Re: Setting up TT4 for tracker
Was the V0.72 (1284) from the Menu? The latest firmware does come in both versions (644 and 1284).
So if it was just an educated guess, the best way to determine which chip is to use TeraTerm. ? At the ? send a b and it will return with TinyTrack4 V1.2b (644) or? TinyTrack4 V1.2c (1284). ? This works with any firmware I have used. I think you get it with Esc 3 times - the firmware and chip on the newer firmware versions is displayed.
On Friday, April 25, 2025 at 05:40:35 PM EDT, Jim Ebner <n8je@...> wrote:
And yes, it¡¯s the V0.72 (1284) ?
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rob Giuliano via groups.io
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Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] Setting up TT4 for tracker ? If by "newer TT4" you mean 1284 chip, the answer would be "not as is". Most likely Byon could recompile it - if he has the code.? But the TT4 already has all that code in the Alpha firmware. All you would need to do is disable the portions of the code that you do not want to use (DIGI, display, ...). ? ?It would still have receive capability, but the information would go no where. Just wondering - is there some reason you don't want to use the Alpha Version?
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Re: Setting up TT4 for tracker
And yes, it¡¯s the V0.72 (1284) ?
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Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] Setting up TT4 for tracker ? If by "newer TT4" you mean 1284 chip, the answer would be "not as is". Most likely Byon could recompile it - if he has the code.? But the TT4 already has all that code in the Alpha firmware. All you would need to do is disable the portions of the code that you do not want to use (DIGI, display, ...). ? ?It would still have receive capability, but the information would go no where. Just wondering - is there some reason you don't want to use the Alpha Version?
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Re: Setting up TT4 for tracker
I was part of the BATA team when he started the TT4 and worked with the tracker program. I still have the old tracker firmware and didn¡¯t know if it would work if I loaded it. I sold my BATA kit that I built but found a TT4 last year at Hamvention with the GPS so I picked it up. I found a harness that I built for my FT-530 and thought I would give it a try again. The one that I picked up was a surface mount V7. I can¡¯t see what chip is installed. The tracker program was easy to setup. ? Jim, N8JE ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Rob Giuliano via groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2025 5:11 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] Setting up TT4 for tracker ? If by "newer TT4" you mean 1284 chip, the answer would be "not as is". Most likely Byon could recompile it - if he has the code.? But the TT4 already has all that code in the Alpha firmware. All you would need to do is disable the portions of the code that you do not want to use (DIGI, display, ...). ? ?It would still have receive capability, but the information would go no where. Just wondering - is there some reason you don't want to use the Alpha Version?
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Re: Setting up TT4 for tracker
If by "newer TT4" you mean 1284 chip, the answer would be "not as is".
Most likely Byon could recompile it - if he has the code.? But the TT4 already has all that code in the Alpha firmware.
All you would need to do is disable the portions of the code that you do not want to use (DIGI, display, ...).
? ?It would still have receive capability, but the information would go no where.
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Just wondering - is there some reason you don't want to use the Alpha Version?
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Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO
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Setting up TT4 for tracker
Years ago, when the TT-4 was just in the bata mode Byron had a tracker firmware (tracker644p.TT4) along with the Alpha firmware. I was wondering if that firmware is still available and if it can be loaded into a newer TT4. If not, I am going to need a little help configuring the firmware for a tracker.?
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Thanks for the assistance,
Jim, N8JE
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Re: TT4 and Windows 11 v24H2
I found that I had to uninstall all the prolific drivers and have windows install the right ones. Everything is working as it should now. ? Jim, N8JE ?
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Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] TT4 and Windows 11 v24H2? Arrrgh, don't leave us hanging.? What was the issue?? You could save a life here!?? Cliff K6CLS ? On April 4, 2025 2:32:37 PM PDT, Jim Ebner <n8je@...> wrote: Sorry for the confusion, I found the issue after I sent this message. All is working now. ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Ebner
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2025 9:29 AM
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Subject: [TinyTrak] TT4 and Windows 11 v24H2 ? I have a TT USB cable and can't find the drivers for the new windows 11 V24H2. Windows update will not find the proper drivers. I already have downloaded and installed?
?-from byonics.com and they don't work. Does anyone know where I can find the updated drivers?
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Re: TT4 and Windows 11 v24H2
Arrrgh, don't leave us hanging.? What was the issue?? You could save a life here!?? Cliff K6CLS
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On April 4, 2025 2:32:37 PM PDT, Jim Ebner <n8je@...> wrote:
Sorry for the confusion, I found the issue after I sent this message. All is working now. ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Ebner
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2025 9:29 AM
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Subject: [TinyTrak] TT4 and Windows 11 v24H2 ? I have a TT USB cable and can't find the drivers for the new windows 11 V24H2. Windows update will not find the proper drivers. I already have downloaded and installed?
?-from byonics.com and they don't work. Does anyone know where I can find the updated drivers?
