (very hard to read/low resolution), I think it feeds the 12 V regulator U6, which I can't find, unless it's under the microassembly near U5, which is labeled. The PCB diagram in the manual is no help, no reference designators and it appears to be the wrong board, or an earlier version.? Anyway, if I'm reading the manual schematic correctly, I believe D6 and D7 are there to protect from reverse polarity being applied to the inputs, not sure what else. The failure mode? The unit worked well for over a year. The club recently rewired the shack and was chasing ground loops in the station. At some point in the process we noticed that the MTT4BT only powered up when the unit was grounded through the antenna, whatever that means! Then we noticed the burned diode. Now my questions: 1. Is there a service contact for these boards? What are the arrangements, costs etc? 2. I see the Byonics web site says they are out of stock on these boards. Is there a similar replacement? 3. Where does one procure SMT diodes? And what would I specify? What is the part number? Are they available from Byonics? In any case, please confirm that this is a reverse protection diode and could be jumpered out. Also, a good schematic would be helpful. Thanks all. I've really enjoyed getting to know APRS and this application and look forward to a solution. Ralph Simons KC1RWK |
Service advice for MTT4BT PCB version 1.8
Hi folks,
Helping a local ham club (W1BST) troubleshoot their weather station (Peet Brothers Ultimeter 100) hooked to the Byonics MTT4BT. We noticed erratic operation, but programmability is fine. Upon further inspection we found a burned diode. It's labeled D6 on the silk screen, and according to the schematic in the manual (very hard to read/low resolution), I think it feeds the 12 V regulator U6, which I can't find, unless it's under the microassembly near U5, which is labeled. The PCB diagram in the manual is no help, no reference designators and it appears to be the wrong board, or an earlier version.? Anyway, if I'm reading the manual schematic correctly, I believe D6 and D7 are there to protect from reverse polarity being applied to the inputs, not sure what else. The failure mode? The unit worked well for over a year. The club recently rewired the shack and was chasing ground loops in the station. At some point in the process we noticed that the MTT4BT only powered up when the unit was grounded through the antenna, whatever that means! Then we noticed the burned diode. Now my questions: 1. Is there a service contact for these boards? What are the arrangements, costs etc? 2. I see the Byonics web site says they are out of stock on these boards. Is there a similar replacement? 3. Where does one procure SMT diodes? And what would I specify? What is the part number? Are they available from Byonics? In any case, please confirm that this is a reverse protection diode and could be jumpered out. Also, a good schematic would be helpful. Thanks all. I've really enjoyed getting to know APRS and this application and look forward to a solution. Ralph Simons KC1RWK |
Re: Not recieving packets when car is on
Do you have a sdr to try operating in car to try and find the noise source?? you try a external battery?? Might try any of the sound modems on extra pc or raspberry, might also help your situation, but at minimal having a second tnc around helps diagnose the first! You can plug in a laptop mic to the speaker of the radio for example to have two tnc devices quickly to test with (could even use the same radio!) kelly? |
Re: Not recieving packets when car is on
Wanted to let you guys know that I think I took care of most of the issues. It looks like the audio needed to be adjusted. I followed F4FXL's instructions and adjusted the incoming audio levels with a scope. I am not getting much better decode rates and after adjusting tx audio, better encode. I still see a noticeable drop in decode when the engine is on but that must be a ground loop or other rf issue to tackle. Thanks for the help!? ? Noah KE5VQL |
Re: Davis WX
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I am not sure what your expectations are.? The APRS-IS will only keep the first heard instance of a packet.? If the station yor WX station is connecred to us also connected to the internet, no RF packet will show on aprs.fi. |
Re: Davis WX
I am not sure what your expectations are.? The APRS-IS will only keep the first heard instance of a packet.? If the station yor WX station is connecred to us also connected to the internet, no RF packet will show on aprs.fi.
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That doesn't mean it dud not get transmitted over RF, just that it didn't reach the internet via RF first. Rob KB8RCO
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Re: Davis WX
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýRob, my weather shows up on APRS.FI, But it gets there via the
internet. This is how it shows up:
?I am using Davis Weatherlink 6.0.5. There is a APRS setup page.
My Tinytrak3Plus will not except the Tiny pack v1.4. I guessing
the chip is the problem there. I will keep on working on it to go out as RF one way or another. Bruce WA1YZN
On 12/27/2022 10:17, Rob Giuliano via
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Re: Weather information
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýI also have a TM-V71 along with the Davis Vantage Vue, I have my stationed for WINLINK and VARA HF and FM, every Sunday evening we have our SKYWARN net, all I do is look at the inside station and compose a weather message and send it off via VARA FM, I did have to replace my SignaLink with a Masters communications replacement unit, the SignaLink was an older model. ? 73 John K2IZ ? Sent from for Windows ? From: Bruce Bohannon WA1YZN
Sent: Thursday, December 29, 2022 4:38 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [TinyTrak] Weather information ? Hello, I have a Kenwood TM-V71 and I would like to transmit wx
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Weather information
Hello, I have a Kenwood TM-V71 and I would like to transmit wx information over the APRS network via RF, from a Davis Vantage Pro2 that is a year old. I would like to use? a Tinytrak3Plus. I have the data logger, both USB and serial.? Can someone tell me how they do it? I also have a Kenwood DM-710 that I could use instead on the V71. I have a a Tiny Trak3Plus with the TinyPack v0.1 loaded in the TinyTrak3Plus and I also have a regular Tinytrak3plus for APRS use.? I did see something about a WXTrax on a TinyTrak4Plus.