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Re: TT4 and Windows 11 v24H2
The cable was one from Byron, so I drought it that there is a counterfeit chip in it. ? The problem was that I had too many drivers in my system for the Prolific chip and once I un-install them, it found the right one. ? 73, Jim, N8JE ?
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Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2025 9:26 AM
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Subject: Re: [TinyTrak] TT4 and Windows 11 v24H2 ? Jardy, you keep suggesting that Byon sells cable with counterfeit chips. Do you have something on your mind that you would like to share?? ? Just in case you have a Prolific cable with a fake chip in it, go to and download driver 3.2.0.0. Prolific made it so the newest drivers will not work on the fake chips. 3.2.0.0 is the work around.?
? On Friday, April 4, 2025, 14:32, Jim Ebner <n8je@...> wrote: Sorry for the confusion, I found the issue after I sent this message. All is working now. ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Ebner
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2025 9:29 AM
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Subject: [TinyTrak] TT4 and Windows 11 v24H2 ? I have a TT USB cable and can't find the drivers for the new windows 11 V24H2. Windows update will not find the proper drivers. I already have downloaded and installed?
?-from and they don't work. Does anyone know where I can find the updated drivers?
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Re: TT4 and Windows 11 v24H2
Jardy, you keep suggesting that Byon sells cable with counterfeit chips. Do you have something on your mind that you would like to share??
Allen AF6OF
Just in case you have a Prolific cable with a fake chip in it, go to and download driver 3.2.0.0. Prolific made it so the newest drivers will not work on the fake chips. 3.2.0.0 is the work around.?
On Friday, April 4, 2025, 14:32, Jim Ebner <n8je@...> wrote: Sorry for the confusion, I found the issue after I sent this message. All is working now. ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Ebner
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2025 9:29 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [TinyTrak] TT4 and Windows 11 v24H2 ? I have a TT USB cable and can't find the drivers for the new windows 11 V24H2. Windows update will not find the proper drivers. I already have downloaded and installed?
?-from and they don't work. Does anyone know where I can find the updated drivers?
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Re: TT4 and Windows 11 v24H2
And the problem was????? Jardy Dawson WA7JRD
Message sent by....Nobody cares!!
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On Apr 4, 2025, at 14:32, Jim Ebner <n8je@...> wrote:
? Sorry for the confusion, I found the issue after I sent this message. All is working now. ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Ebner
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2025 9:29 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [TinyTrak] TT4 and Windows 11 v24H2 ? I have a TT USB cable and can't find the drivers for the new windows 11 V24H2. Windows update will not find the proper drivers. I already have downloaded and installed?
?-from byonics.com and they don't work. Does anyone know where I can find the updated drivers?
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Re: TT4 and Windows 11 v24H2
Just in case you have a Prolific cable with a fake chip in it, go to miklor.com and download driver 3.2.0.0. Prolific made it so the newest drivers will not work on the fake chips. 3.2.0.0 is the work around.?
On Friday, April 4, 2025, 14:32, Jim Ebner <n8je@...> wrote: Sorry for the confusion, I found the issue after I sent this message. All is working now. ? From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Ebner
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2025 9:29 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [TinyTrak] TT4 and Windows 11 v24H2 ? I have a TT USB cable and can't find the drivers for the new windows 11 V24H2. Windows update will not find the proper drivers. I already have downloaded and installed?
?-from byonics.com and they don't work. Does anyone know where I can find the updated drivers?
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Re: TT4 and Windows 11 v24H2
Sorry for the confusion, I found the issue after I sent this message. All is working now. ?
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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jim Ebner
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2025 9:29 AM
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Subject: [TinyTrak] TT4 and Windows 11 v24H2 ? I have a TT USB cable and can't find the drivers for the new windows 11 V24H2. Windows update will not find the proper drivers. I already have downloaded and installed?
?-from byonics.com and they don't work. Does anyone know where I can find the updated drivers?
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I have a TT USB cable and can't find the drivers for the new windows 11 V24H2. Windows update will not find the proper drivers. I already have downloaded and installed?
?-from byonics.com and they don't work. Does anyone know where I can find the updated drivers?
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Thanks,
Jim, N8JE
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FYI, Just a quick look at the newer TT4 showed me that pin 9 IS NOT the reset pin for the SMD chip version, its pin 4.?
Allen AF6OF
Lee,
Looks like you had success - great.
For future reference, what helped?
?? Was it disconnecting at the TT4 connector (J2) instead of the computer USB port?
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? Connecting to thebUSB port causes the computer to do a number of things to setup the COMM port for use.? That means there is a delay before TeraTerm can actually see it.? This can cause you to miss the ?.
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Best solution is to leave the USB connection in for a few seconds before connecting the TT4 at J2.
Some have had success by just hitting ESC a bunch of times when you plug in the TT4.? I suggest leaving the TT4 plugged in method.? The ESC seems to work only "sometimes".
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The third option is the chip reset pin, but that requires opening up the case and "touching pins together".? A bit trickier.
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Glad you got it working!
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Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO
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Lee,
Looks like you had success - great.
For future reference, what helped?