?I tried for information on another chat box. I did get a lot of information on how to use a do it using a Rasberry Pi and other stuff. I scrolled through some prior posts but may have missed what I was looking for. Thanks in advance for any information, Bruce WA1YZN |
Re: Davis WX
I use a TT4 with a TM-V71 for APRS location.? It is hooked into the 6pin din on the back of the V71 via a Byonics M12P cable.? Cable also works with TT3+.? Some tweaking of V71 settings for that port were required.? I have the A channel for voice and the B channel for APRS.? Unit is a few hundred miles away in storage so don't have the settings at hand. On Tue, Dec 27, 2022 at 7:43 AM Bruce Bohannon WA1YZN <ham.bo@...> wrote: Hello, I have a Kenwood TM-V71 and I would like to transmit wx |
Re: Davis WX
¿ªÔÆÌåÓýIf you've already got the wx station connected to a computer you can use Cumulus to generate a wxnow.txt file. Then you can use APRS software such as APRSIS32 or Ui-View to send it over rf. And this could kill 2 birds with one stone as you can
setup an igate with APRSIS32 and have gating and message capabilities along with your weather station.?
KB3KBR Greg. Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
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From: "Rob Giuliano via groups.io" <kb8rco@...>
Date: 12/27/22 10:17 (GMT-05:00)
Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] Davis WX
I haven't used a TT3 based tracker in quite some time.
Reading the info on the TinyTrak3 section of Byonics, it says the TinyPack firmware will interface with the Davis Weather Station.? HOWEVER, there is a note at the end of the TinyPack description that says:
?? "Note: Current Davis devices apparantly no longer support APRS."
If they Davis Vantage Pro2 does support APRS, you probably want to upgrade your TT3Plus with TinyPack V1.4 (),
program the non-FA version of the firmware in your TT3Plus, configure it with the
TinyPackConfig v1.4.exe and give it a try.
Interfacing to either radio should be pretty straight forward, but I suggest using the TT3 with the TM-V71 and then monitor it with the DM-710 to make sure it is working.
Robert Giuliano On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 09:43:09 AM EST, Bruce Bohannon WA1YZN <ham.bo@...> wrote:
Hello, I have a Kenwood TM-V71 and I would like to transmit wx
information over the APRS network via RF, from a Davis Vantage Pro2 that
is a year old. I would like to use? a Tinytrak3Plus. I have the data
logger, both USB and serial.? Can someone tell me how they do it?
I also have a Kenwood DM-710 that I could use instead on the V71. I have
a a Tiny Trak3Plus loaded with the TinyPack v0.1. I also have a regular
Tinytrak3plus for general APRS use.? I did see something about a WXTrax
on a TinyTrak4Plus.
?I tried for information on another chat box. I did get a lot of
information on how to use a do it using a Rasberry Pi and other stuff.
I scrolled through all prior posts, but may have missed what I was
looking for.
Thanks in advance for any information,
Bruce WA1YZN
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Re: Davis WX
I haven't used a TT3 based tracker in quite some time. Reading the info on the TinyTrak3 section of Byonics, it says the TinyPack firmware will interface with the Davis Weather Station.? HOWEVER, there is a note at the end of the TinyPack description that says: ?? "Note: Current Davis devices apparantly no longer support APRS." If they Davis Vantage Pro2 does support APRS, you probably want to upgrade your TT3Plus with TinyPack V1.4 (), program the non-FA version of the firmware in your TT3Plus, configure it with the TinyPackConfig v1.4.exe and give it a try. Interfacing to either radio should be pretty straight forward, but I suggest using the TT3 with the TM-V71 and then monitor it with the DM-710 to make sure it is working. Robert Giuliano
On Tuesday, December 27, 2022 at 09:43:09 AM EST, Bruce Bohannon WA1YZN <ham.bo@...> wrote:
Hello, I have a Kenwood TM-V71 and I would like to transmit wx information over the APRS network via RF, from a Davis Vantage Pro2 that is a year old. I would like to use? a Tinytrak3Plus. I have the data logger, both USB and serial.? Can someone tell me how they do it? I also have a Kenwood DM-710 that I could use instead on the V71. I have a a Tiny Trak3Plus loaded with the TinyPack v0.1. I also have a regular Tinytrak3plus for general APRS use.? I did see something about a WXTrax on a TinyTrak4Plus. ?I tried for information on another chat box. I did get a lot of information on how to use a do it using a Rasberry Pi and other stuff. I scrolled through all prior posts, but may have missed what I was looking for. Thanks in advance for any information, Bruce WA1YZN |
Davis WX
Hello, I have a Kenwood TM-V71 and I would like to transmit wx information over the APRS network via RF, from a Davis Vantage Pro2 that is a year old. I would like to use? a Tinytrak3Plus. I have the data logger, both USB and serial.? Can someone tell me how they do it?
I also have a Kenwood DM-710 that I could use instead on the V71. I have a a Tiny Trak3Plus loaded with the TinyPack v0.1. I also have a regular Tinytrak3plus for general APRS use.? I did see something about a WXTrax on a TinyTrak4Plus. ?I tried for information on another chat box. I did get a lot of information on how to use a do it using a Rasberry Pi and other stuff. I scrolled through all prior posts, but may have missed what I was looking for. Thanks in advance for any information, Bruce WA1YZN |