?? Was it disconnecting at the TT4 connector (J2) instead of the computer USB port?
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? Connecting to thebUSB port causes the computer to do a number of things to setup the COMM port for use.? That means there is a delay before TeraTerm can actually see it.? This can cause you to miss the ?.
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Best solution is to leave the USB connection in for a few seconds before connecting the TT4 at J2.
Some have had success by just hitting ESC a bunch of times when you plug in the TT4.? I suggest leaving the TT4 plugged in method.? The ESC seems to work only "sometimes".
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The third option is the chip reset pin, but that requires opening up the case and "touching pins together".? A bit trickier.
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Glad you got it working!
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Robert Giuliano
KB8RCO
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Robert, Yes, but I assumed it was a grammatical anomaly, not a temporal paradox. My hunch is that he is having a very typical connection issue stemming from powering the TT4 with the programming cable. This is that the TT4 is already in its run state before the user has a chance to get into the configuration mode. Providing power to the TT4 through the USB connection but before the computer's connection latency has a chance to get the serial link?running. With the older TT4, things?were easy, you could just connect the TT4 with the USB cable, and pull pin 9 of the Atmega chip down to ground to reset and restart the TT4. I suppose it is still possible for someone with younger eyes to do that with the newer SMD? processor!?
As it stands, I would try disabling the FIFO buffers in the advanced settings of the device driver settings in the device manager, which might solve the latency problem. Or grounding pin 9 to brute force a reset.
73,
Allen AF6OF
Yes,but the pist said "Hello again, I have tera term 5 set to 19200 and the TT4 set for 19200. All I see is a white box in upper left. 73 Lee"
It implied the baud rate was set by Lee.
If you see the ? try to reprogram the chip.? Instructions in theQuickStart guide. On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 15:59, Allen Lord The TT4 always starts at 19200 Baud, irrespective of the PORT setting.?
73,
Allen AF6OF How did you get the TT4 set to 19200?
On Thursday, March 27, 2025 at 04:03:43 PM EDT, Lee Price via <price.lee411= [email protected]> wrote:
Hello again, I have tera term 5 set to 19200 and the TT4 set for 19200. All I see is a white box in upper left. 73 Lee
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Thank you all I got in.?
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I expected to see the "?" on my screen once I unplugged and reinserted my TT4 as stated in the write up.
"Configure the Alpha firmware
The final step is to configure the TinyTrak4 with your desired options. Start the terminal emulation
software, set for the proper COM port, set the baud rate to 19200 and turn off flow control. Then cycle
power to the TT4 by disconnecting and reconnecting the TT USB from the TinyTrak4 J2 port, and the
terminal should display:
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Press ESC 3 times to enter TT4 Options Menu
When you see this, press the ESC key 3 times quickly within about one second, and you should see:
Byonics TinyTrak4 Alpha v0.72 (1284)
Options Menu
:? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? "
All I saw, and may have missed the "?", was a white square until I was into the unit and could see my setting. I hope to connect everything, ( power, Radio, GPS, and TT4) this weekend, Sunday likely and then look on APRS.FI and know it is working as planned.
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Thank you all for your input and I am sure I shall return for more wisdom. 73 Lee
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Yes,but the pist said "Hello again, I have tera term 5 set to 19200 and the TT4 set for 19200. All I see is a white box in upper left. 73 Lee"
It implied the baud rate was set by Lee.
If you see the ? try to reprogram the chip.? Instructions in theQuickStart guide.
On Thu, Mar 27, 2025 at 15:59, Allen Lord <allen@...> wrote: The TT4 always starts at 19200 Baud, irrespective of the PORT setting.?
73,
Allen AF6OF How did you get the TT4 set to 19200?
On Thursday, March 27, 2025 at 04:03:43 PM EDT, Lee Price via <price.lee411= [email protected]> wrote:
Hello again, I have tera term 5 set to 19200 and the TT4 set for 19200. All I see is a white box in upper left. 73 Lee
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The TT4 always starts at 19200 Baud, irrespective of the PORT setting.?
73,
Allen AF6OF
How did you get the TT4 set to 19200?
On Thursday, March 27, 2025 at 04:03:43 PM EDT, Lee Price via <price.lee411= [email protected]> wrote:
Hello again, I have tera term 5 set to 19200 and the TT4 set for 19200. All I see is a white box in upper left. 73 Lee
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I thought it was 19200 out of box. I read something wrong? I am reading this from website.
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The final step is to configure the TinyTrak4 with your desired options. Start the terminal emulation
software, set for the proper COM port, set the baud rate to 19200 and turn off flow control. Then cycle
power to the TT4 by disconnecting and reconnecting the TT USB from the TinyTrak4 J2 port, and the
terminal should display:
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Okay I am in. Never saw a question mark because of white box. Set everything to 19200 in device manager on serial port 3 and tera term 5 in setup.
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Thanks and I hope I can get in again if I want :-) 73 Lee
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Jim Ebner
Cliff Sojourner K6CLS